did you used to take WURM more seriously?

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  1. cheapie

    cheapie New Member

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    i gotta admit, there was a time when i thought he was sane. i would read his rantings against bush and think maybe he had a point and that i was just resistant to it because i had never thought about it.

    then over the last year he has really REALLY seemed to lost whatever teneous grasp he once had on reality and i'm like.....hey wait a minute! what if he's been insane all along and when i was sort of agreeing with him i was actually agreeing with an insane person? :confused:

    i mean, has he always been talking crazy about the gvt perpetrating 9/11, blaming bush for the zidan headbutt affair, and linking to each and every anti-bush article regardless of the incredulity it should generate in a normal person and i just never noticed?

    i find myself in a conundrum. if he believes something to be true, should i automatically believe the opposite or just try to disregard his opinion altogether? hmmmm....
     
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    Felt_Rider Active Member

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    Never took him serious though he obviously takes his mission serious, which I find entertaining in an odd way.
     
  3. limerickman

    limerickman Moderator

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    I can't see the purpose of this particular thread - except as an attempt to try to start a slagging match.

    I note that there is already a thread called "Dear Wurm" in this part of the site.

    If no one has any objections - I think we ought to terminate this thread.
     
  4. cheapie

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    go ahead i guess. i just can't hardly stand going into YBS anymore cuz of all the absolutely mindless garbage he posts. and he honestly seem to be moving away from lucidity.


    but feel free to close it. thx for asking.
     
  5. limerickman

    limerickman Moderator

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    I can leave this thread open, Cheapie.

    If you can't stand going in to the YBS - why not start some threads which might be of interest to you?
    (OK - you started this thread - but surely there are other subjects you're interested in which might move the discussion to what you'e interested in??
    Just a thought).
     
  6. cheapie

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    i suppose. but if you had to pass a drunk smelly guy waving and screaming at you every day when you went into your favorite coffee shop wouldn't you want to have to guy restrained and cleaned up a bit rather than finding somewhere else to get your cup of joe?


    not a perfect illustration but you get my point.
     
  7. limerickman

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    talking of that - I had to take a train yesterday to Dublin (easier than driving).
    This lunatic was on the train screaming obscenities at people - like the guy in your analogy above.
    I entered the train carriage behind him - he didn't see me in the seat behind him.
    Lots of commuters started to fill the train from the opposite end of the carriage - and this guy was "fuck youse all..." this and "you're all a showers of cunts....." that.
    People wouldn't remain in the carriage as they entered from their end.
    I stayed put (he still hadn't seen me).

    Next thing he turned round and seeing me - started the routine "fuck you....." blah, blah.

    As I've done throughout my life - I did what I was always told to do and that is to confront bullies head on.
    I gently said to him "what did you sayto me?".
    Immediately he stopped cursing.
    He knew that I wasn't going to take any shite from him.
    He moved out of the carriage and I didn't see him again.

    If people allow themselves to be intimidated they'll be intimidated.
     
  8. cheapie

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    :) interesting story. shower of c$nts? lol.
     
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    He's entertaining, that is true.

     
  10. Felt_Rider

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    Good for you
    I feel the same way. I can't stand bullies. I feel real encouraged to fight when something like that happens, but in todays American law if you even lay a hand on a person even if the bystanders want to see you pound the guy the law will condemn you and not the bully so I try my best to show restraint.
     
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    Good for you....
     
  12. Wurm

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    I can assure you Cheapass that I have a much more "sane" outlook on what this country and it's politicians and corporations have been up to the past several years than you or anyone like you has. All I have to do is look around to see what the results are. That tells me that something is very wrong with the situation; unlike other's who are simple enough to buy the pablum that's spoon fed to them every day by the mass media.

    First off, over the last year things have gotten more and more out of control with what the Bu$hCo's have been doing. It never stops with them, it's at least weekly now that there is some new domestic illegality or heinous overseas crime revealed.

    Whether you and your ilk like it or not, I'm going to do my best to expose these criminals for what they are, because you damned sure are not going to hear about it from the nightly TV news or even in most larger newspapers.

    How long is it going to take for you rubes to understand that the vast majority of the public airwaves and print media are now run not by some "liberal press" - which may have had some truth to it 30 years ago - but are owned and directed by right-wing ideologues and corporations? That is a basic truth, go ahead and find out for yourself.

    Even the so-called "liberal" New York Times pounded the war drums supporting the invasion of Iraq, when they knew all along that Bu$hCo's fear-mongering stories were lies. Just ask Judith Miller.

    So now, why do you think Congress is trying to limit and interfere with the internet?? It has done fine for itself for quite awhile without gov't intervention, but now they've realized that the 'net is the last place where free and honest communication with the public can happen.

    You should start putting 2 + 2 together, and realize that yep, sometimes it DOES add up to 4. :rolleyes:

    As tough as it may be to believe that your own gov't - the lying, greedy jackasses you and I might have actually voted for - is involved in the most despicable depravity you could imagine, it is nonetheless true.

    I would say that if anyone is "insane", it is you and any and all Republican/right-wingers that still back the Bush regime - knowing what we all now know about what they have done, and have even shamelessly admitted to.
     
  13. cheapie

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    for the sake of this argument, let's say i agree with everything you just said.


    that still doesn't make saying the US gvt committed 9/11 any less nonsensical. or any other the other crazy things you say.

    i can fully understand being ticked at the current administration. i am also. but getting from that position to one where you take every single anti-bush story, article, position, etc. at face value is an enourmous leap. one which sane people do not make.


    and for the last time, i am not a fan of bush. just because i think you have a collection of tinfoil hats does not mean i endorse bush. it would be nice and simple for you if i was merely disagreeing with you because you're cracking on someone i support, but sadly that's not the case.
     
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    Edited by Moderator... but he forgot to let anyone know.....Hell, I guess it's better than having an entire post deleted...again, again and again....
     
  15. Wurm

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    If you had the clear sense enough to acknowledge the evidence against Bu$hCo vis-a-vis 9-11, it would be non-sensical not to agree with what I've said.

    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

    FYI, I don't take every anti-Bush article, position, etc. at face value. Far from it in fact. The ones I post here are usually the ones that I've looked into and stand up the best under scrutiny.

    However, Bu$hCo has violated the law (both domestic and international) so many times and so egregiously that it would be hard not to agree with nearly everything that is published about them.
     
  16. cheapie

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    hahahaha...the ones you post stand up the BEST???
     
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    Absolutely. For example:

    Link
     
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    http://ourworld.cs.com/mikegriffith1/refute.htm
    "A 112-page document drawn up by Ramzi Binalshibh, of Al Qaeda, and released by Qatar-based TV station Al Jazeera, admits that the organisation was involved in the terrorist attacks in the USA on September 11th and warns of a wave of new terrorist activities.

    The document, called “The new reality of the Crusades” is about the justification for the terrorist attacks on September 11th, 2001 and celebrates the destruction caused by the attacks on the twin towers and the Pentagon, described by the author as “That glorious Tuesday”.

    The document tries to justify the attacks by quoting from Islamic Sunnah, or teachings, such as “For anyone that has followed the events, it is clear that what happened in America was a punishment from God for all the injustice and oppression which America has done to the nations everywhere in the world, especially to the Moslems”.

    It claims that the main planners for the attacks were Khaled Mohammed and Ramzi Binalshibh and the four pilots of the hijacked aircraft, Mohammed Atta, Marwan Al-Shehhi, Ziad Samir Jarrah and Hani Hanjour, although it attributes the responsibility for the attacks on the USA, stating that the Koran stipulates that it is legal to destroy any country which shows aggressiveness against Moslem nations, claiming also that “if the infidel fixes as objectives women, children and old people, then the Moslems can do the same thing”.

    The document declares that “America converted itself into a country at war when it broke the peace and helped the Jews, over 50 years ago, to occupy Palestine…the day it bombed Iraq and began the blockade, when it attacked Sudan and when it bombed and blockaded Afghanistan and attacked the Moslems there”.

    It is claimed that the attacks were a pre-emptive strike because the USA was already planning to attack Afghanistan: “America had drawn up a plan to invade Afghanistan and to make an attack there by diverse countries long before the events in America”.

    The author of the document goes on to gloat over the fact that the USA lost around one billion USD in revenue after the attacks on September 11th, and the fact that it lost 2,000 financial experts, suffered a Stock Exchange crash, the USD lost value and airline companies went bankrupt.

    Finally, the document promises “thousands more attacks” like September 11th to make that event “the beginning of the end for America”.

    Timothy BANCROFT-HINCHEY PRAVDA."


     
  19. Wurm

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    Nice try Crappyshorts, but this is more hopeful rantings from extremist Muslims, used as red meat propaganda to stir up the masses, but highly doubtful that it's an an accurate story.

    :rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
  20. limerickman

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    I go back to the cost/benefit analysis as regards 9/11?

    What was the cost ? And who stood to benefit most ?

    There are serious gaps in what the various commissions reported in the aftermath of 9/11.
    Indeed the conduct of the central players like Bush has never really been able to standup to questioning.

    I don't believe that what we have heard about 9/11 is the truth.

    The fact that the truth has been witheld, this allows various pro and anti conspiracy theories to germinate and fester.
     
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