And of course Once.Grater said:T-Mobile weren't the only team to have a systematic doping operation. With Riis' history, CSC surely had it too and so did Discovery/Us Postal.
Nope, they were the only one ever in the history of mankind to actually ever use drugs. The rest used performance enhancing substances.Grater said:T-Mobile weren't the only team to have a systematic doping operation. With Riis' history, CSC surely had it too and so did Discovery/Us Postal.
Do they taste like soap too?Crankyfeet said:hey..tone down your rhetoric. The point steers away from what's happening and onto your rudeness.
And for those outside of Australia... Weetbix is an Aussie breakfast cereal of compacted wheat flakes in about the size and shape of a small bar of soap.
No, they taste like compacted cardboard - I have no idea how people can eat them.Jeff Vader said:Do they taste like soap too?
besides the fact they rode just as well or better, even without their best talent, bassoEvilJediJ said:What I think everyone is forgetting is that what happened in 2006 and whether or not they had a system wide doping operation MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING as to whether CSC was clean this year
Kurt Arvesen has transformed himself into the new Voigt. Getting in many breaks, ripping it up.Grater said:CSC were not clean this tour.
Cancellara dropping riders on climbs and Voigt aswell day after day. And then Cancellara storming to an average of 51km/h in a 53km time trial a few days later.
There were some super human performances from CSC this tour mainly coming from Cancellara, Voigt and O'Grady.
CSC Clean? My ****.
That's not fair. Schuey and Kohl just learnt the art of fast cadence. Carmichael's and Armstrong's book was only translated into German at the beginning of the year.Grater said:Gerolsteiner I highly doubt if they were clean. They are losing their sponsor and will try anything to get a new sponsor.
guy on bikeradar forums is connected, and ex french pros speak of the funny business at AG2R.Grater said:Silence Lotto were clean - you could tell - especially Popovych.
Columbia were clean - they just dominated the flat stages and with guys like Hansen, Hincapie, Lovkvist, Siutsou, Kirchen who can all time trial there driving it along, who can blame them?
Caisse D'Espagne were clean - look at the performances
Cunego's team were clean. - look at the performances
Milram was clean
Saulnier Duval were not clean.
CSC were not clean
The french teams were clean as they knew the only way they win races is in breakaways.
Gerolsteiner I highly doubt if they were clean. They are losing their sponsor and will try anything to get a new sponsor.
I think "clean" is a relative thing in pro cycling. Some teams are just using more potent products/methods than others.Grater said:Silence Lotto were clean - you could tell - especially Popovych.
Columbia were clean - they just dominated the flat stages and with guys like Hansen, Hincapie, Lovkvist, Siutsou, Kirchen who can all time trial there driving it along, who can blame them?
Caisse D'Espagne were clean - look at the performances
Cunego's team were clean. - look at the performances
Milram was clean
Saulnier Duval were not clean.
CSC were not clean
The french teams were clean as they knew the only way they win races is in breakaways.
Gerolsteiner I highly doubt if they were clean. They are losing their sponsor and will try anything to get a new sponsor.
NOPE....but doesn't a stable hematocrit over three weeks of grueling riding indicate blood manipulation?
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