CSC Article in Wired magazine



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On 30 Jan 2003 14:31:41 -0800, [email protected] (pal) wrote:

>Adam- Are you riding for a team sponsored by an on-line gambling company? If you are opening fire
>on the MIC, why not also open fire on capitalism and have your sponsor give money to the homeless,
>who you support via cycling, that might have lost their money gambling.

Jesus christ.

Hold on.......

I'm for socialism. I think that ownership of the tremendous productive wealth built up by hundreds
of millions of workers can't remain in the hands of a privileged few.

The capitalist profit system is unplanned and irrational. It's wrecking the world. Improved
technology brings layoffs and poverty, not comfort and lighter work. Booms lead to busts.

The competition for markets produces devastating wars and environmental destruction. Fabulous wealth
alongside deep poverty poisons all human relations, stimulating racism and other blame-the-victim
ideologies.

I know that nothing is secure--not our jobs, our homes, our health care, our pensions, our civil
rights and liberties--as long as capitalism exists. My goal is a society run by the workers, not
just as pawns in a capitalist political game but as collective owners of the social wealth.

This is not a new idea. Karl Marx put socialist ideology on a scientific footing a century and a
half ago. The last hundred years have seen many revolutions--and counter-revolutions--all over the
world. I try to learn from the successes and .the setbacks.

Whew.....now I _really_ feel like a rbr'er!!!!

Scott Johnson "There is nothing, I think, more unfortunate than to have soft, chubby, fat-looking
children who go to watch their school play basketball every Saturday and regard that as their
week's exercise."
- John F. Kennedy, 1962
 
This whole thing reminds me of those stupid comments about the US Olympic Committee and implying
that someone was being crooked with the money when the USOC doesn't have enough money to get the job
done to begin with a tries to finagle everyone into giving stuff for free.

"TritonRider" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >From: Adam Hodges Myerson [email protected]
>
> >Anyone read it?
> >
> >Anyone surprised the CSC is part of the US Military Industrial
Complex, and
> >are basically international security guards/hitmen for the US, and
dirty
> >jobs they need to distance themselves from?
> >
> >Adam
> >
>
> Just read it Adam. I wish there were more sources named because I
can tell you
> for a fact that a lot of it is wrong. There is a lot that is right
also.
> We deployed a ton of the security and support for Bosnia through
Ramstein AB
> and Kaiserslautern. We had several tranportation units hauling ammo
for both
> the army and af in both Bosnia and the gulf. We weren't there during
the gulf
> but a lot of the drivers were. They did work on the aircraft systems
when the
> military guys couldn't get them to work. DynCorps guys role is
overstated,
> there were always a bunch around acting as consultants. Mostly they
sat in
> thier Air Conditioned trailers and drank coffee. They very well could have taken over day to day
> policing now. We DO
NOT have
> the military people to do it. We are stretched so thin it is
incredible. We
> still have troops stuck in Haiti if anyone remembers that. Same for Columbia. The other problem in
> Columbia is that we do not
have the
> aircraft in service for the job. (Not even discussing if we should
be doing it
> in the first place) The AF has kept moving to high tech, high dollar
aircraft
> which are not suited to a lot of roles that they wish would just go
away. They
> have been trying to replace the A-10, and C-130 forever now. The
problem is
> that thier solutions cost more all around and have been less
reliable.
> The truth about the actual condition of the military and what the
pinheads in
> the Pentagon are doing is ugly at best. The problem is no-one in
official
> positions is going to tell you the truth. It's against policy. This privatization scheme is
> nothing but ripping off taxpayers and
funneling
> the money to thier friends. I haven't talked to anyone who actually
depends on
> these services, or provides them that thinks this is a good idea. I
can see the
> Pentagon overstating, and creating false leaks that DynCorp is doing
all this.
> The reasoning would be to claim that they were already doing this
much and it's
> working so now we can privatize the rest. As for the rent a cop security our military uses, it's a
> joke. I'd really like to see someone dig into and expose all this ****
but I'm not
> going to hold my breathe. Bill C
 
[email protected] (Top Sirloin) wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> On 30 Jan 2003 14:31:41 -0800, [email protected] (pal) wrote:
>
> >Adam- Are you riding for a team sponsored by an on-line gambling company? If you are opening fire
> >on the MIC, why not also open fire on capitalism and have your sponsor give money to the
> >homeless, who you support via cycling, that might have lost their money gambling.
>
> Jesus christ.
>
> Hold on.......
>
> I'm for socialism. I think that ownership of the tremendous productive wealth built up by hundreds
> of millions of workers can't remain in the hands of a privileged few.
>
> The capitalist profit system is unplanned and irrational. It's wrecking the world. Improved
> technology brings layoffs and poverty, not comfort and lighter work. Booms lead to busts.
>
> The competition for markets produces devastating wars and environmental destruction. Fabulous
> wealth alongside deep poverty poisons all human relations, stimulating racism and other
> blame-the-victim ideologies.
>
> I know that nothing is secure--not our jobs, our homes, our health care, our pensions, our civil
> rights and liberties--as long as capitalism exists. My goal is a society run by the workers, not
> just as pawns in a capitalist political game but as collective owners of the social wealth.
>
> This is not a new idea. Karl Marx put socialist ideology on a scientific footing a century and a
> half ago. The last hundred years have seen many revolutions--and counter-revolutions--all over the
> world. I try to learn from the successes and .the setbacks.
>
> Whew.....now I _really_ feel like a rbr'er!!!!
>
>
> Scott Johnson "There is nothing, I think, more unfortunate than to have soft, chubby,
> fat-looking children who go to watch their school play basketball every Saturday and regard that
> as their week's exercise."
> - John F. Kennedy, 1962

Surely, you jest. Please tell me this is just a troll...
 
On 31 Jan 2003 10:20:24 -0800, [email protected] (Scott Hendricks) wrote:

>Surely, you jest. Please tell me this is just a troll...

Everyone in this newsgroup is a troll.

--
Scott Johnson "Good luck, fat people." -Jamie Woon
 
Top Sirloin wrote:
>
> On 31 Jan 2003 10:20:24 -0800, [email protected] (Scott Hendricks) wrote:
>
> >Surely, you jest. Please tell me this is just a troll...
>
> Everyone in this newsgroup is a troll.

Does that make me a troll feeder for having enjoyed your little rip?
 
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