Curious product lineups, Litespeed division

[mtb Dad]

Off topic to the orignal post, but vis a vis aesthetics, I'm an old
guy who always thought 'level top tube, stem parallel, nice curve to
the fork', was sacred.

But I'm coming around to the semi sloping look, with stem, bar tops,
and brake lever tops all parallel. Not sure why it looks good, but
it's got to feel better than sliding my hands down the cinalli
campione del mundo's to dura ace 7402 levers and crushing my first
knuckle. Still working up to straight forks though. I swear I can
see my steel columbus forks flexing on bumps, which I kinda like, but
I know the engineers say otherwise.

 

[landotter]

On May 9, 10:37 am, mtb Dad <[email protected]> wrote:
> Off topic to the orignal post, but vis a vis aesthetics, I'm an old
> guy who always thought 'level top tube, stem parallel, nice curve to
> the fork', was sacred.
>
> But I'm coming around to the semi sloping look, with stem, bar tops,
> and brake lever tops all parallel. Not sure why it looks good, but
> it's got to feel better than sliding my hands down the cinalli
> campione del mundo's to dura ace 7402 levers and crushing my first
> knuckle. Still working up to straight forks though. I swear I can
> see my steel columbus forks flexing on bumps, which I kinda like, but
> I know the engineers say otherwise.

The curve of the day was just fashion, just one way to get from here
to there. Tire width and pressure is more important to comfort. I used
to have to use gloves and closed cell tape if I ran 23s on a trad road
bike, but I can ride all day with 28s, bare hands, straight forks, and
cloth tape. It's the tires. That and good bar set-up. Gimme something
Nitto that allows me several positions without clenching, and I'm
good. Never could stand Cinelli type bends where the ramps slid you
down towards the hoods. Ech.

 

[John Everett]

On Fri, 9 May 2008 07:51:45 -0700 (PDT), landotter
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On May 9, 9:30 am, John Everett
><[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Thu, 8 May 2008 12:38:24 -0700 (PDT), landotter
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >On May 8, 11:49 am, John Everett
>> ><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >> Form follows cost accounting. It's cheaper to manufacture frames in
>> >> Large, Medium, Small
>>
>> >Walmart bikes come in one size. Stop.
>>
>> >So you're a lying zealot. Congrats.
>>
>> Imagine my distress being called a liar by someone so obviously out of
>> touch. ;-)
>>
>> See:http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5751045
>
>Every single in-store bike at Wal-Mart comes in one size only. That's
>a one-off. Zealot.

Okay, so I'm no longer a liar but I'm still a zealot. I'll accept
that!


--
jeverett3<AT>sbcglobal<DOT>net (John V. Everett)

 

[Camilo]

On May 8, 12:29 pm, [email protected] (Arthur Shapiro) wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Colin Campbell <[email protected]> wrote:
> >I also dislike straight front forks, but apparently I'm badl...
>
> Straying a bit from the original question, but you're not alone.
>
> Probably the three things that shout UGLY to me are: threadless headsets,
> straight forks, and a sloping toptube. Happily my own Habanero has none of
> those aesthetic atrocities. Doubtlessly others could argue to the contrary.
>
> Art

Why the heck would anyone ARGUE about this stuff? Christ, there's a
lot of good bikes out there that are fun to ride!

 

[landotter]

On May 9, 3:38 pm, Camilo <[email protected]> wrote:
> On May 8, 12:29 pm, [email protected] (Arthur Shapiro) wrote:
>
> > In article <[email protected]>, Colin Campbell <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >I also dislike straight front forks, but apparently I'm badl...
>
> > Straying a bit from the original question, but you're not alone.
>
> > Probably the three things that shout UGLY to me are: threadless headsets,
> > straight forks, and a sloping toptube. Happily my own Habanero has none of
> > those aesthetic atrocities. Doubtlessly others could argue to the contrary.
>
> > Art
>
> Why the heck would anyone ARGUE about this stuff? Christ, there's a
> lot of good bikes out there that are fun to ride!

Silence! Or they will coalesce around you with scowly cowls and 7-
stems raised high!

 

[Tom Sherman]

Camilo ? wrote:
> On May 8, 12:29 pm, [email protected] (Arthur Shapiro) wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>, Colin Campbell <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I also dislike straight front forks, but apparently I'm badl...
>> Straying a bit from the original question, but you're not alone.
>>
>> Probably the three things that shout UGLY to me are: threadless headsets,
>> straight forks, and a sloping toptube. Happily my own Habanero has none of
>> those aesthetic atrocities. Doubtlessly others could argue to the contrary.
>>
>> Art
>
> Why the heck would anyone ARGUE about this stuff? Christ, there's a
> lot of good bikes out there that are fun to ride!

You must be new around here. Arguing is FUN!!!

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

 

[Colin Campbell]

Tom Sherman wrote:
> Camilo ? wrote:
>> On May 8, 12:29 pm, [email protected] (Arthur Shapiro) wrote:
>>> In article <[email protected]>, Colin Campbell
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I also dislike straight front forks, but apparently I'm badl...
>>> Straying a bit from the original question, but you're not alone.
>>>
>>> Probably the three things that shout UGLY to me are: threadless
>>> headsets,
>>> straight forks, and a sloping toptube. Happily my own Habanero has
>>> none of
>>> those aesthetic atrocities. Doubtlessly others could argue to the
>>> contrary.
>>>
>>> Art
>>
>> Why the heck would anyone ARGUE about this stuff? Christ, there's a
>> lot of good bikes out there that are fun to ride!
>
> You must be new around here. Arguing is FUN!!!
>

I agree. And a difference of opinion is what makes horse races. If
landotter wants to see things differently from me, it's OK. (His poor
taste will just make my bikes look better if we're ever riding in the
same place at the same time - in my humble, but correct, opinion.)

Just kidding, landotter!

 

[wizardB]

Colin Campbell wrote:
> Tom Sherman wrote:
>> Camilo ? wrote:
>>> On May 8, 12:29 pm, [email protected] (Arthur Shapiro) wrote:
>>>> In article <[email protected]>, Colin
>>>> Campbell <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> I also dislike straight front forks, but apparently I'm badl...
>>>> Straying a bit from the original question, but you're not alone.
>>>>
>>>> Probably the three things that shout UGLY to me are: threadless
>>>> headsets,
>>>> straight forks, and a sloping toptube. Happily my own Habanero has
>>>> none of
>>>> those aesthetic atrocities. Doubtlessly others could argue to the
>>>> contrary.
>>>>
>>>> Art
>>>
>>> Why the heck would anyone ARGUE about this stuff? Christ, there's a
>>> lot of good bikes out there that are fun to ride!

Ride more ***** and argue less!!

 

[Bill Sornson]

wizardB wrote:

> Ride more ***** and argue less!!

POTD.