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  1. Bro Deal

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    DeCanio sounding a little less angry and a little more lucid than usual:

    Deplorable Conditions.

    So many cycling fans around the world are getting up to ride their bikes today and to check out the latest in the news about cycling trying to find something good to improve their mood and to take their minds off the stresses in their work and what do they read? More about doping in cycling. Many are saying just get over it, everyone dopes let me just enjoy my sport, and many are saying this is b.s. I am tired of cycling and things need to change!

    What is really going on? Well the truth of what is really going on is getting through on a very limited basis. You have those on the outside telling everyone that nothing is changing and you have the feel gooders telling you everything is improving. Ask yourself, “If we could trust the cycling media, wouldn’t From Lance to Landis be sold on VeloNews?” No it can’t be sold there because we are being manipulated by the system. I spoke to VeloNews and they said that they were scared of getting sued.

    So now we have a system that is controlled by dishonest rich dopers with powerful lawyers who will do everything to stay in power and they will sell everyone out, and it doesn’t matter of the next generation fall to the wayside in either their anti-doping education or protection!

    Go ahead people and blame the next doping positive on that man who wants to keep you down. That man is Lance Armstrong, and let’s not forget Tomas Weisel the owner of USA Cycling who are basically one.

    These are the ones who are doping, covering up doping, or know it exists and their only purpose in life is to keep the system going, financially productive, and to stay in power. They will do anything to remain on top, and they will do everything including making sure you are fired or homeless to be on top.

    Lance Armstrong told Prentice Steffen that he was going to take his house and take down Vaughters’ team if he didn’t retract his statements for Christ’s sake! Prentice Steffen didn’t write a word of his retraction statement. Dr. Steffen was correct, the USPS was supporting the use of EPO and the firing of him is proof. The American public was manipulated by the corrupt persons, LANCE ARMSTRONG and MARK GORSKI.

    The same man who fired him Mark Gorski was a member of the 1984 Olympic Team that was blood doping, and he fired a man who was against blood doping. Do the math, and if Mark Gorski didn’t support doping, why would he testify on behalf of Adham Sbeih who tested positive for the use of EPO?

    And yet the cycling base will smile in the face of Gorski and sport the USPS jersey or Discovery jersey with pride. WAKE UP!!! Can you hear me?

    The problem is the underlying reoccurring nightmare stems from the evil and corruption in humanity and those who will do anything for success. These are the same people who are doping and the same people who eventually come into power to tell you the system is improving.

    Wake up America! Look at the situation with Rock Racing! Here you have Frankie Andreu who was fired by Toyota United after he testified against Lance Armstrong in the SCA Promotions Trial. Did you know that Sean Tucker who runs the Toyota United Pro Cycling Team has ties in the past with Armstrong? From 1994-1995 while racing as a professional cyclist, Tucker served as President of MG Sports Marketing, where he created and implemented various sports marketing programs for companies. In addition, he secured sponsorship deals and speaking engagements for a variety of athletes, including Indy car champion Scott Pruett and then newly-crowned world road cycling champion Lance Armstrong.

    And you wonder why Frankie got fired while trying to clean up cycling?????!!!!!!!!!

    So Frankie battles back and continues to oppose doping and joins Rock Racing only to be undercut again by another sponsor who is sympathetic to doping.

    Michael Ball has knowing allowed Kayle Leogrande to continue racing even after failing an EPO test and after his rider admitted to the use of EPO to members of his team.

    Rock Racing is secretly supporting doping period. So moving on to Toyota United, who also has doping riders on their team, as one rider has admitted to me in person that he is, “No angel and that he will be doing whatever he has to do in 2008.” So scratch off Toyota United for being some kind of model program against doping. They are part of the problem, just as many other pro teams are even though that is not what they tell you in the media.

    Moving on to Kelly Benefit Systems and Slipstream, yes you have 2 clean programs or teams that are trying to be clean, yet they will not hire me, a rider who is obviously more than qualified to race as a pro cyclist either because of an anti-doping website as in the case of KBS or because I have been out of the sport for too long. Please keep in mind I asked to be tested in a lab and if my numbers couldn’t beat riders on the team, I wouldn’t ask to be added. Still I got no response and I am sidelined, unable to race to help clean up the sport.

    Is my non-hiring to Slipstream because I didn’t get along with riders in the past in the media such as David Zabriskie who was quoted in the Salt Lake Tribune Article that I was part of a group who were “Bitter Crackpots”, yet lets not forget after David bashed us in the media, his friend and training partner Floyd Landis tested positive and David’s teammate Ivan Basso were pulled from the Tour de France.

    Or am I not riding because Christian Vandevelde doesn’t want me there who told me on the national team that I shouldn’t be talking about doping way back in 1997 when I was trying to write for USA Cycling about the doping that was happening on my team in Italy? Or maybe that Christian feels uncomfortable because in the past he told me that everything I witnessed in Italy was spot on and that he was going to see if riders were dying from the doping to make his decision. Christian is a part of that 1999 Tour de France team that we saw Frankie Andreu admit to using EPO because he couldn’t keep up and the same 1999 tour where Armstrong’s “B” samples still came up POSITIVE.

    Then you have Tom Danielson on the team who basically came out of nowhere to dominate the racing scene from a struggling mountain bike racer to a grand tour rider with the help of Rick Crawford, a coach who has admitted to having his riders use blood spinners in the past in a heated email confrontation claiming, “Is that all you got?” When David Clinger told me in confidence that Crawford had asked him to purchase blood spinners to be used in conjunction with doping.

    But still Tom is moving onto an anti-doping team to prove that he doesn’t want to dope and wants to prove that he is clean, now pointing the finger to Johan Bruneel, and saying to me at Interbike, “That is the guy you have to go after.” Bravo Danielson for telling us where to go but we already knew that.

    Too bad Trek Bicycles which who hasn’t purchased one, is the first to jump on board to sponsor a team wrapped in doping controversy in the past with Vino testing positive for blood transfusions and Astana constantly turning a blind eye to keep doping riders on their team and competing.

    But should we trust that Trek Bikes has the best intentions for the sport of cycling? Not when secretly recorded conversations involving Greg Lemond surface with Oakley Rep Stephanie McIlvain talking about Armstrong admitting to using 5 performance-enhancing drugs in the hospital room to hear about the phone calls Greg received when he made comments in the media about Lance Armstrong and him working with a doctor who was later found guilty of teaching riders how to use EPO. Yes that man is Dr. Ferrari, and Trek Bikes might as well sponsor him too. He would be a good guy to have on that bike, after he got out of jail for teaching riders to use EPO.

    Was Greg wrong then? No, and he isn’t wrong now. Yet, everyone jumps on the Armstrong 7 tour band wagon and blindly supports a man, whose own cancer growth could have been caused by doping and accelerated by the use of EPO as new medical documents are proving. How quick everyone forgets the true tour champion? Or how quickly everyone lumps Lemond in with the rest of the dopers. Do you not know that Lemond had a VO2 max of over 90? Even Aerospace Engineering was quick to tell me that Lemond was a doper, and that the manager had Armstrong’s and Bruneel’s phone number in his phone.

    DO I CARE?

    Greg Lemond can’t sponsor me, because of a bind that he could lose his bicycle company because Trek doesn’t want anyone to talk bad about Armstrong because he sells a lot of bikes. Well stop buying the bikes people, because ultimately are the ones to blame for the sport being destroyed because now you know.

    The industry is run by people who support doping period. The cycling fans are blinded by the industry and support doping by default. The anti-dopers are kicked out of the sport, and the sport stays filled with doping. The next generation grows up and gets an education behind the scenes that if you want to be a pro rider you must dope. Do you really think that the Olympic Training Center is teaching athletes to avoid doping? Do you really think their is really an anti-doping educational system in place now? HELL NO THERE ISN’T.

    The USOC knows what is going on and in the past they have supported doping proven to us by Dr. Exum, who has gone against everyone including Travis Tygart believe it or not who once protected the lies told by the United States Olympic Committee.

    SO DO YOU REALLY FEEL SAFE WITH USADA KNOWING THAT?

    If you think things are changing guess again. Nothing is changing and nothing will until you see changes.

    We need to see that USA Cycling is admitting their faults of the past and pulls Eddie B [who told a member of the SU team when asked if he is the father of blood doping in America, “Yes, I am” a week ago at a track in California], out of the U.S. Bicycling Hall of Fame.

    Let’s see a public apology from USA Cycling for doping riders Erik Kaiter and Greg Strock instead of paying them off behind our backs to the sum of $250,000 each.

    Not to mention offering letters of recommendation to Rene Wenzel who was one of the coaches giving the riders injections, and continuing to promote Chris Carmichael’s training program to every new rider to the sport when USA Cycling knows that Chris was a coach who injected Greg Strock with a substance he called, “An Extract of Cortisone.”

    Until the truth comes out and Armstrong and the rest fall to disgrace and the true heroes of the sport such as Lemond are allowed to speak freely about doping and what it takes to win the Tour de France clean, and riders like me are continued to be forced to the sidelines either by doping pro teams, or anti-doping pro teams with no courage, nothing will change.

    As I said before the sport is suffering from Deplorable Conditions and I want to see a change. When is it going to happen, and who is going to lead the way? I certainly have tried but have failed so who is next to come forward and to make sacrifices for the sport?

    We need to hold accountable everyone who supports doping.

    We need to boycott their products.

    We need to demand change.

    We need to demand that truths including that of USADA and their history be made in a public statement. We need to demand that Tammy Thomas be allowed to be able to speak in truth of what she was allowed to do by USA Cycling, as well as all athletes who choose to come clean to receive amnesty.

    Unless we do these things above, then we all might just might as well quit racing our bike forever. I am certainly on my last wind and am reaching my breaking point.

    Ask yourself are you going to stand up to the system as an educated person and say, “I see what is happening and it needs to stop!” Or are you just going to continue to complain and watch for the rest of your life the same headlines on VeloNews forever, “So and so tests positive and claims that the labs are corrupt and faulty, and that the world is on a witch hunt against him?”

    Chances are, this email will never make it past an inbox and the reason for that is because the system has control over you.

    Lil’MATT
    STOLEN UNDERGROUND
    www.su13.us
    “We Ain’t Rookies, We Veterans Main.”

    P.s.
    Anyone who says I am a bitter crack pot, or wants to oppose one thing in this release as not accurate I will challenge them to a lie detector test, and will happily see them in court. I will testify under oath and bring all parties to the table to prove I am correct and that I am not lying about one thing. I am 100% accurate and what you have read is the truest thing you have ever read.
     
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  2. limerickman

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    Interesting reading.

    The author referring to Armstrong only provides the likes of Armstrong with some sort of aggrandisement which he (Armstrong) should not get.
    The sport of cycling has disregarded him.........he's tainted goods and the sport and the UCI in particular don't want him around.
    He was exposed for the fraudsters that he and his ilk are.

    The sport needs to move on............but it has problems in this regard.
    So long as tainted managers like Bruyneel, Pino etc etc are allowed to be involved in the sport, then the sport retains it's tainted qualities.

    It's bittersweet to see the sport going through it's travails because it was the irresponsibility of those managers and the UCI which has destroyed this sport.
    I hope that the current harsh medicine will improve the prospects for everyone from support staff to riders, in the future.
    But I have my doubts.
     
  3. helmutRoole2

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    I got the same e-mail.

    Decanio recently won the biggest road race in Florida, soloing away from a break of nine that included seven pro riders, so he's got the talent. He's really obsessed with doping issue and he's sacrificed his cycling career for it.

    On his web site, after he won that race, the headline read: I went so fast even the dopers thought I was doping. It was an accurate headline. There are many doped cyclists in South Florida and they did think he was doped after the race.
     
  4. Bro Deal

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    Why can't someone smack some sense into him? It seems like his anti-doping views would fit into a place like Team Slipstream. Winning clean would make his case a lot better than his ranting. He could rant all he wanted after he retired.
     
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    E-mail him. He'll respond.

    Also, he's pretty hot headed. I think that plays a role.
     
  6. Gregers

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    Have any of the Armstrong/US Cycling mobsters ever tried to cut up rough with Di Canio? He might be a zealot but given their financial clout and history of litigation the guy must have fair sized cojones to speak out loud and clear against them.
     
  7. fscyclist

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    Never met the guy but read a lot of his stuff so I can only speak to his writing. He comes across as manic. I think he probably scares a lot of people. He's probably 100% right in what he says, but that doesn't mean you get your point across. He also has to realize that taking that stand in this manner has consequences. I also don't trust Slipstream and don't think he would fit in.
     
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    Didn't DeCanio play for West Ham and Inter ?
     
  9. Bro Deal

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    DeCanio is his own worst enemy. If he were a little more level headed...

    Publishing a lot of corrospondence between himself and his last team probably burned a lot of bridges. Who would want to negotiate with him now? They would have to worry about everything being splashed on the web.

    I think Slipstream is legit. DeCanio's approach is way different than Vaughters. They don't seem compatible.
     
  10. fscyclist

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    Agree with everything except slipstream. I'd have more faith if they didn't hire members of the old guard this year. I think they should've stuck with a team similar to last year's and tried to get to Europe like 7-11 did, with little known riders.
     
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    I just found this on stolenunderground.com

    (Background information: Aerospace, which was the primary sponsor the the Aerospace-Toshiba team pulled it's sponsorship after Toshiba upped its threefold. When the Aerospace owner saw he was getting second billing on the kit, he waited two days and sent a text message to the team's owner saying that, because of doping in cycling his company would pull it's sponsorship. Mean, De Canio's primary sponsorship Santino jumped at the opportunity to be associated with a pro cycling team, leaving De Canio's team without a main sponsor. De Canio was asked to ride for the new Toshiba team, but he declined.)


    WE CONTINUE TO STAND UP AS STRONG AS EVER!
    We lost our sponsor, but not the war.
    By Stolen Underground
    This report filed 1-15-2008

    Stolen Underground is sad to announce that our merger with Santo Night Club has failed as they will become a part of the Aerospace Engineering / Toshiba team.

    "I spoke with the owner of Santo and he wants to have a pro team and be a part of the pro organization that is why he is going with them. He wanted me to be a part of that team and said that if he was going to sponsor them that I had to be a part of their program, but they only agreed to have me riding on their B team and not as a pro. To me that wasn't going to be worth it, as I could ride for a thousand teams that stand for nothing. On top of that I am smart enough to know if I win races they will have no intentions of ever offering me a pro contract. If that was the case they would have done so in November when I beat their entire team by 1:30 minutes solo in our Turkey Race, plus the fact that I have more UCI points than anyone on their team. Nobody on that team has wore a UCI or NRC yellow to my knowledge. Personally, I have had a problem with that program ever since 2006 when one of their riders came up to me in Ft. Launderdale disillusioned by doping in cycling and told me some bad things were going on regarding doping and that team! I never heard from that Aerospace rider again, and Heather as my witness can attest for everything I am saying now. She was there. I think this Aerospace/Toshiba team are using Santo for his money and I wish he could see things from my perspective. I think they tricked him into thinking he is going to have some sort of control or learn something about having a pro team, but in reality they just took money away from his original riders, and gave more money to the pros who don't deserve it. In essence I think he just paid $100,000 to have a few jerseys and to ride in a pro team car once and awhile. If he would have stayed with me, we could have built a pro team together. Remember I ain't no rookie, I'm a veteran main. Lil'MATT has earned his stripes."-Lil'MATT

    Stolen Underground would like to thank everyone for sticking around with us and believing in our program and team. Stolen Underground team member Giancarlo was asked to be a part of the Aerospace Program and he has turned it down to stick with Stolen Underground and to stay real. Big respect to Giancarlo!!!! Also, we would like to thank our only sponsor Greg Lemond for sticking with us.

    "As long as I have Greg Lemond on my side I don't care. I know that with him and the supporters we have now I can help build Stolen Underground into the best anti-doping cycling team in the world. I have the right allies and I am continuing to reach out to new important people in the sport who believe in anti-doping such as Sean Tucker of Toyota-United, Jonas Carney of KBS, and Jonathan Vaughters of Slipstream. We are out there and we are fighting back. Stay tuned cuz this war is just begining."-Lil'MATT
     
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    I love people who rant and whine, it is generally because they are not and were never good enough.
    This thread has no place in the Grand Tours section of the board.
     
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    You're right. Most of the threads on here don't, which personally I think is a good thing.

    As for De Canio not being good enough, a second at 21 at the Tour de Beauce is a very good result. Also, he was the top finisher at the U23 worlds for the US, so arguably he was one of the best American riders of his generation.
     
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    Right now, the GT section of the board is the only one where the rampant spam is being cleaned (thanks to Lim). All the other sections are damn near unuseable. So deal with it.
     
  19. plectrum

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    Yes but he is 29 now ........
     
  20. fscyclist

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    Yes, and he quit doping while those around him persisted. We will never know who was the best of that generation because of dope.
     
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