Sure, just put the thin cone wrench on the inside, use the fat wrench on the locknut.hwttdz said:Ok, so I've got to repack my hubs and I need 2 15mm cone wrenches to pull the hub axle out. Can I use my pedal wrench for one or do I need to get two 15mm cone wrenches?
Is it normal to have to repack bearings after 1500 miles?
Free hot tip of the day: you can even use a metric cresent wrench on the locknut.hwttdz said:Ok, so I've got to repack my hubs and I need 2 15mm cone wrenches to pull the hub axle out. Can I use my pedal wrench for one or do I need to get two 15mm cone wrenches?
Is it normal to have to repack bearings after 1500 miles?
Like the name says, a 'cone wrench' is used for the 'hub cone', any wrench that fits will do for the locknut.hwttdz said:Ok, so I've got to repack my hubs and I need 2 15mm cone wrenches to pull the hub axle out. Can I use my pedal wrench for one or do I need to get two 15mm cone wrenches?
Is it normal to have to repack bearings after 1500 miles?
There are a number of causes to that, grease drying out, water getting in, dirt, etc. If it feels rough, check for pitting on the cones and wear on the bearings. It would still feel rough even if you repack the bearings when there is pitting/wear. Replace the bearings/cones if necessary.hwttdz said:Metric crescent wrench, ha, that's funny, haven't heard that before. On a more serious note it looks like it would be too narrow for a crescent wrench, not that I have any here. The pedal wrench on the other hand is quite narrow and I guess it'll work just fine.
Yeah, they feel pretty rough, which I'm disappointed about. What is the main cause of having to repack the bearings? am I getting water in there? dirt? Would a higher quality wheelset require less maintenance?
What greases can people recommend as good ones for this use. Right now I'm thinking Tri-Flow Synthetic Grease.
NOOOOOOOOOOooooooooo!!e_guevara said:To adjust play in the hubs, you would need two cone wrenches on both cones.
boudreaux said:NOOOOOOOOOOooooooooo!!
Well, the way a clever person does it is just loosen and remove the locknut and cone from one side of the axel(left side in the rear) pull out the axel with the cone and locknut still affixed.Service and repack bearings. Insert axel. Tighten cone to adjust bearing using anything that works to hold locknut/cone on opposite side. Usually fingers work, since you aren't really cranking down on the adjusting cone. Once adjusted,use cone wrench to hold cone and metric cresent wrnch to tighten the locknut....You could use a cone wrench on the opposite side,but you don't really have to.hwttdz said:I'm sorry but that didn't clarify the issue for me any. I wasn't after how to adjust the play in the hubs, but if you'd like to share, I'd be more than willing to listen.
Personally, I do it two wrenches - I find that tightening by hand is usually not that "tight" to my liking. Hey, it works for me...boudreaux said:Well, the way a clever person does it is just loosen and remove the locknut and cone from one side of the axel(left side in the rear) pull out the axel with the cone and locknut still affixed.Service and repack bearings. Insert axel. Tighten cone to adjust bearing using anything that works to hold locknut/cone on opposite side. Usually fingers work, since you aren't really cranking down on the adjusting cone. Once adjusted,use cone wrench to hold cone and metric cresent wrnch to tighten the locknut....You could use a cone wrench on the opposite side,but you don't really have to.
boudreaux said:cranking down on the adjusting cone. Once adjusted,use cone wrench to hold cone and metric cresent wrnch to tighten the locknut....You could use a cone wrench on the opposite side,but you don't really have to.
jasong said:I think a better approach, and as recommended in Barnetts guide, is to use a hub axle vise (or a spare drop out) and adjust the other locknut/cone under simulated pressure of the quick release. Otherwise you'll havetoo much pressure once the QR is closed well. Barnetts recommends being able to feel play in the bearings when the QR is at a 45 degree angle and no play fully closed under recommended closing force.
Weisse Luft said:That is the ideal method. Unfortunately, most hubs do not allow adjustment of the bearings while the wheel is mounted, simulated or
Makes ya wonder how people do this successfully for years with just a cone wrench or two..jasong said:I think a better approach, and as recommended in Barnetts guide, is to use a hub axle vise (or a spare drop out) and adjust the other locknut/cone under simulated pressure of the quick release. Otherwise you'll havetoo much pressure once the QR is closed well. Barnetts recommends being able to feel play in the bearings when the QR is at a 45 degree angle and no play fully closed under recommended closing force.
boudreaux said:Makes ya wunder how people do this sucessfully for years with just a cone wrench or two..
Amazingly enough, I've only read enough of Barnetts to know you don't need it to build and maintain bikes if you know what you are doing.I know people that quote it endlessly and can't find their azz with both hands.jasong said:How are you defining successfully? I'd say those that do this a few times a day definitely have a feel for it and may not need more precision, much like those that have tuned their senses with a torque wrench and don't need it either. The vise method will definitely save time. Barnetts even goes further than one would seem practical or necessary with their sticker add on. You've read his chapter on this?
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