Cyclecraft and other animals

[Doctor J. Frink]

Hullo,

Been looking round the bookshops today for Cyclecraft but
couldn't find
it. I did find a few other bike books, such as the
Haynes bike maintenance manual and some others by
Chris somebody-or-other.

Is Cyclecraft still available in the high street bookshops?
Are any of the other bike books any good for general
info/maintenance, over and above the big C?

Cheers, Frink

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[Dr Curious]

"Doctor J. Frink" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hullo,
>
> Been looking round the bookshops today for Cyclecraft but
> couldn't find
> it. I did find a few other bike books, such as the Haynes
> bike maintenance manual and some others by Chris somebody-or-
> other.
>
> Is Cyclecraft still available in the high street
> bookshops? Are any of the other bike books any good for
> general info/maintenance, over and above the big C?

...

£12.99 from Amazon UK

http://tinyurl.com/ys2qu

At a keyboad near you

Curious

>
> Cheers, Frink
>
> --
> Doctor J. Frink : 'Rampant Ribald Ringtail' See his mind
> here : http://www.cmp.liv.ac.uk/frink/ Annoy his mind here
> : pjf at cmp dot liv dot ack dot ook "No sir, I didn't
> like it!" - Mr Horse

 

[Johnb]

"Doctor J. Frink" wrote:
>
> Hullo,
>
> Been looking round the bookshops today for Cyclecraft but
> couldn't find
> it. I did find a few other bike books, such as the Haynes
> bike maintenance manual and some others by Chris somebody-or-
> other.
>
> Is Cyclecraft still available in the high street
> bookshops? Are any of the other bike books any good for
> general info/maintenance, over and above the big C?

I think you will be *very* lucky to find it in a bookshop on
the off-chance. However you can order it and a new printing
came out a couple of months ago.

Any reasonable bookshop should be able to order it for you
or go to the Stationery Office: http://www.tso.co.uk/ ISBN 0
11 702051 6

John B

 

[Anonymous Cowar]

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:02:53 +0000, Doctor J. Frink wrote:

> Hullo,
>
> Been looking round the bookshops today for Cyclecraft but
> couldn't find
> it. I did find a few other bike books, such as the Haynes
> bike maintenance manual and some others by Chris somebody-or-
> other.
>
> Is Cyclecraft still available in the high street
> bookshops? Are any of the other bike books any good for
> general info/maintenance, over and above the big C?

This is something that has long puzzled me. Every bookshop
seems to stock the books on advanced driving and
motorcycling; I have never found Cyclecraft _anywhere_
except 2nd hand in an Oxfam bookshop.

The same goes for bike shops - none of them seem to sell it
- even the ones that genuinely seem to cater for utility
cyclists..?

Ac

 

[Johnb]

anonymous coward wrote:
>
> On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:02:53 +0000, Doctor J. Frink wrote:
>
> > Hullo,
> >
> > Been looking round the bookshops today for Cyclecraft
> > but couldn't find
> > it.
>
> This is something that has long puzzled me. Every bookshop
> seems to stock the books on advanced driving and
> motorcycling; I have never found Cyclecraft _anywhere_
> except 2nd hand in an Oxfam bookshop.
>
> The same goes for bike shops - none of them seem to sell
> it - even the ones that genuinely seem to cater for
> utility cyclists..?

Same thought came to me yesterday when I went into a bike
shop in Romsey for either a copy of Arrive Alive, the
Highway Code for Young Road Users, or anything else for new
riders. I received a blank stare and it was suggested I try
the library. Thneither did they have the 'adult' version.

The whole country seems to be geared towards the
motorist :-((

John B

 

[Tim Woodall]

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 19:09:24 +0100,
anonymous coward <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> This is something that has long puzzled me. Every bookshop
> seems to stock the books on advanced driving and
> motorcycling; I have never found Cyclecraft _anywhere_
> except 2nd hand in an Oxfam bookshop.
>
I got mine from Borders in Watford "off the shelf".

Tim.

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[Doctor J. Frink]

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 18:18:02 +0100, Dr Curious <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"Doctor J. Frink" <[email protected]> wrote in
>message news:[email protected]...

[Cyclecraft: where is it?]

>...
>
>£12.99 from Amazon UK
>
>http://tinyurl.com/ys2qu
>
>At a keyboad near you

I knew Amazon did it but I like to have a flick through
books before buying them. Looks like that won't be
possible (short of hunting it down in the library) with
Cyclecraft. In both WHSmiths and Waterstones the Transport
sections at least had two books on bike maintenance. Not
as many as for motorbikes. Much less than for cars. Less
than for trains even.

Maybe the bicycle is seen as so simple to fix you don't need
a manual (definitely not true with all the fancy stuff
they're fitted with these days).

Frink

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it!" - Mr Horse

 

[Dr Curious]

"Doctor J. Frink" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 18:18:02 +0100, Dr Curious
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >"Doctor J. Frink" <[email protected]> wrote in
> >message news:[email protected]...
>
> [Cyclecraft: where is it?]
>
> >...
> >
> >£12.99 from Amazon UK
> >
> >http://tinyurl.com/ys2qu
> >
> >At a keyboad near you
>
> I knew Amazon did it but I like to have a flick through
> books before buying them. Looks like that won't be
> possible (short of hunting it down in the library)

Liverpool City Library catalogue

(There are separate frames on the page so a link is
pointless )

at a keyboard near you

_____________________________________________________-
__________

Franklin, John. - Cyclecraft. - Rev. ed. - London :
Stationery Office, 1997. - 0117020516

------------------------------------------------------
----------
Click on a line below to see details of copies at each
location. Location Shelfmark Copies On loan Central Library
796.6/FRA 1 0

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Place reservation References list Title details

__________________________________________________________-
__________

Curious

>
> Frink
>
> --
> Doctor J. Frink : 'Rampant Ribald Ringtail' See his mind
> here : http://www.cmp.liv.ac.uk/frink/ Annoy his mind here
> : pjf at cmp dot liv dot ack dot ook "No sir, I didn't
> like it!" - Mr Horse

 

[Anonymous Cowar]

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 21:04:49 +0000, Doctor J. Frink wrote:

> Maybe the bicycle is seen as so simple to fix you don't
> need a manual (definitely not true with all the fancy
> stuff they're fitted with these days).

Cyclecraft is not primarily a manual - though I think it has
a short section on checking brakes etc etc... It's mostly
about how to cycle safely in traffic.

But don't let me put you off - despite having a driving
license and cycle-commuting for several years, I still found
lots of useful stuff in there when I ordered my copy.

AC

 

[Doctor J. Frink]

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 22:33:06 +0100, Dr Curious <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>Liverpool City Library catalogue

Very useful. Unfortunately my email addy etc is misleading
as I don't actually live in Liverpool anymore ;0).

Frink

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here : http://www.cmp.liv.ac.uk/frink/ Annoy his mind here :
pjf at cmp dot liv dot ack dot ook "No sir, I didn't like
it!" - Mr Horse

 

[Gawnsoft]

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 19:09:24 +0100, anonymous coward
<[email protected]> wrote (more or less):

>On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:02:53 +0000, Doctor J. Frink wrote:
>
>> Hullo,
>>
>> Been looking round the bookshops today for Cyclecraft but
>> couldn't find
>> it. I did find a few other bike books, such as the Haynes
>> bike maintenance manual and some others by Chris somebody-or-
>> other.
>>
>> Is Cyclecraft still available in the high street
>> bookshops? Are any of the other bike books any good for
>> general info/maintenance, over and above the big C?
>
>This is something that has long puzzled me. Every bookshop
>seems to stock the books on advanced driving and
>motorcycling; I have never found Cyclecraft _anywhere_
>except 2nd hand in an Oxfam bookshop.

Have you tried one of the HMSO high street shops?

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[Paul]

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 22:33:06 +0100, Dr Curious
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >Liverpool City Library catalogue
>
> Very useful. Unfortunately my email addy etc is misleading
> as I don't actually live in Liverpool anymore ;0).
>
> Frink
>
>
Hey, I've just read your Carol Vorderman. You're a hero in
this household, we don't care if you lost it, you're cool by
assosiation ;o)
--
.paul

If at first you don't succeed... Skydiving is probably not
the sport for you.

 

[Helen Deborah V]

Gawnsoft
<[email protected]>typed

> Have you tried one of the HMSO high street shops?

Now tso...

(IIRC it is tso.org.uk previously The Stationery Office,
previously Her Majesty's Stationery Office) There's a branch
opposite the Usher Hall in Edinburgh.

I find all this rebadging confusing.

I think Cyclecraft was being reprinted recently and
availability has been rather limited.

--
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[David Hansen]

On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 11:33:39 +0100 someone who may be Helen Deborah
Vecht <[email protected]> wrote this:-

>(IIRC it is tso.org.uk previously The Stationery Office,
>previously Her Majesty's Stationery Office) There's a
>branch opposite the Usher Hall in Edinburgh.

Which is where I picked a copy off the shelf. I had gone in
for something else.

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government prevents me using the RIP Act 2000.

 

[Anonymous Cowar]

On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 01:33:42 +0100, Gawnsoft wrote:

> On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 19:09:24 +0100, anonymous coward
> <[email protected]> wrote (more or less):
>
>>On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:02:53 +0000, Doctor J. Frink wrote:
>>
>>> Hullo,
>>>
>>> Been looking round the bookshops today for Cyclecraft
>>> but couldn't find
>>> it. I did find a few other bike books, such as the
>>> Haynes bike maintenance manual and some others by
>>> Chris somebody-or-other.
>>>
>>> Is Cyclecraft still available in the high street
>>> bookshops? Are any of the other bike books any good for
>>> general info/maintenance, over and above the big C?
>>
>>This is something that has long puzzled me. Every bookshop
>>seems to stock the books on advanced driving and
>>motorcycling; I have never found Cyclecraft _anywhere_
>>except 2nd hand in an Oxfam bookshop.
>
> Have you tried one of the HMSO high street shops?

I've never seen an HMSO high street shop. Maybe I'm just
unobservant.

AC

 

[Anonymous Cowar]

On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 15:33:47 +0100, anonymous coward wrote:

> On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 01:33:42 +0100, Gawnsoft wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 19:09:24 +0100, anonymous coward
>> <[email protected]> wrote (more or less):
>>
>>>On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:02:53 +0000, Doctor J. Frink
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hullo,
>>>>
>>>> Been looking round the bookshops today for Cyclecraft
>>>> but couldn't find
>>>> it. I did find a few other bike books, such as the
>>>> Haynes bike maintenance manual and some others by
>>>> Chris somebody-or-other.
>>>>
>>>> Is Cyclecraft still available in the high street
>>>> bookshops? Are any of the other bike books any good for
>>>> general info/maintenance, over and above the big C?
>>>
>>>This is something that has long puzzled me. Every
>>>bookshop seems to stock the books on advanced driving and
>>>motorcycling; I have never found Cyclecraft _anywhere_
>>>except 2nd hand in an Oxfam bookshop.
>>
>> Have you tried one of the HMSO high street shops?
>
> I've never seen an HMSO high street shop. Maybe I'm just
> unobservant.
>

Aha - Google says that the TSO has 6 bookshops in:

Belfast Birmingham Cardiff Edinburgh London Manchester

www.tso-online.co.uk

AC

 

[Helen Deborah V]

anonymous coward <[email protected]>typed

> I've never seen an HMSO high street shop. Maybe I'm just
> unobservant.

Try 'tso'

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[Danny Colyer]

anonymous coward wrote:
> Aha - Google says that the TSO has 6 bookshops in:
>
> Belfast Birmingham Cardiff Edinburgh London Manchester

Assuming TSO means HMSO (as other posts suggest), there's
one in Bristol as well (or there was the last time I went
into the centre).

That's probably where I got my copy.

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reply address)
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dares not offend cannot be honest." - Thomas Paine

 

[Johnb]

Danny Colyer wrote:

> Assuming TSO means HMSO (as other posts suggest), there's
> one in Bristol as well (or there was the last time I went
> into the centre).
>
> That's probably where I got my copy.

Bristol is the *only* place where I've seen CycleCraft in a
bike shop. There was a copy in David Baters a few months
back, although it was rather dog-eared.

John B

 

[Aj]

Helen Deborah Vecht <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> anonymous coward <[email protected]>typed
>
> > I've never seen an HMSO high street shop. Maybe I'm just
> > unobservant.
>
> Try 'tso'

HMSO still exists as part of the Cabinet Office
(www.hmso.gov.uk). Its book publishing/ selling function was
privatised in 1996 into a company called The Stationery
Office (www.tso.gov.uk). There are no longer any government
HMSO bookshops but there are TSO bookshops.