cycle parks in Norwich?

[wafflycat]

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[Jan Wysocki]

On 2006-10-13, wafflycat <w*a*ff£y£cat*@£btco*nn£ect.com> wrote:
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Which starts:
"A green scheme to get more people on their bikes and help to stamp out
crime is being mooted for Norfolk.

The pioneering plan would see a network of hi-tech cycle parks being
established at key locations in and around Norwich, and the network
could spread to other parts of the county if successful.

Cyclists could leave their bikes in complete safety - using smart
card-operated security systems instead of old-fashioned locks and chains
- at places like The Forum, Norwich railway station, the UEA and the
Norfolk and Norwich University Hospital. After London, Norwich would be
only the second city to have a managed cycle park hub." ....and so on


Well, one cheer for now! Two when it's finished and three when it has
run for ten years _after_ winning awards.

I find it ironic that this _Norwich based_ company is already running schemes
elsewhere. As someone who loves riding in and around Norwich I really
hope that this gets approval.. I shall be writing to my councillor.

The cycle hire scheme sounds good. Let's hope they will also be able
to reinstate the late lamented secure cycle parking at the station.
Maybe this modern initiative will also shame the council into removing
the irritating 'heritage' cycle stands.

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[John Kane]

wafflycat wrote:
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Ah the differences in the English language on the other side of the
pond. I was wondering if a cycle park would have different kinds of
trails amongthe trees and flower beds.
John Kane, Kingston ON Canada

 

[Rob Morley]

In article <[email protected]>
John Kane <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> wafflycat wrote:
> > <http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/news/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&category=News&tBrand=edponline&tCategory=news&itemid=NOED12%20Oct%202006%2021%3A42%3A12%3A823>
>
> Ah the differences in the English language on the other side of the
> pond. I was wondering if a cycle park would have different kinds of
> trails amongthe trees and flower beds.
> John Kane, Kingston ON Canada
>
>
I thought the same, and I'm definitely on the right side of the pond.
After all, a skate park isn't somewhere to leave your skates.

 

[David Lloyd]

"Rob Morley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>
> John Kane <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > wafflycat wrote:
> > >
<http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/news/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&category=New
s&tBrand=edponline&tCategory=news&itemid=NOED12%20Oct%202006%2021%3A42%3A12%
3A823>
> >
> > Ah the differences in the English language on the other side of the
> > pond. I was wondering if a cycle park would have different kinds of
> > trails amongthe trees and flower beds.
> > John Kane, Kingston ON Canada
> >
> >
> I thought the same, and I'm definitely on the right side of the pond.
> After all, a skate park isn't somewhere to leave your skates.

But drivers in North America don't lot their cars in a car lot. I wonder how
the verb 'to park' originated.

David Lloyd,
The pub is responsible for my opinions.

 

[Tony Raven]

Rob Morley wrote on 14/10/2006 02:52 +0100:
>
> I thought the same, and I'm definitely on the right side of the pond.
> After all, a skate park isn't somewhere to leave your skates.

But a car park isn't where you go for scenic drives either.


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Tony

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his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
- Leonardo da Vinci

 

[MJ Ray]

"wafflycat" <w*a*ff?y?cat*@?btco*nn?ect.com>
> <http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/news/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&category=News&tBrand=edponline&tCategory=news&itemid=NOED12%20Oct%202006%2021%3A42%3A12%3A823>

Cyclists could leave their bikes in complete safety - using smart
card-operated security systems instead of old-fashioned locks and
chains - at places like The Forum, Norwich railway station, the
UEA and the Norfolk and Norwich University Hospital. After London,
Norwich would be only the second city to have a managed cycle park hub.

Anyone got experience of Sekura-Byk or its Finsbury Park facility?

I'm a bit fearful that this may mean further neglect and decline for the
plentiful parking hoops in the Norwich Lanes area (fairly near the Forum)
and at the UEA while promoting pay-to-park fortresses.

--
MJR/slef

 

[Tony Raven]

David Lloyd wrote on 14/10/2006 08:44 +0100:
>
> But drivers in North America don't lot their cars in a car lot. I wonder how
> the verb 'to park' originated.
>

According to the OED it seems to have started in 1531 when it was first
used as a verb meaning to lodge (park) troops in an encampment. In 1683
park (n) was a military term for a place where artillery, vehicles and
stores were kept. By 1816 it was used as "parking cannons" in a park.
The non-military use first arose in the US in 1846 as in parking wagons.
In 1916 it was first used in the sense of "automobile park". Other
uses such as put aside for a time and to sit down arose through the 1900's

Its origins were from the French "parquer"; to put (animals) in an
enclosure (1380), to fortify (a camp) (1470), to establish oneself in a
strategic position (1488), to set up camp (1495).]

You learn a lot in urc ;-)

Tony

"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
- Leonardo da Vinci

 

[John Hearns]

I've never seen the Finsbury Park facility,
but the report I heard was that it is confusing and not obvious how it
works. The doors are secured using touchpads which you need a smartcard to
open. Many people try to use their Oyster cards, which don't work.
You need a separate card, which you buy from the bike park place.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/cycles/projects/howtouse-cycle-parking.shtml

 

[Simon Brooke]

in message <[email protected]>, Tony Raven
('[email protected]') wrote:

> David Lloyd wrote on 14/10/2006 08:44 +0100:
>>
>> But drivers in North America don't lot their cars in a car lot. I wonder
>> how the verb 'to park' originated.
>
> According to the OED it seems to have started in 1531 when it was first
> used as a verb meaning to lodge (park) troops in an encampment. In 1683
> park (n) was a military term for a place where artillery, vehicles and
> stores were kept. By 1816 it was used as "parking cannons" in a park.
> The non-military use first arose in the US in 1846 as in parking wagons.
> In 1916 it was first used in the sense of "automobile park". Other
> uses such as put aside for a time and to sit down arose through the
> 1900's
>
> Its origins were from the French "parquer"; to put (animals) in an
> enclosure (1380), to fortify (a camp) (1470), to establish oneself in a
> strategic position (1488), to set up camp (1495).]

'Parquet' flooring comes from the same root; a park in the sense of a space
reserved for a specific purpose. The area of a law court reserved for the
judges was in medieval England (and perhaps other places) laid with a
particular pattern of flooring to distinguish it from the places hoi
polloi could sit or stand, and that area was the 'parquet'.

> You learn a lot in urc ;-)

Indeed.

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[Tony Raven]

Simon Brooke wrote on 14/10/2006 12:29 +0100:
>
> 'Parquet' flooring comes from the same root; a park in the sense of a space
> reserved for a specific purpose. The area of a law court reserved for the
> judges was in medieval England (and perhaps other places) laid with a
> particular pattern of flooring to distinguish it from the places hoi
> polloi could sit or stand, and that area was the 'parquet'.
>

The OED disagrees somewhat on the etymology:

French parquet collection of blocks forming a floor (1664; cf. earlier
parquetage PARQUETAGE n.), (as collective noun) the public prosecutors
(1694), the prosecutor's office as a judicial organ (1836; also 1830 in
magistrature de parquet), part of the audience in a theatre seated
between the orchestra and the parterre (a1772), this part of a theatre
(1796), (earlier in Middle French in senses including: part of a
courtroom where the judges sit (1366), place enclosed with branches
where one lures partridges to catch them (1376), small park for
livestock (1525), panel (of an altarpiece, 1398))


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Tony

"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
- Leonardo da Vinci

 

[Simon Brooke]

in message <[email protected]>, Tony Raven
('[email protected]') wrote:

> Simon Brooke wrote on 14/10/2006 12:29 +0100:
>>
>> 'Parquet' flooring comes from the same root; a park in the sense of a
>> space reserved for a specific purpose. The area of a law court reserved
>> for the judges was in medieval England (and perhaps other places) laid
>> with a particular pattern of flooring to distinguish it from the places
>> hoi polloi could sit or stand, and that area was the 'parquet'.
>
> The OED disagrees somewhat on the etymology:
>
> French parquet collection of blocks forming a floor (1664; cf. earlier
> parquetage PARQUETAGE n.), (as collective noun) the public prosecutors
> (1694), the prosecutor's office as a judicial organ (1836; also 1830 in
> magistrature de parquet), part of the audience in a theatre seated
> between the orchestra and the parterre (a1772), this part of a theatre
> (1796), (earlier in Middle French in senses including: part of a
> courtroom where the judges sit (1366),

'Swot I said, innit? The application of the noun to the pattern of blocks
comes from the fact that that pattern was customarily used in
that '...part of a courtroom where the judges sit...'

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