Cyclecraft and other animals

[Doctor J. Frink]

Hullo,

Been looking round the bookshops today for Cyclecraft but couldn't find
it. I did find a few other bike books, such as the Haynes bike
maintenance manual and some others by Chris somebody-or-other.

Is Cyclecraft still available in the high street bookshops? Are any of
the other bike books any good for general info/maintenance, over and
above the big C?

Cheers,
Frink

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[Dr Curious]

"Doctor J. Frink" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hullo,
>
> Been looking round the bookshops today for Cyclecraft but couldn't find
> it. I did find a few other bike books, such as the Haynes bike
> maintenance manual and some others by Chris somebody-or-other.
>
> Is Cyclecraft still available in the high street bookshops? Are any of
> the other bike books any good for general info/maintenance, over and
> above the big C?

....

£12.99 from Amazon UK

http://tinyurl.com/ys2qu

At a keyboad near you


Curious




>
> Cheers,
> Frink
>
> --
> Doctor J. Frink : 'Rampant Ribald Ringtail'
> See his mind here : http://www.cmp.liv.ac.uk/frink/
> Annoy his mind here : pjf at cmp dot liv dot ack dot ook
> "No sir, I didn't like it!" - Mr Horse

 

[JohnB]

"Doctor J. Frink" wrote:
>
> Hullo,
>
> Been looking round the bookshops today for Cyclecraft but couldn't find
> it. I did find a few other bike books, such as the Haynes bike
> maintenance manual and some others by Chris somebody-or-other.
>
> Is Cyclecraft still available in the high street bookshops? Are any of
> the other bike books any good for general info/maintenance, over and
> above the big C?

I think you will be *very* lucky to find it in a bookshop on the
off-chance. However you can order it and a new printing came out a
couple of months ago.

Any reasonable bookshop should be able to order it for you or go to the
Stationery Office:
http://www.tso.co.uk/
ISBN 0 11 702051 6

John B

 

[anonymous coward]

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:02:53 +0000, Doctor J. Frink wrote:

> Hullo,
>
> Been looking round the bookshops today for Cyclecraft but couldn't find
> it. I did find a few other bike books, such as the Haynes bike
> maintenance manual and some others by Chris somebody-or-other.
>
> Is Cyclecraft still available in the high street bookshops? Are any of
> the other bike books any good for general info/maintenance, over and
> above the big C?

This is something that has long puzzled me. Every bookshop seems to stock
the books on advanced driving and motorcycling; I have never found
Cyclecraft _anywhere_ except 2nd hand in an Oxfam bookshop.

The same goes for bike shops - none of them seem to sell it - even the
ones that genuinely seem to cater for utility cyclists..?

Ac

 

[JohnB]

anonymous coward wrote:
>
> On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:02:53 +0000, Doctor J. Frink wrote:
>
> > Hullo,
> >
> > Been looking round the bookshops today for Cyclecraft but couldn't find
> > it.
>
> This is something that has long puzzled me. Every bookshop seems to stock
> the books on advanced driving and motorcycling; I have never found
> Cyclecraft _anywhere_ except 2nd hand in an Oxfam bookshop.
>
> The same goes for bike shops - none of them seem to sell it - even the
> ones that genuinely seem to cater for utility cyclists..?

Same thought came to me yesterday when I went into a bike shop in Romsey
for either a copy of Arrive Alive, the Highway Code for Young Road
Users, or anything else for new riders.
I received a blank stare and it was suggested I try the library.
Thneither did they have the 'adult' version.

The whole country seems to be geared towards the motorist :-((

John B

 

[Tim Woodall]

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 19:09:24 +0100,
anonymous coward <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> This is something that has long puzzled me. Every bookshop seems to stock
> the books on advanced driving and motorcycling; I have never found
> Cyclecraft _anywhere_ except 2nd hand in an Oxfam bookshop.
>
I got mine from Borders in Watford "off the shelf".

Tim.

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[Doctor J. Frink]

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 18:18:02 +0100, Dr Curious <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"Doctor J. Frink" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...

[Cyclecraft: where is it?]

>...
>
>£12.99 from Amazon UK
>
>http://tinyurl.com/ys2qu
>
>At a keyboad near you

I knew Amazon did it but I like to have a flick through books before
buying them. Looks like that won't be possible (short of hunting it down
in the library) with Cyclecraft. In both WHSmiths and Waterstones the
Transport sections at least had two books on bike maintenance. Not as
many as for motorbikes. Much less than for cars. Less than for trains
even.

Maybe the bicycle is seen as so simple to fix you don't need a manual
(definitely not true with all the fancy stuff they're fitted with these
days).

Frink

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[Dr Curious]

"Doctor J. Frink" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 18:18:02 +0100, Dr Curious <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >"Doctor J. Frink" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
>
> [Cyclecraft: where is it?]
>
> >...
> >
> >£12.99 from Amazon UK
> >
> >http://tinyurl.com/ys2qu
> >
> >At a keyboad near you
>
> I knew Amazon did it but I like to have a flick through books before
> buying them. Looks like that won't be possible (short of hunting it down
> in the library)


Liverpool City Library catalogue

(There are separate frames on the page so a link is pointless )

at a keyboard near you

_______________________________________________________________

Franklin, John. - Cyclecraft. - Rev. ed. - London : Stationery
Office, 1997. - 0117020516

----------------------------------------------------------------
Click on a line below to see details of copies at each location.
Location Shelfmark Copies On loan
Central Library 796.6/FRA 1 0

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Place reservation References list Title details

____________________________________________________________________




Curious


>
> Frink
>
> --
> Doctor J. Frink : 'Rampant Ribald Ringtail'
> See his mind here : http://www.cmp.liv.ac.uk/frink/
> Annoy his mind here : pjf at cmp dot liv dot ack dot ook
> "No sir, I didn't like it!" - Mr Horse

 

[anonymous coward]

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 21:04:49 +0000, Doctor J. Frink wrote:

> Maybe the bicycle is seen as so simple to fix you don't need a manual
> (definitely not true with all the fancy stuff they're fitted with these
> days).

Cyclecraft is not primarily a manual - though I think it has a short
section on checking brakes etc etc... It's mostly about how to cycle
safely in traffic.

But don't let me put you off - despite having a driving license and
cycle-commuting for several years, I still found lots of useful stuff in
there when I ordered my copy.

AC

 

[Doctor J. Frink]

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 22:33:06 +0100, Dr Curious <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>Liverpool City Library catalogue

Very useful. Unfortunately my email addy etc is misleading as I don't
actually live in Liverpool anymore ;0).

Frink

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Annoy his mind here : pjf at cmp dot liv dot ack dot ook
"No sir, I didn't like it!" - Mr Horse

 

[Gawnsoft]

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 19:09:24 +0100, anonymous coward
<[email protected]> wrote (more or less):

>On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:02:53 +0000, Doctor J. Frink wrote:
>
>> Hullo,
>>
>> Been looking round the bookshops today for Cyclecraft but couldn't find
>> it. I did find a few other bike books, such as the Haynes bike
>> maintenance manual and some others by Chris somebody-or-other.
>>
>> Is Cyclecraft still available in the high street bookshops? Are any of
>> the other bike books any good for general info/maintenance, over and
>> above the big C?
>
>This is something that has long puzzled me. Every bookshop seems to stock
>the books on advanced driving and motorcycling; I have never found
>Cyclecraft _anywhere_ except 2nd hand in an Oxfam bookshop.

Have you tried one of the HMSO high street shops?


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[paul]

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 22:33:06 +0100, Dr Curious <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >Liverpool City Library catalogue
>
> Very useful. Unfortunately my email addy etc is misleading as I don't
> actually live in Liverpool anymore ;0).
>
> Frink
>
>
Hey, I've just read your Carol Vorderman. You're a hero in this
household, we don't care if you lost it, you're cool by assosiation ;o)
--
..paul

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[Helen Deborah Vecht]

Gawnsoft <[email protected]>typed


> Have you tried one of the HMSO high street shops?

Now tso...

(IIRC it is tso.org.uk previously The Stationery Office, previously Her
Majesty's Stationery Office) There's a branch opposite the Usher Hall in
Edinburgh.

I find all this rebadging confusing.

I think Cyclecraft was being reprinted recently and availability has
been rather limited.

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Edgware.

 

[David Hansen]

On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:33:39 +0100 someone who may be Helen Deborah
Vecht <[email protected]> wrote this:-

>(IIRC it is tso.org.uk previously The Stationery Office, previously Her
>Majesty's Stationery Office) There's a branch opposite the Usher Hall in
>Edinburgh.

Which is where I picked a copy off the shelf. I had gone in for
something else.


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[anonymous coward]

On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 01:33:42 +0100, Gawnsoft wrote:

> On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 19:09:24 +0100, anonymous coward
> <[email protected]> wrote (more or less):
>
>>On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:02:53 +0000, Doctor J. Frink wrote:
>>
>>> Hullo,
>>>
>>> Been looking round the bookshops today for Cyclecraft but couldn't find
>>> it. I did find a few other bike books, such as the Haynes bike
>>> maintenance manual and some others by Chris somebody-or-other.
>>>
>>> Is Cyclecraft still available in the high street bookshops? Are any of
>>> the other bike books any good for general info/maintenance, over and
>>> above the big C?
>>
>>This is something that has long puzzled me. Every bookshop seems to stock
>>the books on advanced driving and motorcycling; I have never found
>>Cyclecraft _anywhere_ except 2nd hand in an Oxfam bookshop.
>
> Have you tried one of the HMSO high street shops?

I've never seen an HMSO high street shop. Maybe I'm just unobservant.

AC

 

[Helen Deborah Vecht]

anonymous coward <[email protected]>typed

> I've never seen an HMSO high street shop. Maybe I'm just unobservant.

Try 'tso'

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Edgware.

 

[anonymous coward]

On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 15:33:47 +0100, anonymous coward wrote:

> On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 01:33:42 +0100, Gawnsoft wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 19:09:24 +0100, anonymous coward
>> <[email protected]> wrote (more or less):
>>
>>>On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:02:53 +0000, Doctor J. Frink wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hullo,
>>>>
>>>> Been looking round the bookshops today for Cyclecraft but couldn't find
>>>> it. I did find a few other bike books, such as the Haynes bike
>>>> maintenance manual and some others by Chris somebody-or-other.
>>>>
>>>> Is Cyclecraft still available in the high street bookshops? Are any of
>>>> the other bike books any good for general info/maintenance, over and
>>>> above the big C?
>>>
>>>This is something that has long puzzled me. Every bookshop seems to stock
>>>the books on advanced driving and motorcycling; I have never found
>>>Cyclecraft _anywhere_ except 2nd hand in an Oxfam bookshop.
>>
>> Have you tried one of the HMSO high street shops?
>
> I've never seen an HMSO high street shop. Maybe I'm just unobservant.
>

Aha - Google says that the TSO has 6 bookshops in:

Belfast Birmingham
Cardiff Edinburgh
London Manchester

www.tso-online.co.uk

AC

 

[Danny Colyer]

anonymous coward wrote:
> Aha - Google says that the TSO has 6 bookshops in:
>
> Belfast Birmingham
> Cardiff Edinburgh
> London Manchester

Assuming TSO means HMSO (as other posts suggest), there's one in Bristol
as well (or there was the last time I went into the centre).

That's probably where I got my copy.

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[JohnB]

Danny Colyer wrote:

> Assuming TSO means HMSO (as other posts suggest), there's one in Bristol
> as well (or there was the last time I went into the centre).
>
> That's probably where I got my copy.

Bristol is the *only* place where I've seen CycleCraft in a bike shop.
There was a copy in David Baters a few months back, although it was
rather dog-eared.

John B

 

[AJ]

Helen Deborah Vecht <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> anonymous coward <[email protected]>typed
>
> > I've never seen an HMSO high street shop. Maybe I'm just unobservant.
>
> Try 'tso'

HMSO still exists as part of the Cabinet Office (www.hmso.gov.uk). Its
book publishing/ selling function was privatised in 1996 into a
company called The Stationery Office (www.tso.gov.uk). There are no
longer any government HMSO bookshops but there are TSO bookshops.