DaveB said:Looks good Dutch. I'm thinking of printing the url and carrying some
around on my commute ready to stick under a windscreen wiper when needed.
One thing that might be worth mentioning is the "with all these bike
trails off the road why are you on the road". I was thinking about this
one the other day. You've probably got the stats on the percentage of
the road network dedicated bike trails make up, but I was thinking the
best response is along the lines of:
- this percentage of Melbourne transport is dedicated bike trails
- this precentage is freeways
- saying cyclists should only use bike trails is like saying motorists
should only use freeways, it makes sense to use them when they follow
the route you want, but there are plenty of occasions when they don't,
and even if they do, you still need to travel through suburban streets
to get to them.
DaveB
Euan said:# If cyclists want to use the road, why dont they pay rego like us?
I'd drop point two as I consider it to be irrelevant. Stipulating that
most cyclists pay rego on a car panders to the belief that the roads is
a user pays system. Better to annihilate that argument than fight on
their ground.
Euan said:No argument there, I just don't think that saying most cyclists pay rego
is the correct way to counter that argument as it panders to the users
pay view of the world. My response to such statements:
``The reason that cars are registered to their owners is for the same
reason that firearms are registered to their owners: both are capable of
inflicting death and serious injury to others. Sadly this happens with
such depressing regularity that it has become necessary to instigate
compulsory third party insurance in the form a TAC payment,
approximately 80% of the registration fee. The rest of the fee is
swallowed up in administration costs.
Cyclists do not habitually kill or seriously injure others, therefore
there is no need to implement compulsory third part insurance as that
would discourage cycling and result in even more deaths on the roads due
to more people using cars.''
In conversation it's not quite as pompous as that, I've yet to have
anyone have anything to say in defence of that statement.
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Euan | ~~ _-\<,
Melbourne, Australia | ~ (*)/ (*)
Euan said:In the case of feral cats, tell that to the indigenous wildlife who have
no defense against them. Cute little kitty's a well oiled killing
machine.
Euan said:Cute little kitty's a well oiled killing
machine.
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