Did anyone else hear the bang? (TdF spoiler)

[petulance]

Bleve wrote:
> petulance wrote:
> > Bleve wrote:

> > > Pereiro lost a minute on most of the other top 5 riders in the first
> > > ITT. There's more than one way to pull back his rather slender lead.
> >
> > Let's see ...
> >
> > Sastre is 1'50" back
> > Kloden is 2'29" back
> >
> > Kloden took about 27 seconds out of Sastre and a minute out of Pereiro
> > in Stage 7's TT .
> >
> > Pereiro is definitely in the driver's seat now. All he has to do is
> > keep up with the leaders and conceed less than 90 seconds in Saturday's
> > time trial to win the Tour.
> >
> > Of course, after yesterday's events, anything is possible ...
>
> You're not wrong .. they'll all be rueing letting phonak drop the ball
> earlier in the week.

The blame should fall at the feet of CSC and T-Mobile. While the onus
was on Phonak to chase the breakaway since they had the yellow jersey,
the DS must have realised the team's limitations and decided not to
chase. If they did chase the breakaway it is likely that Landis would
have been isolated before yesterday's stage.

The other teams should have picked up the chase then (surely they must
have tweaked that Pereiro has finished in the Top 10 twice)

 

[Bleve]

petulance wrote:
> Bleve wrote:
> > petulance wrote:
> > > Bleve wrote:
>
> > > > Pereiro lost a minute on most of the other top 5 riders in the first
> > > > ITT. There's more than one way to pull back his rather slender lead.
> > >
> > > Let's see ...
> > >
> > > Sastre is 1'50" back
> > > Kloden is 2'29" back
> > >
> > > Kloden took about 27 seconds out of Sastre and a minute out of Pereiro
> > > in Stage 7's TT .
> > >
> > > Pereiro is definitely in the driver's seat now. All he has to do is
> > > keep up with the leaders and conceed less than 90 seconds in Saturday's
> > > time trial to win the Tour.
> > >
> > > Of course, after yesterday's events, anything is possible ...
> >
> > You're not wrong .. they'll all be rueing letting phonak drop the ball
> > earlier in the week.
>
> The blame should fall at the feet of CSC and T-Mobile. While the onus
> was on Phonak to chase the breakaway since they had the yellow jersey,
> the DS must have realised the team's limitations and decided not to
> chase. If they did chase the breakaway it is likely that Landis would
> have been isolated before yesterday's stage.
>
> The other teams should have picked up the chase then (surely they must
> have tweaked that Pereiro has finished in the Top 10 twice)

There's a lot of "shoulds" that are so easy to point out with
hindsight.
remember that a lot of the teams are depleted by now, or split (eg:
davitamon, working for Cadel and McEwen, CSC working for Jens and
Sastre, Disco working for .. um? ...).

I don't think there's any real blame as such, on form, Pereiro was
nothing to worry about at the time he was let go. That he's been able
to hang on on the second round of hills is the suprise. Will he be
able to bounce back tonight after two very very hard days and a long
breakaway?

 

[gplama]

I spotted these Floyd shirts on CN: http://tinyurl.com/pzk6w

I think they need to reprint with my modifications*:

http://tinyurl.com/h3jm8


*Ass as seen on cyclingnews

 

[Donga]

Bleve wrote:
> Here's the crack, as it happened :
>
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2006/tour06/index.php?id=/photos/2006/tour06/tour0616/32

Well spotted!

 

[TimC]

On 2006-07-20, Bleve (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> petulance wrote:
>> The other teams should have picked up the chase then (surely they must
>> have tweaked that Pereiro has finished in the Top 10 twice)
>
> There's a lot of "shoulds" that are so easy to point out with
> hindsight.
> remember that a lot of the teams are depleted by now, or split (eg:
> davitamon, working for Cadel and McEwen, CSC working for Jens and
> Sastre, Disco working for .. um? ...).

Stu, obviously.

--
TimC
"COGITO, EGGO SUM." I think, therefore I am a waffle.
.sig of Mr. Ska on Slashdot.org

 

[TimC]

On 2006-07-20, EuanB (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
>
> Bleve Wrote:
>> Floyd ... *bang* That hurt. 10 minutes... 24 hours ago he was almost
>> unbackable as the favorite ... wow.
>> Go Cadel! Awesome ride. Sastre only took 30s. Maybe a podium yet ...
> I'm SPEWING! Went to bed about 19:30, alarm went off at 21:30. Felt
> like **** and put work before le Tour.
>
> Last time that ever happens!!!!! What a stage to miss! Grrrrrrrrr.
>
> That's it, next year I'm going to take the alps days off (that's if I'm
> not in Europe).

Pffft.

I deliberately stayed away from the spoilers today so I could watch
lastnight's tape. That's the way you've got to do it.



And here I was thinking Landis was about to give T-mobile "The Look",
bluffing his way off the back

--
TimC
Anyone who quotes me in their sig is an idiot. -- Rusty Russell.

 

[petulance]

Bleve wrote:
> petulance wrote:
> >
> > The blame should fall at the feet of CSC and T-Mobile. While the onus
> > was on Phonak to chase the breakaway since they had the yellow jersey,
> > the DS must have realised the team's limitations and decided not to
> > chase. If they did chase the breakaway it is likely that Landis would
> > have been isolated before yesterday's stage.
> >
> > The other teams should have picked up the chase then (surely they must
> > have tweaked that Pereiro has finished in the Top 10 twice)
>
> There's a lot of "shoulds" that are so easy to point out with
> hindsight.
> remember that a lot of the teams are depleted by now, or split (eg:
> davitamon, working for Cadel and McEwen, CSC working for Jens and
> Sastre, Disco working for .. um? ...).

CSC working for Jens? Surely you mean Jens working for CSC. Davitamon
only works for McEwen ... Cadel has had to fend for himself in the
mountains. Maybe he should switch to a team that only has GC
aspirations. Telekom was the last team that won yellow and green in the
same Tour and I believe Zabel had no support in the sprints.

>
> I don't think there's any real blame as such, on form, Pereiro was
> nothing to worry about at the time he was let go. That he's been able
> to hang on on the second round of hills is the suprise. Will he be
> able to bounce back tonight after two very very hard days and a long
> breakaway?

I guess he did ...

 

[blah]

TimC wrote:
> On 2006-07-20, EuanB (aka Bruce)
> was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> >
> > Bleve Wrote:
> >> Floyd ... *bang* That hurt. 10 minutes... 24 hours ago he was almost
> >> unbackable as the favorite ... wow.
> >> Go Cadel! Awesome ride. Sastre only took 30s. Maybe a podium yet ...
> > I'm SPEWING! Went to bed about 19:30, alarm went off at 21:30. Felt
> > like **** and put work before le Tour.
> >
> > Last time that ever happens!!!!! What a stage to miss! Grrrrrrrrr.
> >
> > That's it, next year I'm going to take the alps days off (that's if I'm
> > not in Europe).
>
> Pffft.
>
> I deliberately stayed away from the spoilers today so I could watch
> lastnight's tape. That's the way you've got to do it.

My **** that the way you've got to do it! Suck it in, girly man! It's
the three weeks I spend eleven month waiting for. No way will I go back
to the self-imposed media silence of the past. Every bloody person I
know knows I love the tour and wants to talk about it... There's only
so much "LA LA LA LA NOT LISTENING, NOT LISTENING! you can do and
retain friends.
Besides, night-time guy (ie, myself) doesn't care what morning guy (ie,
myself) thinks. Morning guy, of course, wants to kill night-time guy at
6.30 every day.

 

[adam85]

TimC wrote:
> On 2006-07-20, EuanB (aka Bruce)
> was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> >
> > Bleve Wrote:
> >> Floyd ... *bang* That hurt. 10 minutes... 24 hours ago he was almost
> >> unbackable as the favorite ... wow.
> >> Go Cadel! Awesome ride. Sastre only took 30s. Maybe a podium yet ...
> > I'm SPEWING! Went to bed about 19:30, alarm went off at 21:30. Felt
> > like **** and put work before le Tour.
> >
> > Last time that ever happens!!!!! What a stage to miss! Grrrrrrrrr.
> >
> > That's it, next year I'm going to take the alps days off (that's if I'm
> > not in Europe).
>
> Pffft.
>
> I deliberately stayed away from the spoilers today so I could watch
> lastnight's tape. That's the way you've got to do it.

My **** that the way you've got to do it! Suck it in, girly man! It's
the three weeks I spend eleven month waiting for. No way will I go back
to the self-imposed media silence of the past. Every bloody person I
know knows I love the tour and wants to talk about it... There's only
so much "LA LA LA LA NOT LISTENING, NOT LISTENING! you can do and
retain friends.
Besides, night-time guy (ie, myself) doesn't care what morning guy (ie,
myself) thinks. Morning guy, of course, wants to kill night-time guy at
6.30 every day.

I know the feeling. My expresso machine broke in week 1 too! NOOOO! Luckily Red Bull was on special, but it worked a bit too well. I hit the sack and was staring at the ceiling for an hour

Adam