CX/Commuter wheelset - couple of ?s

Discussion in 'Cycling Equipment' started by Chris, Apr 25, 2004.

  1. Chris

    Chris Guest

    I'm ordering a Surly CrossCheck this week, to be built 2x9,
    and will need a wheelset (shocker -wheels on a bike?!?). The
    bike will be 90% for campus commuting (5-25 miles daily,
    depending what I feel like between classes) over rough
    streets, curbs, grass, light trails, etc. I weigh just under
    190 at 5'10" - with books etc. for school, it's over 200
    easy, but it's okay because it's more muscle than fat. Not
    all muscle, but hell...I tend to ride fast and aggressive,
    but have control and technique - I won't be bottoming out in
    any 6 inch potholes by accident.

    The other 10% of the ridetime will be trail riding. Mostly
    paths/well-packed flat dirt, and never anything crazy
    (yellow loop at Schaeffer Farms will be the worst, if you
    know the trail) because I have a couple of mtbs for "real"
    riding (burn!). But still - there will be off-road riding.

    This will be my road bike, but I'll buy some $99 thing from
    Nashbar for that. Won't see a lot of dedicated "road" miles,
    this bike, but the shop where I used to work keeps inviting
    me along for centuries, and one day I gotta show these old
    people how it's done...

    So my main question is - what do the CXers/commuters/shop
    owners/wheelgods of rec.tech recommend? I do have some
    restrictions, of course: I'm a mountainbiker and damn proud
    of it, so mountain hubs only. No roadie-style rims,
    either...I may be on a bike with drop bars, but I gotta fly
    the flag - this is a Surly bike, and something about French
    rims just doesn't seem right. Cheese eatin' surrender
    monkeys. So, to summarize, first person to recommend
    OpenPros on Ultegra gets shot. All wheel components must be
    available in black, because said color is sort of the motif
    of the bike - everything will be freaking black. It's an
    evil bike, it is (or will be). Above all, I am looking for
    dependability and durability. The wheels must last for
    years - money is tight for college kids. Weight is not a
    primary concern, because I'm neither stupid nor rich, but I
    don't want to be pushing anything ridiculous. Worst of all,
    I have about $200 to spend on the pair. Maybe a little
    more. But not much.

    I have been looking at the Deore hubs/Salsa Delgado wheels
    available in the Quality catalog (even if the nipples are
    silver), but I'm not sure about the Deore hubs longevity (I
    have only put serious mileage on Bontrager hubs. Just a
    coincidence that comes with a couple of Fisher mtbs). How
    long do the Deores last if, say, the bike is chained up
    outside Susquehanna Hall in a thunderstorm? Ridden in snow?
    Also, I don't know if I should trust Quality's "wheelhouse
    whatever" build program.

    My ideal wheels (within reason) right now are black XT
    hubs and black brass nipples on the Salsa Delgados, or
    perhaps WTB Speedmaster 700s. I am leaning toward the
    Salsas because, well, I like Salsa stuff. I have no idea
    what spokes are best suited, but cheap and strong are the
    way to go.

    I know the key to a long-lasting wheel is the build, so I am
    willing to entertain ideas/sales pitches from the wheelgods
    of this group. Email me direct, maybe you'll have a check in
    a few days.

    So there you go...thanks in advance to the group for any
    help. And sorry about the length, but I'm sick to death of
    the "I gonna buy a bike and I need to know is Trek a good
    kind or what about MGX they're only like $50" posts - too
    much info is better than not enough.

    Chris
     
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  2. chris-<< So my main question is - what do the
    CXers/commuters/shop owners/wheelgods of rec.tech recommend?
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    Deore or XT hubset, overhauled when new. Velocity Fusion,
    14/15/3 cross, brass nipps and 36h....

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  3. daveornee

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    Salsa makes good stuff. Velocity Dyad, Bontrager Fairlane (OSB for rear), Ritchey Trekking (rear OSB), Sun Rhyno Lite are all good rim choices. You may need to paint some models to get black.
    Spokes should be double butted DT, Wheelsmith, or Sapim.
    Deore, LX, XT are all good values. I agree with Peter on packing and precision adjusting the cones. They are very well sealed but come with minimal lubrication and cones often are not very well adjusted. Many of the XT models come with stainless steel ball bearings. You should keep the hubs well cleaned/lubed.
    I suggest 36 spokes especially for the rear. You have it correct; the quality of the build is the single biggest issue.
    I can do a set of Bontrager Fairlane with the rear in OSB (offset spoke bed) with black LX hubs, but the rims are silver.
     
  4. Zeeexsixare

    Zeeexsixare Guest

    > I know the key to a long-lasting wheel is the build, so I
    > am willing to entertain ideas/sales pitches from the
    > wheelgods of this group.

    I would go with a Rhyno Lite in the rear, just because it's
    so durable. I have had miles and miles of trouble with a
    crappy rim in the back. Then again, I sometimes descend
    stairs on the road bike for fun.

    Deore hubs are fine - the rubber seals put a little drag on
    the wheel, but I've never seen more than a smidgin of dirt
    inside the seals. Very well sealed and they can spin very
    smooth when adjusted correctly. All of the factory hubs I've
    used have been too tight from the get go, almost like they
    don't expect us to use quick-releases or something.

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    Phil, Squid-in-Training
     
  5. Zeeexsixare

    Zeeexsixare Guest

    > often are not very well adjusted. Many of the XT models
    > come with stainless steel ball bearings. You should keep
    > the hubs well

    Why would you want that? Wouldn't you want harder
    bearings? SS shouldn't matter since the bearings are
    bathed in grease...

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    Phil, Squid-in-Training
     
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