Originally Posted by new_rider
Common sense FTW.
The level of hyperbole is getting insane. Disc brakes are to rim brakes what the computer is to an abacus?!? Some of you guys are getting really desperate.
No disk don't beat the schit out of rim brakes, you can't use a motorcycle or a car for comparisons because the speed is dramatically different than a bike. I use to live in California and raced the mountains all over Southern CA (including many very hot days, this is So Calif after all!) using nothing but rim brakes as all the rest of us did and millions before us and after us, and none of us ever had a reason to complain about braking. And the very unscientific thought that disk brakes can stop you faster on a bike is complete and utter nonsense. Unscientific I said? Yes, that's right because braking on a bike is completely dependent upon pads, tires, road conditions and rider weight, in other words adhesion, once those adhesion limits have been reached and the tires lock up it doesn't matter if you're using disk or rim, they both will stop (if all the conditions are the same) in the exact same distance. A lot of you guys are buying into new technology and all the hype that marketing can put into it. Like I said before though, if you are riding in snow and mud conditions then disk brakes are better otherwise you're wasting money.Originally Posted by swampy1970
Some of us "old" guys have braked from 180mph to very slow in a damn short space of time on good disk brakes on a 400lb motorcycle. Rim brakes would never ever provide that level of performance.
The hyperbole is real - disk brakes beat the **** out of rim brakes. Period, end of story. All that is needed is for a common standard (disk size, caliper mounting location etc) to be set and let the real fun begin.
Just don't expect this to be on bikes where aero is important though... Everywhere else - there's no contest.
I heard this same **** before about dual pivots vs single pivots and a bike can stop a lot faster with dual pivots, it was all nonsense because it's all about tire adhesion.
By the way disk brake pads wear out faster than rim pads I just learned.
And here is a VERY INTERESTING article I just found from probably the worlds foremost tandem maker in all of this: http://santanatandems.com/Techno/UnderstandingBraking.html