Do most forks take recessed brake nuts?



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I'm shopping online, and brake bolt/nut compatibliity isn't listed in fork specs.
The hole for a recessed brake nut is larger than the hole for a bolt that goes all the way through, and I plan on keeping my recessed nut brakes. Is the larger recessed-nut hole pretty much standard and to be expected?
I'm looking at performancebike.com at the moment.
 
If it's a new fork, yes, it will be drilled for the recessed nut.

Forks that are older than, say, 20 years, better ask.
 
The Windsor Wellington 1.0 came with a Duraforte custom fork drilled with a smaller hole for a longer brake bolt.

it seems like that's a recent model. it says 2007.
http://www.cyclingforums.com/t/360431/new-windsor-wellington-at-bikesdirect-com-yes-or-no

Then again, they seem to keep updating it. This page says "2014 Windsor Wellington 1.0"
http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/windsor/wellington1_IX.htm
 
FYI. If the rear of the Fork's shoulder is NOT milled/cast for a recessed brake nut, then the hole can be re-drilled with an appropriately sized drill bit (~5/16") ...

The nut's flange will then simply nest OUTSIDE the fork ...
 
You told me about that already. I just don't want to alter a brand new aluminum fork.
 
Originally Posted by urge2kill
You told me about that already. I just don't want to alter a brand new aluminum fork.
FWIW. I have NEVER seen an aluminum fork which did not accept a recessed brake nut ...

BUT, as oldbobcat said, ask the seller.
 
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Thanks again, Alfeng.

By the way, will a 68mm English BB-shell accept a HollowTech II BB or conventional threaded BB without an adapter?
 
Originally Posted by urge2kill
Thanks again, Alfeng.

By the way, will a 68mm English BB-shell accept a HollowTech II BB or conventional threaded BB without an adapter?
The Dura Ace, Ultegra & 105 Hollowtech II BB cups are designed to be used with a standard, 68mm wide English threaded BB shell ...

Unless, of course, it is spec'd for an Italian threaded BB.

AFAIK, there really isn't a difference between the 105 & Dura Ace BBs other than the color of the anodized finish.

  • oldbobcat may be able to validate or refute THAT observation
  • I don't know if the OTHER brands of Hollowtech II compatible BBs are worth the money some people have complained that the bearings in the "standard" FSA MegaExo cups are not as good as those used by Shimano ... I don't know if that is actually true, or not ... if true, then I think that the conditions which the rider/bike encounter could-or-might impact premature wear with FSA BBs because the inner seal of the cartridge bearing on the FSA MegaExo BBs is vulnerable compared to the inner seal of the cartridge bearing in Shimano's Hollowtech II BB cups ... AND SO, slathering grease on the inner side of the cup of an FSA BB (a la Campagnolo whose bearing is actually exposed!) may be beneficial.
  • Heck, it might be a good idea to slather grease on the inner side of Hollowtech II BB cups, too!

BTW. I have received SOME 105 cups whose threads were machined in such a way that they were very, VERY TIGHT in the BB shell ... it may seem barbaric, but knocking the tips of the threads down (that is, running a file LIGHTLY across the threads) is part of the way to get them to thread in more easily IF you encounter resistance (REMEMBER -- the drive side cup has a LEFT HAND thread).

THAT's a long way of saying that you can possible let the cosmetics of the BB cups be the deciding factor ...

The worst thing that can happen is that you have to replace the BB ...

Of course, the cartridge bearings, alone, can be replaced ...
vs. buying a new BB
 
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Originally Posted by alfeng

BTW. I have received SOME 105 cups whose threads were machined in such a way that they were very, VERY TIGHT in the BB shell ... it may seem barbaric, but knocking the tips of the threads down (that is, running a file LIGHTLY across the threads) is part of the way to get them to thread in more easily IF you encounter resistance (REMEMBER -- the drive side cup has a LEFT HAND thread).
The filing down makes sense. Most screw threads are "truncated".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Thread_Profile_Diameters.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Diagram_of_thread_combinations_of_snug_fit.jpg
 
Originally Posted by urge2kill
The Windsor Wellington 1.0 came with a Duraforte custom fork drilled with a smaller hole for a longer brake bolt.

it seems like that's a recent model. it says 2007.
http://www.cyclingforums.com/t/360431/new-windsor-wellington-at-bikesdirect-com-yes-or-no

Then again, they seem to keep updating it. This page says "2014 Windsor Wellington 1.0"
http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/windsor/wellington1_IX.htm
Yes, but Windsor is a BikesDirect brand. While not exactly top-drawer, Performance can be counted on to be more with it than that.

You can always call or email Performance before you buy. Hey, they're even better informed about their own products than we are.