OO wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm currently entering the late stages of my Galloway schedule, and I have started looking at the
> Runner's World online marathon calendar to see which races are available. This will be my first
> marathon.
>
> I'm in CA and love the Death Valley, so one race in particular catches my eye: The Death Valley
> Trail marathon on 07 Feb 04. I read that this race has a steep opening, but that does not
> intimidate me as much as the fact that I have done nearly no running on unpaved surfaces.
> Considering this, would it be a "bad idea" for me to try as my first marathon? Does it have a
> relatively high difficulty?
>
> Thanks, OO
I've not done the DVTM and have only done a few short trail races, but run predominantly on trails.
So take that as a warning that I'm a beginner on a learning curve, but some experience thinking /
planning / training for trail races
(Most of our trail races are in summer when I'm in field.)
Short answer: It could be an excellent first marathon *IF* (notice the really big IF) you have been
doing hill work and are used to carrying food / fluid with you. That is, have done more running than
typical 1st time marathoners. There's still 2 months to train (actually 5 wks and taper), but
registration is likely to fill soon (4-8 wks out).
Other than that you're nearing end of Galloway marathon schedule and run mostly roads, you haven't
given us too much background on your running. Is this using run/walk approach in your schedule
and/or goal? Do you have years of road running and racing experience and have only judged progress
by pace, rather than effort? Do you have extensive hill work in your training program? I'll assume
yes / medium / some for answers.
Some long-winded thoughts.
First rule of trail races: enjoy the event and the environment
I looked at some of the pics of
the race, and it looks like it should be a lot of fun - a LOT more interesting than something
like Badwater.
Second rule: Forget about road-running paces. You will generally be a little slower on a gravel road
compared with paved road. When you go up and over that hill at mid-course, you will be going even
slower. Walking is not a sin. In fact, stopping briefly to look at scenery is not a sin. Some
landscapes just take one's breath away.
Learn to run by effort, rather than pace, if you haven't already learned that.
Third: Don't expect the "amenities" of road races - course may be long/short, probably no mile/km
markers, aid stations will be farther apart and possibly less well stocked.
The course description says aid every 5 miles, and general statements by the race organizers suggest
this race has minimal support, typical of trail races. [This is not something against race
management - just something to be aware of. Our Alaskan trail races have none, usually. We bring our
own food / fluid.] I noticed one runner commented that mile 15 was out of water when they got there
- this is *not* good on race mgmnt's part. But plan accordingly. It doesn't sound like temperatures
would be outrageous (30-70F, probably, from what I saw). But have a feeling for your hydration
(+electrolytes) and possible time between aid stations, and whether you need 1 or 2 bottle waist
pack or hydration bladder. Different people have preferences for what works for them, considering
how much fluid you may need.
Topography comments:
http://www.envirosports.com/exec/enviro/Calendar.cfm?pageid=1060&TemplateID=62-
&eventID=1064&publicationID=42
"The Marathon climbs 2,300 feet in the first 12 miles, then descends 5,000 feet over the last
14 miles."
I looked at the course map, which has some relief indicated, but not contours. I'd get a contour map
of the area or an elevation profile, if available. It looks like the first 1/3 is relatively flat,
then ascends over a mountain, then back down. While they indicate 2300ft/12miles = about 200 ft/mi
up, which isn't too bad, you may find it's 20ft/mi up for the first few miles, then 500ft/mi or more
up when you get into the mountains. I don't know - I'm just guessing from the look of their map.
Similar situation on way down - avg 360 ft/mi but I'm guessing there'll be steeper downhill
sections. The fact that it's a "jeep" road (it looks like some of our regular roads
suggests
there won't be any 50% hills, eroded gullies, etc.
What I do where I can't mimic the course on my training trails, is try to identify the longest
uphill and the steepest portions and about how long - either from topo map or scoping the trail.
I'll then do (1) hill repeats (aerobic effort level, duration appropriate to how big the steep
pitches are) on my normal trails that have slopes similar to the steepest portion and (2) long hill
runs on trails or dirt roads that have similar amounts of uphill, even if a lower gradient. I'll
alternate weeks for these workouts. I'm just a beginner so I try to cherry pick my training. An
experienced trail runner would just be able to run a trail a include all that in there.
Note that hill work consists of both up and down. Your quads will need the strength on the
downhills. It is a net downhill course.
The footing looks easy (at least what's in the pics I looked at) so the difference between trail and
road may not be that big a deal. From what I saw, I think the hills, esp. the downhill, might be
more of an issue.
In my un-informed opinion, this could be a really great first-time marathon, esp. considering the
scenery and lack of crowds - *IF* you do the necessary hill work, understand and execute energy
management on hills, and don't mind carrying food / fluid (and have done it in training). Excellent
scenery! If you're not having any problems with the schedule you're on and you're doing Galloway
run/walk, then plan your walks for the extended or steep uphills rather than at fixed intervals,
which are really only useful on flat roads. Practice this ahead of time on hills and gravel roads.
Practice carrying all the gear you might need on the route. Be aware of the 6-hr cutoff, which I'm
guessing is reasonably adequate for running or run/walking (probably not for straight walkers) the
course, based on other cutoff times I've seen.
If you expect coddling (=mile markers, extensive aid, cheering crowds), then I'd avoid this. (you
sounded like you were probably looking for something out of the way anyway, but thought I'd add
this note)
It's also possible that it might be a little more than what you're ready for this year - it just
depends on how solid your training is until now and whether you've been doing hills, carrying stuff,
etc. It *will* take more prep than a typical marathon, but it doesn't sound un-doable for a beginner
who puts in the training. And there's still 2 months to train. Or if it's too tight for this year,
think next year. I'm not sure what other choices you were considering. We've got a marathon with
almost 4000ft of hills in it (although various sized hills spread through the course, rather than
one mtn to get over), and people do that as a first marathon. Most of the runners respect the course
and do the training and have fun.
Just as another note, if you go back and look at some of the race reports, you'll find the people
that have done the homework for the topography of their course laugh at the hills in their races.
Those that don't train appropriately get their butts kicked. And it doesn't matter what their
experience level!
Enjoy! It looks like it would be a blast if properly prepared for!
Maybe some of the CA trail runners know more and can give you better ideas. Like I said, I'm just
going by the course description and my observations, limited as they are.
Good luck.
Dot
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