Dauphine thread

[bobke]

The breakaway today is all French.
They have a gap of 15 minutes at 3 PM euro time.
Looks like Discovery is giving the jersey away to whomever.
Fun tactics on the road.
Levi, Floyd and all must be looking around at each other.
Disco wants to give the jersey away to make some other team do the chasing on the all flat lead up to Ventoux, which would invite a do or die breakaway, a la Virenque three years ago in the Tour.
Disco tried their new boys legs out yesterday to see how they went--Stign and Noval. Now they want to rest before the big day tomorrow.
We'll see.

 

[MJtje]

TT time today.......who will win, who will disappoint?

This is a big test for armstrong. If he loses (big time) here his rivals will get a physological edge over armstrong. This is a big difference compared to last years mont ventoux TT......This is a 'normal' TT which he always has dominated, and were he always takes time out of his rivals.

Soo how late will he go of the ramp?

The breakaway today is all French.
They have a gap of 15 minutes at 3 PM euro time.
Looks like Discovery is giving the jersey away to whomever.
Fun tactics on the road.
Levi, Floyd and all must be looking around at each other.
Disco wants to give the jersey away to make some other team do the chasing on the all flat lead up to Ventoux, which would invite a do or die breakaway, a la Virenque three years ago in the Tour.
Disco tried their new boys legs out yesterday to see how they went--Stign and Noval. Now they want to rest before the big day tomorrow.
We'll see.

 

[whiteboytrash]

TT time today.......who will win, who will disappoint?

This is a big test for armstrong. If he loses (big time) here his rivals will get a physological edge over armstrong. This is a big difference compared to last years mont ventoux TT......This is a 'normal' TT which he always has dominated, and were he always takes time out of his rivals.

Soo how late will he go of the ramp?

To prove that I am some use here are the start times in CET.... just c&p'd the last few riders.... have even bold typed the top riders..... )

97 14h36 SEVILLA Oscar 16 TMO

98 14h37 AZEVEDO Jose 2 DSC

99 14h38 LANDALUZE Inigo 183 EUS

100 14h39 JAKSCHE Jorg 95 LSW

101 14h40 GILBERT Philippe 45 FDJ

102 14h41 CORTINOVIS Alessandro 191 DOM

103 14h42 SORENSEN Nicki 66 CSC

104 14h43 DESSEL Cyril 205 A2R

105 14h44 TANKINK Bram 86 QST

106 14h45 GUTIERREZ Jose 54 PHO

107 14h46 RUBIERA Jose Luis 8 DSC

108 14h47 SASTRE Carlos 61 CSC

109 14h48 VOGONDY Nicolas 28 C.A

110 14h49 POSTHUMA Joost 106 RAB

111 14h50 FRITSCH Nicolas 171 SDV

112 14h51 GOMEZ MARCHANTE Jose 174 SDV

113 14h52 LANG Sebastian 73 GST

114 14h53 VANDBORG Brian 67 CSC

115 14h54 MAZZOLENI Eddy 166 LAM

116 14h55 GASPAROTTO Enrico 142 LIQ

117 14h56 O'GRADY Stuart 117 COF

118 14h57 ARVESEN Kurt-Asle 62 CSC

119 14h58 GONZALEZ DE GAL Igor 94 LSW

120 14h59 KLODEN Andreas 13 TMO

121 15h00 ROBERTS Luke 65 CSC

122 15h01 BRUSEGHIN Marzio 123 FAS

123 15h02 POPOVYCH Yaroslav 7 DSC

124 15h03 ROUS Didier 138 BTL

125 15h04 GRIVKO Andriy 193 DOM

126 15h05 PINEAU Jerome 131 BTL

127 15h06 HERAS Roberto 91 LSW

128 15h07 JALABERT Nicolas 56 PHO

129 15h08 ASTARLOZA Mikel 202 A2R

130 15h09 PAULINHO Sergio 97 LSW

131 15h10 CANADA David 173 SDV

132 15h11 MONCOUTIE David 116 COF

133 15h12 MENCHOV Denis 101 RAB

134 15h13 NUYENS Nick 83 QST

135 15h14 GIUNTI Massimo 126 FAS

136 15h15 MOREAU Christophe 21 C.A

137 15h17 FLECHA Juan Antonio 121 FAS

138 15h19 HUSHOVD Thor 23 C.A

139 15h21 VERBRUGGHE Rik 88 QST

140 15h23 HUNTER Robert 55 PHO

141 15h25 VINOKOUROV Alexandre 11 TMO

142 15h27 BOTERO Santiago 51 PHO

143 15h29 LARA RUIZ Francisco Jose 15 TMO

144 15h31 REBELLIN Davide 75 GST

145 15h33 GUTIERREZ Ivan 35 IBA

146 15h35 CONTADOR Alberto 92 LSW

147 15h37 PEREIRO Oscar 58 PHO

148 15h39 ARMSTRONG Lance 1 DSC

149 15h41 LANDIS Floyd 57 PHO

150 15h43 KASHECHKIN Andrey 25 C.A

151 15h45 LEIPHEIMER Levi 71 GST

152 15h47 HINCAPIE George 5 DSC

153 15h49 BESSY Frederic 112 COF

154 15h51 CHARTEAU Anthony 132 BTL

155 15h53 FINOT Frederic 44 FDJ

156 15h55 DUMOULIN Samuel 206 A2R

 

[MJtje]

Hehe youre learning My rants do help.....tnx

To prove that I am some use here are the start times in CET.... just c&p'd the last few riders.... have even bold typed the top riders..... )

97 14h36 SEVILLA Oscar 16 TMO

98 14h37 AZEVEDO Jose 2 DSC

99 14h38 LANDALUZE Inigo 183 EUS

100 14h39 JAKSCHE Jorg 95 LSW

101 14h40 GILBERT Philippe 45 FDJ

102 14h41 CORTINOVIS Alessandro 191 DOM

103 14h42 SORENSEN Nicki 66 CSC

104 14h43 DESSEL Cyril 205 A2R

105 14h44 TANKINK Bram 86 QST

106 14h45 GUTIERREZ Jose 54 PHO

107 14h46 RUBIERA Jose Luis 8 DSC

108 14h47 SASTRE Carlos 61 CSC

109 14h48 VOGONDY Nicolas 28 C.A

110 14h49 POSTHUMA Joost 106 RAB

111 14h50 FRITSCH Nicolas 171 SDV

112 14h51 GOMEZ MARCHANTE Jose 174 SDV

113 14h52 LANG Sebastian 73 GST

114 14h53 VANDBORG Brian 67 CSC

115 14h54 MAZZOLENI Eddy 166 LAM

116 14h55 GASPAROTTO Enrico 142 LIQ

117 14h56 O'GRADY Stuart 117 COF

118 14h57 ARVESEN Kurt-Asle 62 CSC

119 14h58 GONZALEZ DE GAL Igor 94 LSW

120 14h59 KLODEN Andreas 13 TMO

121 15h00 ROBERTS Luke 65 CSC

122 15h01 BRUSEGHIN Marzio 123 FAS

123 15h02 POPOVYCH Yaroslav 7 DSC

124 15h03 ROUS Didier 138 BTL

125 15h04 GRIVKO Andriy 193 DOM

126 15h05 PINEAU Jerome 131 BTL

127 15h06 HERAS Roberto 91 LSW

128 15h07 JALABERT Nicolas 56 PHO

129 15h08 ASTARLOZA Mikel 202 A2R

130 15h09 PAULINHO Sergio 97 LSW

131 15h10 CANADA David 173 SDV

132 15h11 MONCOUTIE David 116 COF

133 15h12 MENCHOV Denis 101 RAB

134 15h13 NUYENS Nick 83 QST

135 15h14 GIUNTI Massimo 126 FAS

136 15h15 MOREAU Christophe 21 C.A

137 15h17 FLECHA Juan Antonio 121 FAS

138 15h19 HUSHOVD Thor 23 C.A

139 15h21 VERBRUGGHE Rik 88 QST

140 15h23 HUNTER Robert 55 PHO

141 15h25 VINOKOUROV Alexandre 11 TMO

142 15h27 BOTERO Santiago 51 PHO

143 15h29 LARA RUIZ Francisco Jose 15 TMO

144 15h31 REBELLIN Davide 75 GST

145 15h33 GUTIERREZ Ivan 35 IBA

146 15h35 CONTADOR Alberto 92 LSW

147 15h37 PEREIRO Oscar 58 PHO

148 15h39 ARMSTRONG Lance 1 DSC

149 15h41 LANDIS Floyd 57 PHO

150 15h43 KASHECHKIN Andrey 25 C.A

151 15h45 LEIPHEIMER Levi 71 GST

152 15h47 HINCAPIE George 5 DSC

153 15h49 BESSY Frederic 112 COF

154 15h51 CHARTEAU Anthony 132 BTL

155 15h53 FINOT Frederic 44 FDJ

156 15h55 DUMOULIN Samuel 206 A2R

 

[whiteboytrash]

Everyone needs to be kept in control ! (including me !) Would you be so brave to put forward a top 3 for today ?

Me:

1. Landis
2. Armstrong
3. Kloden

Hehe youre learning My rants do help.....tnx

 

[MJtje]

1) Armstrong
2) Landis
3) Leipheimer

Lol and that for a dutch guy..........why can't we TT! T. Dekker needs to hurry up.......(THE future for a dutch stage racer)

Everyone needs to be kept in control ! (including me !) Would you be so brave to put forward a top 3 for today ?

Me:

1. Landis
2. Armstrong
3. Kloden

 

[Eldrack]

Hmm. Armstrong will probably ride quite hard today, needs to prove to himself that he is in good ITT form for the tour. Be interesting to see how Hincapie and Landis do though. Armstrong to win though.

 

[whiteboytrash]

Brave ! Also interesting for TTT is to see how Botero, Vino and Popy go..... Agreed Dekker is very promising... needs another two tears but TT'ing is very good and is aggressive..... I saw him race earlier this year in the Criturem International.... very good.....

anyone else with a tip for today ? Winner gets a years supply of serviettes....

1) Armstrong
2) Landis
3) Leipheimer

Lol and that for a dutch guy..........why can't we TT! T. Dekker needs to hurry up.......(THE future for a dutch stage racer)

 

[whiteboytrash]

* QUICK UPDATE *

The sun is out in Roanne but the southerly wind is pretty refreshing. It is blowing at around 30km/h with gusts reaching 50km/h. The riders should be able to use it to their benefit at places.

 

[bobke]

* QUICK UPDATE *

The sun is out in Roanne but the southerly wind is pretty refreshing. It is blowing at around 30km/h with gusts reaching 50km/h. The riders should be able to use it to their benefit at places.

Levi is a good time trialist but hs never doen spectacularly in the TTs in the Tour. On the other hand I think FLoyd killed the last TT in 2004 TdF. And there is Botero. If Lance is within 20 seconds and top three I think he can say he is progressing.

The inside word is that he has progressed a lot, is climbing very well, but is unproven, still the inside word favor Lance in a huge way. We'll see.

 

[whiteboytrash]

* QUICK UPDATE* for those without web or TV..... read bottom up !

Alexandre Vinokourov (T-Mobile) has set the best time at the second check - 45'17.

16:14 </IMG> LANCE ARMSTRONG HAS ONLY THE SECOND BEST TIME AT THE FIRST TIME CHECK, AHEAD OF VINOKOUROV BUT BEHIND BOTERO!

16:14 </IMG> Marzio Bruseghin (Fassa Bortolo) has just set the new best time at the finish: 1'01'20. Second is Sébastien Lang at 1'01'25 and third is Didier Rous with 1'02'32.

16:12 Phonak's Santiago Botero has just ripped off a huge 16 seconds off the Vinokourov's first time-check effort. He's been on good early-season form this year has Santiago, looking nice in the Tour of Catalunya, and winning the Tour of Romandy.

 

[MJtje]

1) Botero 1:00:06 2) armstrong 1:00:32

Soooo leipheimer is really going for it........he may be the only one under the hour..

* QUICK UPDATE* for those without web or TV..... read bottom up !

Alexandre Vinokourov (T-Mobile) has set the best time at the second check - 45'17.

16:14 </IMG> LANCE ARMSTRONG HAS ONLY THE SECOND BEST TIME AT THE FIRST TIME CHECK, AHEAD OF VINOKOUROV BUT BEHIND BOTERO!

16:14 </IMG> Marzio Bruseghin (Fassa Bortolo) has just set the new best time at the finish: 1'01'20. Second is Sébastien Lang at 1'01'25 and third is Didier Rous with 1'02'32.

16:12 Phonak's Santiago Botero has just ripped off a huge 16 seconds off the Vinokourov's first time-check effort. He's been on good early-season form this year has Santiago, looking nice in the Tour of Catalunya, and winning the Tour of Romandy.

 

[MJtje]

1 Botero 2 Leipheimer 3 Armstrong 4 Landis.

I think this is a good result for armstrong given he only has done 2 TT's. Don't forget 2002 were Botero also won the TT in the dauphine als in the tour btw.

Botero is also not really a threat for the tour.....he's to inconsistent. Leipheimer can't go with the best over the mountains..........so I think a good day. I'm suprised vino lost so much...

 

[whiteboytrash]

NO!! LEIPHEIMER CANNOT OUST BOTERO FROM THE TOP!!! He finishes second, and Armstrong third. Santiago Botero will be today's winner and new leader of the Dauphiné Libéré!!



16:50 :
Classement des 4 premiers:
1. Santiago Botero (Phonak): 1'00'06
2. Levi Leipheimer (Gerolsteiner) : 1'00'07
3. Lance Armstrong (Discovery Channel) : 1'00'32
4. Flyod Landis (Phonak) : 1'00'45

1 Botero 2 Leipheimer 3 Armstrong 4 Landis.

I think this is a good result for armstrong given he only has done 2 TT's. Don't forget 2002 were Botero also won the TT in the dauphine als in the tour btw.

Botero is also not really a threat for the tour.....he's to inconsistent. Leipheimer can't go with the best over the mountains..........so I think a good day. I'm suprised vino lost so much...

 

[patch70]

What happened to Heras, Kloden & Menchov? I wonder how hard they were trying.

 

[MJtje]

Thrust me they were going full out......no point in holding back in TT. This was a test for every TDF contender. It's looking good

What happened to Heras, Kloden & Menchov? I wonder how hard they were trying.

 

[whiteboytrash]

What is intresting was the amount of Phonek riders in the top 15.... looking good for TTT........ poppy well off the pace.... H'capie lookng good thou.....

Thrust me they were going full out......no point in holding back in TT. This was a test for every TDF contender. It's looking good

 

[MJtje]

Popo stomach bug..........Phonak good though, however Botero is NO contender.....

What is intresting was the amount of Phonek riders in the top 15.... looking good for TTT........ poppy well off the pace.... H'capie lookng good thou.....

 

[whiteboytrash]

Anyone read what Ladis said about riders who have stomach bug in Cycle Sport magazine ? ........FOS

Vino good ride as well.... he has never been that close to Armstrong before.... although Armstrong was a bit slow but looks in good form.... Heres overcooked it again and needs to gain about 27 minutes in the mountains.....

Popo stomach bug..........Phonak good though, however Botero is NO contender.....

 

[Bjorn P.Dal]

whiteboytrash=> what does FOS mean?