Date an old Frejus

Discussion in 'Cycling Equipment' started by David L. Johnso, Mar 2, 2003.

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  1. I visited a local charity bike place (the Neighborhood Bikeworks in Philadelphia) that helps kids
    learn to not only repair bikes, but through that to get their own.

    Anyway, sometimes they get donations that are unusual, and this fit the bill. I was particularly
    intrigued, since I own an old Frejus, but this one stumped me.

    The bike was in nearly-new condition, except for one minor rust spot and rotted tires. The
    components were all Campy NR or Record, except for Universal center-pulls. That would have
    suggested to me that it dated before 1970 or so, since it did not have Campy brakes, but I don't
    think so after looking closer. The wheels had campy hubs, Stella estrella (sp? the ones with the
    star stamped on the head) butted spokes (plated), and Fiamme Red Label rims. Tubes are all 531
    according to a decal.

    There is no serial number stamped on the bottom-bracket, like mine has. I did not find a serial
    number, but maybe missed it somewhere.

    The head badge is a decal, not a metal badge. The seat-post binder is not what I associate with
    Frejus, but has the bolt on the inside, in front of the seat tube and below the top tube. I would
    have said that was a Legnano design. It even had a separate bolt with a hole tapped into the lug to
    hold the hanger for the center-pull brake. Mine simply had the hanger attached to the seat-post
    binder bolt.

    I am guessing that this bike was built post '75, after Frejus was acquired by Legnano -- due to the
    mixed-up design and the decal headbadge. The paint and decals look much like mine did before the
    rust came. Aside from the seat lug, all the lugs are pure Frejus.

    Any clue to the vintage of this? Also, any idea of value? If it is post-merger, then I would guess
    its value would be less than if it were earlier, but this mix of styles may have interest.

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    David L. Johnson

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  2. Jim Adney

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    On Sun, 02 Mar 2003 20:40:43 -0500 "David L. Johnson" <David L. Johnson
    <[email protected]>> wrote:

    >The bike was in nearly-new condition, except for one minor rust spot and rotted tires. The
    >components were all Campy NR or Record, except for Universal center-pulls. That would have
    >suggested to me that it dated before 1970 or so, since it did not have Campy brakes,

    The Campy brakes were so expensive that a LOT of bikes were sold with all Campy except for brakes
    for many years afterwards.

    >The seat-post binder is not what I associate with Frejus, but has the bolt on the inside, in front
    >of the seat tube and below the top tube. I would have said that was a Legnano design.

    Says Legano to me, too.

    >I am guessing that this bike was built post '75, after Frejus was acquired by Legnano

    Sounds like a good guess to me, but I didn't even know that Frejus got bought up by Legano. ;-(

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  3. I once dated an old Gios. Blue and cold as steel. :)

    GJ
     
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