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PiledHigher said:Anyone know anything, apparently reported on the radio.
wasn't me and was not out riding this morning so as usual "I know nothing" hopefully nothing "serious"PiledHigher said:No idea, sometime b4 9am, was reported 2nd hand, thought that others
may know more.
PiledHigher
the word "accident" is the greatest codswollop spin for any motorised cage occupied by a human crunching anything or anyone...blah said:The P wrote:
>
> How about, a car came alive and went out of control (as opposed to a driver
> lost control of their car as they had a licence they got out of a weetbix
> box and don't know how to drive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Yep; it's usually reported like: "a man was injured as his car left the
road and carreened through a shopping mall". Poor ******* just happened
to be in the driver's seat when this inevitable event happened.
blah said:Yep; it's usually reported like: "a man was injured as his car left the
road and carreened through a shopping mall". Poor ******* just happened
to be in the driver's seat when this inevitable event happened.
Bleve said:PiledHigher wrote:
> > As long as the driver of the car did not intend to cause a collision,
> > it's an accident.
>
>
> But if you are breaking the road rules then it is not an unexpected
> event.
I'd suggest that the vast majority of drivers driving at 5km/h over the
posted speed limit would not be expecting to have a collision because
of it. Even the drunken ******** doing 180km/h down a side street is
still having an accident if they crash. It's only not an accident if
they deliberatly crash.
Contributory negligence has to be taken into account, of course, when
it comes to setting appropriate penalties, but it's still (in the eyes
of a reasonable person) an accident unless there's intent.
Remember, to explain and to understand, is not to condone. Many many
people don't get that rather fundamental point.
Insurance companies and actuaries love the refusal of individuals to take responsibility for their own actions, it gives them great joy and allows them to blow premiums through the roof...of course this is in direct response to courts allowing this nonsense in actions for Tort.giantvaude said:Just because the there is no intent doesn't mean it was an accident. If a certain type of behaviour could be "reasonably" judged to increase the potential for an incident, then it is negligence, and thus not "accidental". With the now long history of driver education (especially the collision speed differential that results from only small differences in initial speed----Wipe of 5), drivers in Victoria can no longer claim that they didn't think that driving over the speed limit, or driving too fast for the conditions was not going to increase the risk. If ride my bike along a footpath, even slowly and carefully, an bowl some old granny over, then it isn't an accident, event tough I was careful and lacked intent. If a driver drives too fast for the conditions, even it is below the speed limit, subsequent events may not be accidental. I think however, that most people don't follow this logic as it places "too much" onous on personal responsibility, which is ironic in this world of individualism.
Pat
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