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Article by music journo Robert Elms on why cycling is cool.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,20029-1851583,00.html
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Clive George
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> Article by music journo Robert Elms on why cycling is cool.
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> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,20029-1851583,00.html
So, somebody who chose italian components coz they're chic can't even be
bothered to spell their name right :-(
And side rant - why is having a jacket that's only available in black a good
thing?
cheers,
clive
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> Article by music journo Robert Elms on why cycling is cool.
>
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,20029-1851583,00.html
So, somebody who chose italian components coz they're chic can't even be
bothered to spell their name right :-(
And side rant - why is having a jacket that's only available in black a good
thing?
cheers,
clive
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John Hearns
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On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 11:25:58 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
> Article by music journo Robert Elms on why cycling is cool.
>
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,20029-1851583,00.html
On Radio London yesterday he was asking for listeners to phone in
with good cycling routes. I didn't catch much of that bit of the programme.
I would have suggested following the Thames Path from Tower Bridge, down
through Greenwich and to the Barrier. All locations mentioned by his
previous guest.
> Article by music journo Robert Elms on why cycling is cool.
>
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,20029-1851583,00.html
On Radio London yesterday he was asking for listeners to phone in
with good cycling routes. I didn't catch much of that bit of the programme.
I would have suggested following the Thames Path from Tower Bridge, down
through Greenwich and to the Barrier. All locations mentioned by his
previous guest.
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Danny Colyer
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Clive George wrote:
> And side rant - why is having a jacket that's only available in black a good
> thing?
I couldn't see where the journo claimed that it was.
Nice article BTW Simon, thanks for posting the link. Shame there's not
a better picture of the bike.
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> And side rant - why is having a jacket that's only available in black a good
> thing?
I couldn't see where the journo claimed that it was.
Nice article BTW Simon, thanks for posting the link. Shame there's not
a better picture of the bike.
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John Hearns
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On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 11:25:58 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
> Article by music journo Robert Elms on why cycling is cool.
>
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,20029-1851583,00.html
Helen, I think you have a new fan here:
"...if you want your nether regions to survive the ride, and the best ones
also come with a truly embarrassing bib and shoulder straps. You look like
a blobby Blondin with the family jewels on display"
> Article by music journo Robert Elms on why cycling is cool.
>
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,20029-1851583,00.html
Helen, I think you have a new fan here:
"...if you want your nether regions to survive the ride, and the best ones
also come with a truly embarrassing bib and shoulder straps. You look like
a blobby Blondin with the family jewels on display"
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Clive George
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"Danny Colyer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Clive George wrote:
>> And side rant - why is having a jacket that's only available in black a
>> good thing?
>
> I couldn't see where the journo claimed that it was.
He didn't - that's why it was a side rant. OTOH he did recommend it as the
thing to wear on your bike - which for a piece of kit designed to be used in
**** weather conditions is a bit wrong IMO. I have emailed the
manufacturers, but don't expect anything to come of it.
cheers,
clive
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> Clive George wrote:
>> And side rant - why is having a jacket that's only available in black a
>> good thing?
>
> I couldn't see where the journo claimed that it was.
He didn't - that's why it was a side rant. OTOH he did recommend it as the
thing to wear on your bike - which for a piece of kit designed to be used in
**** weather conditions is a bit wrong IMO. I have emailed the
manufacturers, but don't expect anything to come of it.
cheers,
clive
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> On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 11:25:58 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Article by music journo Robert Elms on why cycling is cool.
>>
>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,20029-1851583,00.html
>
> Helen, I think you have a new fan here:
>
> "...if you want your nether regions to survive the ride, and the best ones
> also come with a truly embarrassing bib and shoulder straps. You look like
> a blobby Blondin with the family jewels on display"
Sounds like he's made a feeble attempt to get out of a slabbing more like
;-)
PSF...
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[email protected]...> On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 11:25:58 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Article by music journo Robert Elms on why cycling is cool.
>>
>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,20029-1851583,00.html
>
> Helen, I think you have a new fan here:
>
> "...if you want your nether regions to survive the ride, and the best ones
> also come with a truly embarrassing bib and shoulder straps. You look like
> a blobby Blondin with the family jewels on display"
Sounds like he's made a feeble attempt to get out of a slabbing more like
;-)
PSF...
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"Clive George" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> [snip]
> So, somebody who chose italian components coz they're chic can't even be
> bothered to spell their name right :-(
>
> And side rant - why is having a jacket that's only available in black a
> good thing?
>
Fair enough. It's not perfect, but the article still manages to communicate
the attraction of our chosen sport very well. If it encourages a few more
people onto their bikes, I certainly wouldn't complain. Having rediscovered
cycling myself this summer after a 3-year absence, I can certainly identify
with the author.
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> [snip]
> So, somebody who chose italian components coz they're chic can't even be
> bothered to spell their name right :-(
>
> And side rant - why is having a jacket that's only available in black a
> good thing?
>
Fair enough. It's not perfect, but the article still manages to communicate
the attraction of our chosen sport very well. If it encourages a few more
people onto their bikes, I certainly wouldn't complain. Having rediscovered
cycling myself this summer after a 3-year absence, I can certainly identify
with the author.
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Here are a few more:
Woman learns how to ride a bike for the first time.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,8127-1835183,00.html
Scheme to help employees get fitter.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,8543-1868911,00.html
Cycling is the new cool.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1637224,00.html
BTW - got your photo off the TV back from the photo lab (still using
steam film here) Will put them up tomorrow.
Simon
Woman learns how to ride a bike for the first time.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,8127-1835183,00.html
Scheme to help employees get fitter.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,8543-1868911,00.html
Cycling is the new cool.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1637224,00.html
BTW - got your photo off the TV back from the photo lab (still using
steam film here) Will put them up tomorrow.
Simon
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Helen Deborah Vecht
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John Hearns <[email protected]>typed
> On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 11:25:58 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
> > Article by music journo Robert Elms on why cycling is cool.
> >
> > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,20029-1851583,00.html
> On Radio London yesterday he was asking for listeners to phone in
> with good cycling routes. I didn't catch much of that bit of the programme.
> I would have suggested following the Thames Path from Tower Bridge, down
> through Greenwich and to the Barrier. All locations mentioned by his
> previous guest.
Robert Elms wrote 'The Way We Wore', which was recently serialised on
Radio 4. Seldom have I felt I really could not relate to things
described, even though they all sounded *so* familiar.
Turns out we were at the same school at almost exactly the same time; he
was in the year below me, but I never knew him.
If I can't relate to what he writes about cycling, I'm not surprised; I
was cycling in Burnt Oak in 1975 (and 2000).
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> On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 11:25:58 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
> > Article by music journo Robert Elms on why cycling is cool.
> >
> > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,20029-1851583,00.html
> On Radio London yesterday he was asking for listeners to phone in
> with good cycling routes. I didn't catch much of that bit of the programme.
> I would have suggested following the Thames Path from Tower Bridge, down
> through Greenwich and to the Barrier. All locations mentioned by his
> previous guest.
Robert Elms wrote 'The Way We Wore', which was recently serialised on
Radio 4. Seldom have I felt I really could not relate to things
described, even though they all sounded *so* familiar.
Turns out we were at the same school at almost exactly the same time; he
was in the year below me, but I never knew him.
If I can't relate to what he writes about cycling, I'm not surprised; I
was cycling in Burnt Oak in 1975 (and 2000).
--
Helen D. Vecht: [email protected]
Edgware.
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John Hearns
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On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:41:44 +0000, Clive George wrote:
>
> So, somebody who chose italian components coz they're chic can't even be
> bothered to spell their name right :-(
>
> And side rant - why is having a jacket that's only available in black a
> good thing?
Most of my cycling gear is black.
Why should I look like a dayglo lemon drop?
My lovely Parrot windproof top has Scotchlite piping.
And I mostly wear a vest with reflectives, and hang an LED light off it
www.urban-glow.co.uk
Bike has reflective tape on the stays, and cranks have reflective tape.
>
> So, somebody who chose italian components coz they're chic can't even be
> bothered to spell their name right :-(
>
> And side rant - why is having a jacket that's only available in black a
> good thing?
Most of my cycling gear is black.
Why should I look like a dayglo lemon drop?
My lovely Parrot windproof top has Scotchlite piping.
And I mostly wear a vest with reflectives, and hang an LED light off it
www.urban-glow.co.uk
Bike has reflective tape on the stays, and cranks have reflective tape.
J
John Hearns
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On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:59:43 +0000, Clive George wrote:
> He didn't - that's why it was a side rant. OTOH he did recommend it as the
> thing to wear on your bike - which for a piece of kit designed to be used
> in **** weather conditions is a bit wrong IMO. I have emailed the
> manufacturers, but don't expect anything to come of it.
Reflective Rapha Logo on storm flap.
> He didn't - that's why it was a side rant. OTOH he did recommend it as the
> thing to wear on your bike - which for a piece of kit designed to be used
> in **** weather conditions is a bit wrong IMO. I have emailed the
> manufacturers, but don't expect anything to come of it.
Reflective Rapha Logo on storm flap.
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"John Hearns" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:41:44 +0000, Clive George wrote:
>
>>
>> So, somebody who chose italian components coz they're chic can't even be
>> bothered to spell their name right :-(
>>
>> And side rant - why is having a jacket that's only available in black a
>> good thing?
> Most of my cycling gear is black.
> Why should I look like a dayglo lemon drop?
>
You'd look very nice as a dayglo lemon drop.
Cheers, helen s
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[email protected]...> On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:41:44 +0000, Clive George wrote:
>
>>
>> So, somebody who chose italian components coz they're chic can't even be
>> bothered to spell their name right :-(
>>
>> And side rant - why is having a jacket that's only available in black a
>> good thing?
> Most of my cycling gear is black.
> Why should I look like a dayglo lemon drop?
>
You'd look very nice as a dayglo lemon drop.
Cheers, helen s
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Clive George
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"John Hearns" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:41:44 +0000, Clive George wrote:
>
>>
>> So, somebody who chose italian components coz they're chic can't even be
>> bothered to spell their name right :-(
>>
>> And side rant - why is having a jacket that's only available in black a
>> good thing?
> Most of my cycling gear is black.
> Why should I look like a dayglo lemon drop?
I don't care what you look like, I care what I look like - and dayglo lemon
drop is what I want.
> My lovely Parrot windproof top has Scotchlite piping.
(ah, parrot - another company I've had to avoid due to colour constraints)
> And I mostly wear a vest with reflectives, and hang an LED light off it
> www.urban-glow.co.uk
I can't be arsed with a separate vest/sam browne belt/whatever. The clothes
I wear on my bike have to do the visibility thing on their own.
IME flourescent works loads better than reflectives a lot of the time I'm
riding - cloud cover/low light, but not dark.
Also vests fail due to having no arms - which make quite a difference to
your perceived size.
> Bike has reflective tape on the stays, and cranks have reflective tape.
I don't have problems being seen at night, when reflectives work - and I've
got quite a lot less than you. It's daytime/dusk when I want to stand out
more.
> Reflective Rapha Logo on storm flap.
Even you don't think that's adequate.
cheers,
clive
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[email protected]...> On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:41:44 +0000, Clive George wrote:
>
>>
>> So, somebody who chose italian components coz they're chic can't even be
>> bothered to spell their name right :-(
>>
>> And side rant - why is having a jacket that's only available in black a
>> good thing?
> Most of my cycling gear is black.
> Why should I look like a dayglo lemon drop?
I don't care what you look like, I care what I look like - and dayglo lemon
drop is what I want.
> My lovely Parrot windproof top has Scotchlite piping.
(ah, parrot - another company I've had to avoid due to colour constraints)
> And I mostly wear a vest with reflectives, and hang an LED light off it
> www.urban-glow.co.uk
I can't be arsed with a separate vest/sam browne belt/whatever. The clothes
I wear on my bike have to do the visibility thing on their own.
IME flourescent works loads better than reflectives a lot of the time I'm
riding - cloud cover/low light, but not dark.
Also vests fail due to having no arms - which make quite a difference to
your perceived size.
> Bike has reflective tape on the stays, and cranks have reflective tape.
I don't have problems being seen at night, when reflectives work - and I've
got quite a lot less than you. It's daytime/dusk when I want to stand out
more.
> Reflective Rapha Logo on storm flap.
Even you don't think that's adequate.
cheers,
clive
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Danny Colyer
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Clive George wrote:
> I don't care what you look like, I care what I look like - and dayglo lemon
> drop is what I want.
<snip>
> (ah, parrot - another company I've had to avoid due to colour constraints)
Why's that then? I bought a fluorescent yellow gilet from Parrot.
Makes me look like a dayglo lemon drop
Most of the stuff I've bought from them has been red, though.
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> I don't care what you look like, I care what I look like - and dayglo lemon
> drop is what I want.
<snip>
> (ah, parrot - another company I've had to avoid due to colour constraints)
Why's that then? I bought a fluorescent yellow gilet from Parrot.
Makes me look like a dayglo lemon drop
Most of the stuff I've bought from them has been red, though.
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Clive George wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Article by music journo Robert Elms on why cycling is cool.
> >
> > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,20029-1851583,00.html
>
> So, somebody who chose italian components coz they're chic can't even be
> bothered to spell their name right :-(
>
> And side rant - why is having a jacket that's only available in black a good
> thing?
>
> cheers,
> clive
Don't tell Waffycat but I think he's wearing bib shorts. Poor man
John Kane, Kingston ON Canada
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Article by music journo Robert Elms on why cycling is cool.
> >
> > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,20029-1851583,00.html
>
> So, somebody who chose italian components coz they're chic can't even be
> bothered to spell their name right :-(
>
> And side rant - why is having a jacket that's only available in black a good
> thing?
>
> cheers,
> clive
Don't tell Waffycat but I think he's wearing bib shorts. Poor man
John Kane, Kingston ON Canada
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Clive George
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"Danny Colyer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Clive George wrote:
>> I don't care what you look like, I care what I look like - and dayglo
>> lemon drop is what I want.
> <snip>
>> (ah, parrot - another company I've had to avoid due to colour
>> constraints)
>
> Why's that then? I bought a fluorescent yellow gilet from Parrot. Makes
> me look like a dayglo lemon drop
Ah - I'll confess I didn't look at gilets, since they're almost exactly what
I don't want. (when did the name 'gilet' enter everyday circulation?
certainly not when I was little (I'm about the same age as you) ). I was
looking at t-shirts/jerseys at the time.
It's a pity - for a while I was looking for a new short-sleeved top, and I
kept getting their leaflets - but never any joy.
cheers,
clive
news:[email protected]...
> Clive George wrote:
>> I don't care what you look like, I care what I look like - and dayglo
>> lemon drop is what I want.
> <snip>
>> (ah, parrot - another company I've had to avoid due to colour
>> constraints)
>
> Why's that then? I bought a fluorescent yellow gilet from Parrot. Makes
> me look like a dayglo lemon drop
Ah - I'll confess I didn't look at gilets, since they're almost exactly what
I don't want. (when did the name 'gilet' enter everyday circulation?
certainly not when I was little (I'm about the same age as you) ). I was
looking at t-shirts/jerseys at the time.
It's a pity - for a while I was looking for a new short-sleeved top, and I
kept getting their leaflets - but never any joy.
cheers,
clive
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>You'd look very nice as a dayglo lemon drop.
Especially to various multi legged winged creatures!
Especially to various multi legged winged creatures!
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Danny Colyer
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Clive George wrote:
> Ah - I'll confess I didn't look at gilets, since they're almost exactly what
> I don't want. (when did the name 'gilet' enter everyday circulation?
It didn't. I think I learnt it on urc.
I sometimes regret ordering the yellow one. I just don't feel right
wearing yellow, I really should have ordered the red one.
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> Ah - I'll confess I didn't look at gilets, since they're almost exactly what
> I don't want. (when did the name 'gilet' enter everyday circulation?
It didn't. I think I learnt it on urc.
I sometimes regret ordering the yellow one. I just don't feel right
wearing yellow, I really should have ordered the red one.
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On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 21:01:00 +0000, wafflycat wrote:
>
>> Most of my cycling gear is black.
>> Why should I look like a dayglo lemon drop?
>>
>>
> You'd look very nice as a dayglo lemon drop.
>
My point really is that on this group we are forever talking up
utility cycling. However, in the UK from what I see going cycling
involves putting on lots of specialised gear. I don't say that I'm any
different here - I have all the gear and SPD shoes too.
I'm not putting it well, but cyclists are forever being portrayed in
the media as wearing ridiculous gear.
Don't get me wrong - I'm all for being seen when out on the road.
>
>> Most of my cycling gear is black.
>> Why should I look like a dayglo lemon drop?
>>
>>
> You'd look very nice as a dayglo lemon drop.
>
My point really is that on this group we are forever talking up
utility cycling. However, in the UK from what I see going cycling
involves putting on lots of specialised gear. I don't say that I'm any
different here - I have all the gear and SPD shoes too.
I'm not putting it well, but cyclists are forever being portrayed in
the media as wearing ridiculous gear.
Don't get me wrong - I'm all for being seen when out on the road.
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