CYCLING UNDERWEAR



Alex Rodriguez wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, "frenkatfrenk-do-t_c0m-p"@rse-this-if-
> you.can says...
>
>
>>Next time you come to Switzerland send me an email,
>>we'll go to the factory, you'll see prices are not that
>>high! :)
>
>
> What's the address? At Assos prices a good discount
> will pay for airfare to Switzerland after buying only a
> few items.
> -------------
> Alex
>

Assos SA abbigliamento e componenti per il ciclismo via
Bresce 1 6854 S. Pietro (TI) phone: +41 91 6473971

Best choice is fly to Milano and drive in direction
Switzerland/Chiasso, then continue a bit in direction
Lugano. Even assuming they are giving their clothes away for
free, I doubt you'll save money!

Francesco
 
RE/
> Are you washing your shorts after every ride? If not, that
> may be the culprit.

I've got to wonder if "washing" is a good enough spec.

My experience with dress shirts and armpit odor is that
clothing can become infected with microorganisms over time
that persist even through some types of commonly-practices
"washing".

You've got to "wash" the clothing in such a way that it
kills the little buggers and simultaneously eliminate said
flora from the skin.

One or the other can mitigate things but for a real fix,
they have to be concurrent.
--
PeteCresswell
 
"C Keller" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I know, I know. We don't wear underwear under out
> cycling shorts.
>
> BUT (or should that be BUTT?) my dermatologist is urging
> me to wear some to prevent the skin infections I get on
> multi-day rides.
>
> I understand a company called Andiamo! makes briefs just
> for wearing under your cycling shorts.
>
> Does anybody out there have experience with them? Are they
> comfortable?
>
> Enquiring behinds want to know.
>
> Casey Keller

tried them when they first came out but don't use them.
Dial (or Lever 2000 for unscented) soap works for me but
any equivalent strong deodorant soap probable will. use
on both shorts and privates. the "deodorant" is really a
bactericide to kill off the little buggers. i first learn
about the stuff in a first aid class. the instructor
recommended it to clean road rash.
<http://ptcl.chem.ox.ac.uk/MSDS/TR/triclosan.html> a
little Noxzema worked into the chamois works for me also.
 
"H. M. Leary" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, "WTF,O"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > "Ken" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > "C Keller" <[email protected]> wrote in
> > > news:Vk65c.23989$es7.9912 @newssvr29.news.prodigy.com:
> > > > BUT (or should that be BUTT?) my dermatologist is
> > > > urging me to
wear
> > some
> > > > to prevent the skin infections I get on multi-day
> > > > rides.
> > >
> > > How about using chamois cream? It's main purpose is to
> > > eliminate infectionson long rides. Assos makes a good
> > > product that is available
in
> > > many bike shops.
> >
> > Ditto. The associated issue is being sure that your butt
> > is clean.
Baby
> > wipes after defecating and a good twice-daily coat of
> > chamois cream on
the
> > shorts will keep your butt in good shape if you're
> > riding all day. The Assos product is the best I've used.
> >
> > Cal
> >
> >
>
> Don¹t you mean A$$O$..??
>
> Now I see PI has $200US cycling shorts, too.
>
> I have several pairs of Patagonia Capaliene(sp) silk
> weight briefs that
seem to
> do the trick.
>
> On tours I can carry two pairs of cycling shorts and 6 or
> 7 pairs of the
briefs.
> Never had a problem.
>
> HAND
>
> --
> ³Freedom Is a Light for Which Many Have Died in Darkness³
>
> - Tomb of the unknown - American Revolution

Whatever keeps your butt in good shape is the right answer.
If someone told me that a handful of sand in their shorts
did the trick for them I'd tell them to continue.

Cal
 
"(Pete Cresswell)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> RE/
> > Are you washing your shorts after every ride? If not,
> > that may be the culprit.
>
> I've got to wonder if "washing" is a good enough spec.
>
> My experience with dress shirts and armpit odor is that
> clothing can become infected with microorganisms over time
> that persist even through some types
of
> commonly-practices "washing".
>
> You've got to "wash" the clothing in such a way that it
> kills the little
buggers
> and simultaneously eliminate said flora from the skin.
>
> One or the other can mitigate things but for a real fix,
> they have to be concurrent.

My understanding of the problem is that body oils bond very
well to synthetics and provide a good medium for bacteria,
which causes the well-known "polyester stink". You can solve
the problem either with antibacterial agents or by
eliminating the oils. Prompt washing limits the set time,
and some washing agents like laundry borax are good at
removing the oils. Some synthetics, like some of the Malden
Mills fleeces, actually incorporate antibacterial agents
(like silver compounds) in the fiber. I've found those
treatments to be very effective.

Skin breaks down quickly if kept damp, especially if exposed
to friction. This is a different problem from stink.
Petroleum jelly and/or lanolin provide a pretty durable
barrier to moisture, and if applied generously, eliminate
most friction. Long distance riders often use such
compounds, including esoteric ones like "bag balm", a
substance originally developed to prevent chapping of cows
udders. The products sold to prevent diaper rash smell
better, are easier to buy, and are probably just as
effective. Powders are generally cornstarch based (rather
than talc) these days, and don't hold up against heavy
sweat, they'll just make a pudding in your shorts.

Pads in shorts vary a lot in style and material. Some are
"synthetic chamois", these are thin, like a sueded leather;
others are thicker, and contain more of a foam type
material. I much prefer the former to the latter for long
rides. The foam type tends to be bulky and bunch up, and the
surface is frequently textured, which I find to make them
more abrasive. The thin pads seem to conform better and
don't move relative to the skin, which is the key to
preventing friction. I tried a product called "Body Glide"
(I think), it was kind of a waxy substance in an applicator
that looked like a smaller version of a deodorant stick (or
a big Chapstick). It seemed to have the effect of gluing the
(thin, smooth) pad to the skin -- not a bad thing, I think,
but I didn't try it on very long (double+) rides as I was
afraid to stray from the tried & true. I've had very good
luck with diaper rash ointments (A&D-type, Vaseline &
lanolin) applied generously at the start & perhaps re-
applied as needed on very long & multi-day rides even in
very hot or very wet weather.
 
neil0502 <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> carlfogel wrote:
> > Dear Wort and Werehatrack, Homer: Marge, you being a
> > cop makes you the man...which makes me the woman. I
> > have no interest in that, besides occasionally wearing
> > the underwear (which, as we discussed, is strictly a
> > comfort thing). Marge: Homer, there's no reason for
> > you to feel threatened. You'll always be the man of
> > this house. Homer: Aw, thanks honey. [they kiss; Homer
> > bends one of his knees coquettishly]
> > http://www.snpp.com/episodes/2F21.html Carl Fogel
>
> I can live with threads that degenerate into arguments
> about politics, gun control, helmet/no helmet, tread/no
> tread, etc.
>
> I can live with these digressions because probability
> dictates that, eventually, somebody will drag out a great
> Simpsons reference that's both germane and poignant.
>
> Thanks, Carl!
>
> btw: I _always_ wear my helmet :D
>
> --

Dear Neil,

And here's the other obvious quotation from the classics in
re this thread:

The old lady, Bart in tow, rings the doorbell at the Simpson
residence.

Homer: Just a minute! [sounds of grunting and paper tearing]
Hello? Belle: Your son was trespassing on my property and
destroyed a very valuable stone gargoyle and... are you
wearing a grocery bag? Homer: I have misplaced my pants.

http://www.snpp.com/episodes/4F06.html

Carl Fogel
 
Thanks for your note, Alex...

Trust me. I'm washing my shorts AND my butt for every ride.

My dermatologist is NOT that familiar with bicycle style. He
is, however, somewhat familiar with skin. He feels that two
layers of cloth rubbing against each other might save some
wear and tear on my ass.

Casey

"Alex Rodriguez" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article
> <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
> >I know, I know. We don't wear underwear under out cycling
> >shorts. BUT (or should that be BUTT?) my dermatologist is
> >urging me to wear
some
> >to prevent the skin infections I get on multi-day rides.
> >I understand a company called Andiamo! makes briefs just
> >for wearing
under
> >your cycling shorts. Does anybody out there have
> >experience with them? Are they comfortable? Enquiring
> >behinds want to know.
>
> I get the impression your dermatologist is not familiar
> with bicycle clothing. Cycling shorts are made the way
> they are for a reason. Using andiamo briefs is not going
> to help. Are you washing your shorts after every ride? If
> not, that may be the culprit.
> ---------------
> Alex
 
I always use a product called Chamois Butt'r and I'm pretty
fastidious about keeping my bum clean.

I don't know if I've ever tried the Assos product. I'll
look into it.

C

"WTF,O" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Ken" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > "C Keller" <[email protected]> wrote in
> > news:Vk65c.23989$es7.9912 @newssvr29.news.prodigy.com:
> > > BUT (or should that be BUTT?) my dermatologist is
> > > urging me to wear
> some
> > > to prevent the skin infections I get on multi-day
> > > rides.
> >
> > How about using chamois cream? It's main purpose is to
> > eliminate infectionson long rides. Assos makes a good
> > product that is available
in
> > many bike shops.
>
> Ditto. The associated issue is being sure that your butt
> is clean. Baby wipes after defecating and a good twice-
> daily coat of chamois cream on the shorts will keep your
> butt in good shape if you're riding all day. The Assos
> product is the best I've used.
>
> Cal
 
neil0502 <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> carlfogel wrote:
> > Dear Wort and Werehatrack, Homer: Marge, you being a
> > cop makes you the man...which makes me the woman. I
> > have no interest in that, besides occasionally wearing
> > the underwear (which, as we discussed, is strictly a
> > comfort thing). Marge: Homer, there's no reason for
> > you to feel threatened. You'll always be the man of
> > this house. Homer: Aw, thanks honey. [they kiss; Homer
> > bends one of his knees coquettishly]
> > http://www.snpp.com/episodes/2F21.html Carl Fogel
>
> I can live with threads that degenerate into arguments
> about politics, gun control, helmet/no helmet, tread/no
> tread, etc.
>
> I can live with these digressions because probability
> dictates that, eventually, somebody will drag out a great
> Simpsons reference that's both germane and poignant.
>
> Thanks, Carl!
>
> btw: I _always_ wear my helmet :D
>
> --

Dear Neil,

And here's the other obvious quotation from the classics in
re this thread:

The old lady, Bart in tow, rings the doorbell at the Simpson
residence.

Homer: Just a minute! [sounds of grunting and paper tearing]
Hello? Belle: Your son was trespassing on my property and
destroyed a very valuable stone gargoyle and... are you
wearing a grocery bag? Homer: I have misplaced my pants.

http://www.snpp.com/episodes/4F06.html

Carl Fogel
 
[email protected] (Carl Fogel) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> neil0502 <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
> > carlfogel wrote:
> > > Dear Wort and Werehatrack, Homer: Marge, you being a
> > > cop makes you the man...which makes me the woman. I
> > > have no interest in that, besides occasionally
> > > wearing the underwear (which, as we discussed, is
> > > strictly a comfort thing). Marge: Homer, there's no
> > > reason for you to feel threatened. You'll always be
> > > the man of this house. Homer: Aw, thanks honey.
> > > [they kiss; Homer bends one of his knees
> > > coquettishly] http://www.snpp.com/episodes/2F21.html
> > > Carl Fogel
> >
> > I can live with threads that degenerate into arguments
> > about politics, gun control, helmet/no helmet, tread/no
> > tread, etc.
> >
> > I can live with these digressions because probability
> > dictates that, eventually, somebody will drag out a
> > great Simpsons reference that's both germane and
> > poignant.
> >
> > Thanks, Carl!
> >
> > btw: I _always_ wear my helmet :D
> >
> > --
>
> Dear Neil,
>
> And here's the other obvious quotation from the classics
> in re this thread:
>
> The old lady, Bart in tow, rings the doorbell at the
> Simpson residence.
>
> Homer: Just a minute! [sounds of grunting and paper
> tearing] Hello? Belle: Your son was trespassing on my
> property and destroyed a very valuable stone gargoyle
> and... are you wearing a grocery bag? Homer: I have
> misplaced my pants.
>
> http://www.snpp.com/episodes/4F06.html
>
> Carl Fogel

stay on topic!:

Marge: Well, at least they're wearing clean underwear.
[cut to Bart's bed at home, where his underwear is still
laid out] [inside the base] Bart: Free and easy,
Lis...aaah. There's nothing like an unfurnished basement
for pure comfort.

<http://www.snpp.com/episodes/3F08.html
 
The only thing that I have not heard is make sure your
shorts are the right size. Going from large to medium shorts
cleared my persistent problems. Now before each ride I
always use chamos creams and spray the pad with a topical
antibacterial solution. After each ride I wash the shorts. I
might get one sore a season now and I ride up to six days a
week with rides of three hours or more. Good luck with
problem. It took me several seasons and a lot of research to
figure out my solution.

C Keller wrote:
> Thanks for your note, Alex...
>
> Trust me. I'm washing my shorts AND my butt for
> every ride.
>
> My dermatologist is NOT that familiar with bicycle style.
> He is, however, somewhat familiar with skin. He feels that
> two layers of cloth rubbing against each other might save
> some wear and tear on my ass.
>
>
> Casey
>
> "Alex Rodriguez" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>In article
>><[email protected]>,
>>[email protected] says...
>>
>>>I know, I know. We don't wear underwear under out cycling
>>>shorts. BUT (or should that be BUTT?) my dermatologist is
>>>urging me to wear
>>
> some
>
>>>to prevent the skin infections I get on multi-day rides.
>>>I understand a company called Andiamo! makes briefs just
>>>for wearing
>>
> under
>
>>>your cycling shorts. Does anybody out there have
>>>experience with them? Are they comfortable? Enquiring
>>>behinds want to know.
>>
>>I get the impression your dermatologist is not familiar
>>with bicycle clothing. Cycling shorts are made the way
>>they are for a reason. Using andiamo briefs is not going
>>to help. Are you washing your shorts after every ride? If
>>not, that may be the culprit.
>>---------------
>>Alex
>>
>
 
C Keller <[email protected]> wrote in message
v%[email protected]
> Thanks for your note, Alex...
>
> Trust me. I'm washing my shorts AND my butt for
> every ride.
>
> My dermatologist is NOT that familiar with bicycle style.
> He is, however, somewhat familiar with skin. He feels that
> two layers of cloth rubbing against each other might save
> some wear and tear on my ass.

Netti make padded cycling undewear which you may find useful
as you can wear them under regular shorts. See http://www.n-
etti.com.au/products/generic/detail.asp?f_CatalogueID=24&f_-
CategoryID=78&f_ProductID=372. Fortunately the product is
way better than the picture. :)

--

"I'm proud that I live in a country where witnessing two
hours of bloody, barbarous torture in gloating detail is
considered indicia of religious piety, whereas a mere second
gazing upon a woman's breast is cause for outraged
apoplexy." Betty Bowers,
http://www.bettybowers.com/melgibsonpassion.html