Dear Jeff, Bart, Ewoud, Benjo and Kenny

[Mike Owens]

1. Wesemann was strong up until pulling out of de Panne and then Flanders.
Is he healthy yet? Sunday's upcoming mudfest suits him when he's ready.

2. Bettini with mononucleosis? Is this a sports reporter's diagnosis or is
his season basically over already?

3. Pozzato finished 3 minutes down in G-W. No major injuries I presume?

4. Anything else interesting leading up to Sunday?
Thanks
-Mike

 

[Ewoud Dronkert]

On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 10:36:36 -0400, Mike Owens wrote:
> 1. Wesemann was strong up until pulling out of de Panne and then Flanders.
> Is he healthy yet?

Dunno. No mention on http://www.t-mobile-team.com/ or
http://sport.ard.de/sp/radsport/ (pretty nasty string of reports there:
Ullrich weak at timetrial, Klöden DNF, Klier run down, Hondo positive).

> 3. Pozzato finished 3 minutes down in G-W. No major injuries I presume?

Prolly not, he was just thrown back from the lead group after a fall
with Backstedt.

> 4. Anything else interesting leading up to Sunday?

Forecast: 8 deg.C, wind W-NW 3-4 Bft, variable cloudiness with rain
showers.


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[Ewoud Dronkert]

On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 10:36:36 -0400, Mike Owens wrote:
> 4. Anything else interesting leading up to Sunday?

Van Heeswijk out, not fully recovered from tooth and jaw infection
earlier. He already dnf-ed in G-W (after 20 km) en RVV.

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[Robert Chung]

Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> http://sport.ard.de/sp/radsport/ (pretty nasty string of reports there:
> Ullrich weak at timetrial,

Results from the Angers ITT from cyclingnews.com:
1 Florent Brard (Fra) Agritubel 10.33
2 Sylvain Chavanel (Fra) Cofidis 0.02
3 Markus Fohten (Ger) Gerolsteiner 0.07
4 Alberto Martinez (Spa) Agritubel 0.10
5 Jurgen Van Den Broeck (Bel) Discovery Channel 0.12
6 Volodymyr Bileka (Ukr) Discovery Channel 0.13
7 Uwe Peschel (Ger) Gerolsteiner 0.14
8 Tomas Vaitkus (Ltu) AG2R Prévoyance 0.15
9 Eddy Seigneur (Fra) RAGT Semences - MG Rover 0.16
10 Fumiyuki Beppu (Jpn) Discovery Channel
11 Laurent Brochard (Fra) Bouygues Télécom 0.17
12 Michael Barry (Can) Discovery Channel 0.20
13 Jan Ullrich (Ger) T- Mobile Team 0.21

How often has a rider from Japan finished ahead of Ullrich in a TT?

 

[benjo maso]

"Ewoud Dronkert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 10:36:36 -0400, Mike Owens wrote:
>> 1. Wesemann was strong up until pulling out of de Panne and then
>> Flanders.
>> Is he healthy yet?
>
> Dunno. No mention on http://www.t-mobile-team.com/ or
> http://sport.ard.de/sp/radsport/ (pretty nasty string of reports there:
> Ullrich weak at timetrial, Klöden DNF, Klier run down, Hondo positive).
>
>> 3. Pozzato finished 3 minutes down in G-W. No major injuries I presume?
>
> Prolly not, he was just thrown back from the lead group after a fall
> with Backstedt.

And thursday morning he resumed training

Benjo

 

[Tom Kunich]

"Robert Chung" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> 10 Fumiyuki Beppu (Jpn) Discovery Channel
>
> How often has a rider from Japan finished ahead of Ullrich in a TT?

When was the last time Johan Bruyneel hired one?

 

[Tom Kunich]

"Ewoud Dronkert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 10:36:36 -0400, Mike Owens wrote:
>> 4. Anything else interesting leading up to Sunday?
>
> Van Heeswijk out, not fully recovered from tooth and jaw infection
> earlier. He already dnf-ed in G-W (after 20 km) en RVV.

Any word on why Hincapie DNF'd G-W?

 

[DA74]

Tom Kunich wrote:
> When was the last time Johan Bruyneel hired one?
> Any word on why Hincapie DNF'd G-W?

Notice how you're being ignored? You weren't invited. Take a hint and
quit asking them questions. Start your own thread and watch that get
ignored.

You're welcome Mike et. al.
-Sheriff DA74

 

[Ewoud Dronkert]

On 7 Apr 2005 19:11:20 -0700, DA74 wrote:
> You're welcome Mike et. al.

Did you drop out of college to pursue a career on bike racing?


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[DA74]

Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> Did you drop out of college to
> pursue a career on bike racing?

Close. I got bored during post-doc. That's why I've been "on bike
racing"
-DA74

PS...I never commended you for your flowery alliteration last time we
spoke. So be commended. If you need a refresher:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/5a322f6f95cc4d4b

 

[Ewoud Dronkert]

On 7 Apr 2005 19:41:10 -0700, DA74 wrote:
> "on bike racing"

Yeah, in. On could be right though, you tell me.


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[DA74]

Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> On 7 Apr 2005 19:41:10 -0700, DA74 wrote:
> > "on bike racing"
>
> Yeah, in. On could be right though, you tell me.
>

Ewoud,

I've got to stay in character so let me give you a tutorial with
subjects I am familiar with and names you know.

There aren't too many instances where the phrase would be correct. For
it to be correct, "On" would be defined as "concerning" or "about".
Therefore, "on bike racing" would only be correct in a sentence such
as:

"In his excitement after reading Jet's post congratulating him about
the Armstrong court brief, Phildo spewed chubb juice all over the pages
of the magazine which, not suprisingly, was filled topics centering on
bike racing for overweight novices."

"In bike racing" can be used pretty much everywhere else.

-Dr. DA74

 

[Kenny]

Mike Owens wrote:
> 1. Wesemann was strong up until pulling out of de Panne and then
Flanders.
> Is he healthy yet? Sunday's upcoming mudfest suits him when he's
ready.

He'll start but he didn't ride much since the 3Days of De Panne.
Ivanov seems to have a light flu. Klier is out with bruises and
stitches in his knee.

Boonen's hand did recover well. So he'll definitely start.

The chances Hammond participates are very low because of a burst in his
thumb and a sprained ankle.
(http://www.sportwereld.be/Article/Detail.aspx?ArticleID=GGVDUKLU)

> 2. Bettini with mononucleosis? Is this a sports reporter's
diagnosis or is
> his season basically over already?
No idea.

> 3. Pozzato finished 3 minutes down in G-W. No major injuries I
presume?

He trained on thursday, so i guess not.
(http://www.quickstepcycling.com/content/news.aspx?id=1180)

> 4. Anything else interesting leading up to Sunday?
> Thanks
> -Mike

Secteur pavée 7 at KM133 is the one replacing Wallers-Arenberg. "Le
Hameau du Buat" is 1700m long; the first 500m have a gradient of 8%.
(http://www.sportwereld.be/Article/Detail.aspx?ArticleID=GGVDUKM7)

Oh, and VDB's goal at P-R is trying to make it to the ravitaillement of
Solesmes at KM 103.
(http://www.sportwereld.be/Article/Detail.aspx?ArticleID=GGVDUKMG)

Kenny

 

[Stig Are M. Botterli]

On 2005-04-08, Kenny <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Secteur pavée 7 at KM133 is the one replacing Wallers-Arenberg. "Le
> Hameau du Buat" is 1700m long; the first 500m have a gradient of 8%.
> (http://www.sportwereld.be/Article/Detail.aspx?ArticleID=GGVDUKM7)

I like what Stuart O'Grady has to say in his April 8 update: "...the new
sections are ridiculously hard. It's going to be the hardest Roubaix yet.
The roads are in terrible condition. This is really is going to be the Hell
of the North."

(http://www.stuartogrady.com.au/ogrady.html, flash required)

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[benjo maso]

"Stig Are M. Botterli" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 2005-04-08, Kenny <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Secteur pavée 7 at KM133 is the one replacing Wallers-Arenberg. "Le
>> Hameau du Buat" is 1700m long; the first 500m have a gradient of 8%.
>> (http://www.sportwereld.be/Article/Detail.aspx?ArticleID=GGVDUKM7)
>
> I like what Stuart O'Grady has to say in his April 8 update: "...the new
> sections are ridiculously hard. It's going to be the hardest Roubaix yet.
> The roads are in terrible condition. This is really is going to be the
> Hell
> of the North."


The funny thing is that "the Hell of the North" had hardly anyting to do
with the condition of the roads. The expression was coined by a journalist
of l'Auto in is report of Paris-Roubaix 1919, just after the war, when the
weather was abominable, and the landscape through which the riders passed
made a desolate impression with its many craters, ruined houses and charred
trees. The notorious cobblestones did not play a significant role, and they
were hardly even mentioned in the newspaper accounts.

Benjo Maso

 

[Jenko]

benjo maso wrote:
>
> The notorious cobblestones did not play a significant role, and they
> were hardly even mentioned in the newspaper accounts.

Was it because the cobbled roads were the "good" roads back then?

Jenko

 

[benjo maso]

"Jenko" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> benjo maso wrote:
>>
>> The notorious cobblestones did not play a significant role, and they were
>> hardly even mentioned in the newspaper accounts.
>
> Was it because the cobbled roads were the "good" roads back then?

No, the best roads were macadam roads. But it's true that they were
relatively scarce in the North of France. However, in fixing the route,
Victor Breyer, the creator of Paris-Roubaix, used them as much as possble.
He wanted to make Paris-Roubaix as easy as possible, because he saw it as a
training for really difficult races, as Bordeaux-Paris. The 'Belgian blocks',
as the worst cobbles were called at the time, were to be found only during
the last thirty kilometres, but they did not present much of a problem
because the cyclists were allowed to make ample use of the pavements. Breyer
would certainly have been shocked by the idea of leading the racers along
the passage through the Wallers-Aremberg Woods.In other words: today's
Paris-Roubaix is a reconstruction of a past that never existed.
Benjo Maso