Continuous neck problems - do I need a new bike?

Discussion in 'Cycling Equipment' started by kaian, Oct 10, 2005.

  1. kaian

    kaian New Member

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    John M - My Trek WSD uses 650c wheels, not 700c. The top tube is not very sloped. The bike is a good size for me and is set up very conservatively for road riding.

    In regards to chiropractors - my uncle is a chiropractor. I went to him first to get evaluated. Now I know my uncle well and I know he wouldn't feed me B.S. to make money off of me (especially since he told me that if my insurance didn't cover it, he would adjust me at his home for free). His office was a little too far for me to drive, so I took the x-rays he took and switched. The new chiropractor looked at my x-rays and said the same exact thing as my uncle - that the vertebrae in my neck were sticking and instead of bending the way they should, they were staying straight. This makes sense to me because I had a hard time tilting my head back to look up. This would effect biking because of how the head is tilted upward to see while riding. The chiropractic has helped a little. My neck feels more loose and I can bend my neck more.

    The ART is something that I am planning on stopping for sure though - even though the chiropractor was not double-dipping. My insurance company sends me billing statements (what the doctors bill and what is covered). So I know what she's billing. It's pretty cheap considering she spends an average of an hour with me - which is something not a lot of docs do.

    But anyway, I started doing shoulder exercises with therabands on Sunday and today I already notice a difference. I don't feel as stiff or sore. So I'm thinking of visiting a sport med doc, showing them the exercises that I already am aware of and seeing if there's anything else they can add or figure out. I do think that the problem is me, not the bike. I think I may need to improve my posture and strengthen my neck, shoulders and back. MTBing is fine - I have no problems there because I am more upright and also because I don't bike for hours and hours on end when I do it. Road cycling usually involves 2 or more hours - which maybe my upper body muscles aren't ready for. I've also changed up my work station which was part of the problem, too (computer). So...I'm taking everything into account.

    As far as weights - I think I will stick to the therabands for now and focus on all of those stabilizing and smaller muscles. I need to get everything balanced!

    Thanks for all of the ideas and suggestions so far. Please keep them coming if anything new arises.
     


  2. txags92

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    I wasn't aware that one needed funding to have an opinion here? My opinion is exactly that, my opinion, and not a medical diagnosis of the type you provide in the comments quoted below, which I should note were given with no medical evaluation of the OP. I recommended her taking a break from the chiro AND the biking so that she could eliminate all potential causes of the increasing pain, and then add one activity at a time to see which one aggravates it again. Then see a medical specialist who can diagnose any other underlying causes that may also be there. You seem to be the one giving medical diagnoses and treatment advice without a doctor patient relationship, not me. BTW, my unfunded OPINION of chiropractors is derived from having 3 family members and 3 very close friends who ALL went to chiros for minor back and/or neck pain issues and wound up coming away from them after several months of "treatment" much worse than they started. All 6 went to orthopedic sports medicine/back specialists after the chiro, and 5 of 6 were found to have relatively simple problems that were treated in less than 3 visits. The 6th had a ruptured disk that was simply made worse by the "treatment" he recieved at the chiro.

    Are you actually trying to suggest that a chiro knows more about how to treat a back or neck problem than a orthopedic specialist who has years of medical training and specialized education in those specific areas? I think you need to get a grip on reality here. If your only experience with MDs is that they treat every sports problem with pain pills and muscle relaxers, you need to find new doctors. Over the last 20 years I have been to a group of sports medicine specialists for injuries to my foot, ankle, knee, hip, back, ribs, shoulder, hand, and wrist, and have been given pain killers exactly once, and then only a week's worth for a broken rib. In almost every case, they were able to quickly determine the CAUSE of my pain, demonstrate to me why it was happening, and give me exercises or rehab therapy to keep it from coming back again. In only one case was I misdiagnosed, and that was because they were being overly cautious to treat the worst possible cause first. Within about 3 days I told them it wasn't working, we looked at it again, and got the right treatment.

    So where is YOUR training to make this diagnosis over the internet? Have you seen her posture? Have you examined her neck? Have you looked at a medical history to determine that this is a condition the pre-dates her cycling? Saying these kinds of things without that information is irresponsible in my opinion.

    We completely agree on these statements...
     
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    Acknowledging that this thread already has degenerated into a bit of a bumfight, I will anyway add my tuppence. In my experience of musculoskeletal problems that do not fall into the small group of diagnoses that allow for a quick fix, therapists that give the patient the responsibility for their own rehabilitation are successful and those that perform only passive manipulations or stretches in the office, without supplying a strengthening and lengthening programme to the patient, are ultimately unsuccessful.
    It sounds like the OP's original therapist did not provide a regimen for the OP to work on at home and thus it is not surprising that the OP wasn't feeling better.
    It would seem reasonable for the OP to ride only the MTB until things have improved a bit.
     
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    Wow - interesting article. Thanks!

    Yeah, I think I tighten my shoulders when I ride and I think my posture isn't how it should be on or off the bike. I've been working on my posture off the bike, but have been having problems on the bike since I can't see myself and am so used to pushing my shoulders upward.

    In regards to the bickering - I wasn't trying to pin one discipline against the other - just trying to see what has worked for other people so I can get this resolved! I know people who have really benefitted from chiropractic adjustments and I've also heard stories of people never being the same (in a bad way) - it's hard to say. I defintely feel like my neck is better from the chiropractic, but I feel like for the shoulder weakness I need to focus on the root of the problem which I think has to do with weakness. I think I may have overloaded my shoulder muscles before they were ready. My legs were ready to do a century, but my upper body was saying "please just 30 miles!"

    Thanks again to everyone who chimed in. It has been really helpful. I think I found a sports med doc to go to. My primary doc gave me a referral and my insurance will cover it, so...I'll give it a shot!
     
  7. el Ingles

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    good to here it´s a bit better but free weights will go more as the part you need to work is when ( with shoulder muscles ) when your hands are close to your shoulder ( vertical lift ) and thats when a band is softest , at the final part of the exercise your using your arms not the deltoids .
    don´t use much weight to start - a litre bottle of water is as good as anything to start .
     
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