Shimano was producing freewheels before Campag was founded, circa 1922, in a factory - not sponging off his dad and using his workshop space. Liberal freeloaders I tell ya... You should stop rubbing that krystal into your gums in order to get a chemical buzz and concentrate on the facts and get your history right. Shimano were also the first to push the rear wheel bearings where they should be. Indexed gears - that was another 10 year Campag debacle. Syncro - what the hell did that sync with, certainly wasn't anything else on the drive train. "Make levers click, move cable 'this much', gears go "tztztxttztzttztztztztztzztzzztxxttxttxtxtttxzttzztzttz" - Ug, why it no worky Luigi?" Campagnolo - the only company that could increase the number of pieces in a brake by a factor of 3.23x10^79 and make it weigh twice as much and stop in twice the distance. Remember their mountain bike components - no, most people don't remember that epic fail. Thankfully the MTB crowd went off actual performance and not what some 103 year old dude in a bike shop "said" was the best stuff when he was a lad...Originally Posted by CAMPYBOB
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"In recent times after Lance 2005 win, Contador, sastre and three years of Di2 - Evans, Wiggo and Froome. Two years of SssssRAM provided a brief hiccup. Meanwhile Camapag took to selling hyper priced group sets in cardboard display boxes, harking back to times when bikes weighed almost as much as a car and riders brazed their own forks on mountain descents." Doper...Doper...question mark...mysterious transformation...space alien. "If Trek had gone to Di2 a year earlier the the giraffe legged one wouldn't likely have made that fluffed shift on the top of that Col..."
If only they had replaced Andy with Linus...free ponies and 1-speed behind the times cassettes for everyone! "If I was compensating for something with the Camaro I would have had the car painted a deep shiny red. But it's a sleeper, looks like a 350 with added SS stripes (not your favorite SS with swastikkas mind you). A sleeper designed to cruise but provide some serious stomp if needed."
SS/RS or Z28. How's it feel driving driving a vehicle with more nose plow the that experimental aircraft carrier John Deere built? "Krystal - I'll leave the meth to you. The only way I'd consider spending twice the amount for something that worked worse is if it came with an Italian supermodel that was in the first throes of meth addition and put out like a rabbit on heat."
It's "Kristal". "The Prius is ace"
er...no need to apologize.
"- 260,000 and all it's needed is oil changes and a few sets of tires. If the brake rotors weren't scored, they could have easily gone another 260,000. Cruising at 80mph at 44mpg and that reliability - I'll take that any day of the week."
I've had Buicks that did that. Hell, I owned a '66 Rambler American that went 220K withOUT regular oil changes. My 1986 CRX did 47 MPG at 70+ MPH. Is THAT all you Pious offers??? Whoop. Tee. Do.
No wonder you settle for shitmaNO ****. You're easily impressed.
"I'll leave you to drive your truck and have to deal with changing belts, alternators and gear box fluid almost as often as I fill that car up with gas. See, those pesky Japanese folks getting their wiring right again... It took the I-ties at Fiat how many years to catch up?"
The last Honda I owned lifted the head gasket at lower miles than the Government Motors POS it replaced. "I suspect that Tullio would be livid that the lack of innovation from his company and lack of progress in the last few years - but leave it to the folks in the far east to kryogenically revive him from the dead and continue their innovations."
It's 'cryo', with a 'c'. As in Campagnolo. With more carbon in Campy groups, more speeds on tap, two brake options, etc. they lead the pack. And Campy was a racer...not a purveyor of mass-market fishing tackle and low end aluminum bike bits.
The Camaro was a plain Jane 350 with a slush box but now has the ZZ502, FAST EFI 2.0 fuel injection, Muncie 4speed and a Moser Engineering rear axle and diff that's just as stout and almost as sexy as that found on Kristina Vogel. Nose plow - who cares, that's why I have the S2000. Between the push of the Camaro and the tail happy nature of the Honda there's a lot of fun to be had. Maybe I should start racing again and see if I can win me another SCCA regional championship.
CRX - I used to have one of those (well, the 160bhp VTEC del Sol, known elsewhere as the CRX) but you can only seat two in those. It also didn't qualify for free bridge tolls or carpool lane access, the latter meaning I could cruise home at 60+mph rather than potter along in commute traffic for the first 20 miles at ~15 mph. I could also carry more stuff in the back of the Prius than I could in the Jeep Grand Cherokee that we used to have. What a hateful piece of **** that was.
More carbon - Shimano is one of the largest users of carbon fiber in the world. That they produce most of the Dura Ace components from aluminium and produce stiffer cranks, brakes that stop better, wheels that don't dump you on the side of the road like Valverde in last years Tour and cost you the race... You get the idea. There's a reason why the stiffest cranks and some of the lightest cranks aren't made from carbon. More speed - Campag does 12 speeds now? I guess they still need the rider to specify compact/non-compact too rather than have a one-does-all like Dura Ace and other top of the line chainsets like the Cannondale Si-SL's.
I guess you just like paying twice as much for stuff and dealing with the fact that it don't work as good as other, better made, stuff.
Dopers - yeah the previous Campag equipped Tour winners - Pantani, Riis, Ulrich... all clean right? At least Lance was "forced" to stay below 50% and couldn't use JP9/Avgas in his veins like those guys. Indurain - from could just about finish the Prologue to Tour winner trouncing everyone for about 5 minutes in 40 miles. Squeaky clean for sure. LeMond - his fastest rider were on Mavic... after his "Vitamin B" injections in the ass... Delgado - busted for a substance banned by the IOC but not until the end of that month by the UCI. Roche - like most of Carrera - was found to have a history of EPO and blood doping. Hinault intimated that he used transfusion to "maintain" a healthy level - in the same was that Zoetmelke flat out admitted too last year. Fignon admitted to doping. Merckx was busted a million times as was Anquitil and Coppi flat out admitted doping his entire career. Did I miss any Campagnolo rider's Tour victories there?
