accius said:Anyone used this if so is it of any use ?
BikingBrian said:Yep, tried it a few times about 2 years ago. Took it according to the loading schedule and avoided caffeinated drinks during the loading phase in order for it to be effective.....well, I can't say I noticed much, if any, effect (except maybe a placebo effect?? )
So, no, IMO, it doesn't really do much of anything. It's not cheap, either. And, it's completely legal to use....which should tell you something...namely, that it probably doesn't have any perceptible physiological effects, otherwise it would be banned.
Do lots of sprint training instead!
velomanct said:Creatine is more so meant for short bursts as in track racing (kilo, sprints). I believe it has no benefits for endurance athletes.
I've never tried it because I heard it can cause nose bleeds, and I used to be prone to nose bleeds.
Lol, I just remember my brother's friend getting nose bleeds, supposedly from the creatine he was taking. I could be completely off. I probally am, lol.WarrenG said:I can't think of any reason or way that creatine could cause nose bleeds unless the weight bar hits your nose. Breathe out (to reduce the blood pressure) during the concentric effort, right?
WarrenG said:Stuff like this is why people get confused about creatine.
You can go to pubmed and find plenty of studies supporting creatine's use for what it is intended. Creatine is cheap. Less than a few dollars per month. Caffeine need not be avoided during the "loading phase" (which is also unnecessary), but there are conflicting studies about whether caffeine negates the benefits of creatine if caffeine is consumed immediately before, or during the exercise session. Tough to ban something that could be nearly duplicated by consuming lots of food sources of creatine. Maybe they will ban creatine when they also ban Vitamin C.
BikingBrian said:You are correct about food sources of creatine. However, the amounts that are naturally present in foods, ie red meat, are nowhere near the amounts that are typically taken in supplement form.
I have found this to be true for my own personal experiments.acoggan said:The typical Western meat-containing diet provides about 1 g/d of creatine. While research studies have frequently used a "loading dose" of 20 g/d, others have shown that you can achieve the same increase in muscle creatine and creatine phosphate levels by ingesting as little as 2-3 g/d.
Strange.....me either, but that is not typical for me.Meek One said:I always get the upset stomach for the first few days. I did notice a difference in my training when I got off my cycle. I used it mainly for gym gains which I am happy I saw. What's odd is that I haven't lost a single pound since I have been off of it (over 3 weeks).
886014 said:I use it and feel it speeds my recovery.
No, recovery after the session, the next day I feel stronger than when I'm not taking it. I take creatine before, during and after riding. Can't be 100% sure that it's the creatine that helps the recovery, but it's cheap enough and said to be harmless and worst.WarrenG said:Recovery from one sprint to the next?
Try a Google or Pubmed search on "creatine phosphocreatine muscle sprint"
886014 said:No, recovery after the session, the next day I feel stronger than when I'm not taking it. I take creatine before, during and after riding. Can't be 100% sure that it's the creatine that helps the recovery, but it's cheap enough and said to be harmless and worst.
I only know of 2 supplements that I can say I am certain work for me. The first is Glucosamine for my knees, I certainly notice when I am on or off this.
The second is quite weird and came about by accident. Believe it or not it's "Berocca". I'm not sure if it's available world-wide but is essentially just a fizzy tablet high in vitamins B and C. I dropped one into my bottle one day (can't even recall why) and noticed quite a difference that ride. I started experimenting with using it or not (generally by forgetting and the recalling the ride later, so I guess a semi-blind study). Weird I know, but definately works for me.
886014 said:I only know of 2 supplements that I can say I am certain work for me. The first is Glucosamine for my knees, I certainly notice when I am on or off this.
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