Title pretty much says it all. Getting ready to pick up some tires that'll be used for race days only (can't afford tubulars/rims). Does anyone have any experience with these tires? If so can you post what you think about them?
I found the Records to be too vulnerable to flats and cuts. The Pave is a much better choice. None of this stuff is very durable. You have to weigh the consequences of flatting against the very small benefits of the 40 - 50 grams per wheel you will save with the Veloflex Pave vs. a heavier tire.Max Phillips said:Title pretty much says it all. Getting ready to pick up some tires that'll be used for race days only (can't afford tubulars/rims). Does anyone have any experience with these tires? If so can you post what you think about them?
Max Phillips said:Title pretty much says it all. Getting ready to pick up some tires that'll be used for race days only (can't afford tubulars/rims). Does anyone have any experience with these tires? If so can you post what you think about them?
Save some money and buy a set of the Force/Attack will give you similar handling and performance and last alot longerMax Phillips said:Title pretty much says it all. Getting ready to pick up some tires that'll be used for race days only (can't afford tubulars/rims). Does anyone have any experience with these tires? If so can you post what you think about them?
Wrong. **** rolling resistance. get pro2race or schwalbe ultremo.jcjordan said:Save some money and buy a set of the Force/Attack will give you similar handling and performance and last alot longer
bobbyOCR said:Wrong. **** rolling resistance. get pro2race or schwalbe ultremo.
While I ride on Attack force too for racing, and while they don't puncture,MidBunchLurker said:I've raced with Force/Attacks. Nothing wrong with them and much preferred them over Proraces, which I find lack road feel. I also really enjoy Hutchinson's top-end tyres. If I was shopping for race tyres right now though, GP4000s would go on. (currently riding sponsored Kenda Kalientes, which haven't given any problems)
bobbyOCR said:Wrong. **** rolling resistance. get pro2race or schwalbe ultremo.
bobbyOCR said:While I ride on Attack force too for racing, and while they don't puncture,
http://www.rouesartisanales.com/article-1503651.html
Their rolling resistance data shows that they are pretty poor compared to some other offerings.
The pro2race were listed. They absorbed 15 less watts (apparently) compared to attack/force.jcjordan said:Thanks for the data, strange the the pressure in the tires was so low (100psi) as I normally run 120 in mine.
Pity the pro2race were not listed.
bobbyOCR said:The pro2race were listed. They absorbed 15 less watts (apparently) compared to attack/force.
If you run your tyre pressures at 120psi, I hope you are a big rider r ride on perfectly smooth roads otherwise you are losing speed. 120psi is high and on bad roads, will significantly increase rolling resistance. I run 80/85 psi for training and 95/100 for racing (138lb)
sums it up nicely. I ran 25/30psi in my mtb tyres for racing. I was crazy scared of rock gardens but flew through sand and firetrail.MidBunchLurker said:Higher pressures are only better on nice smooth surfaces (like in this lab test, or those rare smooth roads). The rougher the surface the lower the optimum pressure is.
You can take this to the extreme, eg MTB tyres, where lowest rolling resistances are achieved at very low pressures, and bikers have to balance pinch-flat risk against rolling resistance to find the optimum pressure.
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