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Mike Vandeman
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At 06:37 PM 11/28/02 -0700, Gunther, Jeff wrote:
> Mike,
> Just so you know, I am a mountain biker and a mountaineer who cares
deeply about the environment.
Caring is as caring DOES. People who truly care reflect that in their ACTIONS.
> I think it is wrong to say that mountain
bikers are out to harm the environment.
I never said it is INTENTIONAL! But it is still destructive.
>Everyone that I ride with is very
conscious of leaving no trace when we are out and we frequently pick up after hikers that have left
wrappers, tissues, etc. on the trail.
Good. So keep your bikes on pavement, and HIKE in nature.
> As you know, getting outside and into the mountains is a very
fulfilling and uplifting experience that should not be off limits to someone just because they are
on a bike.
You are LYING. There isn't a single trail in the world closed to mountain bikers. It is only BIKES
that are banned. You CAN walk, can't you?
> If we really want to address the issue of wildlife having no place
to live then we should start talking about the real source of the problem; overpopulation.
I have a vasectomy and no kids. But that's not enough: the remaining people can still destroy the
environment by their ACTIONS, so ACTIONS need to be changed.
> If people would quit having so many damn babies this world
would be a much better place and the balance could begin to be restored but no one seems to have the
balls to stand up and say that.
Actually, a lot of people are saying just that. But very few people have the balls to say that
mountain biking should be banned, partly because mountain bikers ******** anyone who has the guts to
speak out against their selfish, destructive sport.
By the way, I have NEVER heard any mountain biker talk about the issue of overpopulation in their
newsgroup. You are just trying to change the subject away from the destruction that mountain
biking does.
> Peace,
Jeff
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to
help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
> Mike,
> Just so you know, I am a mountain biker and a mountaineer who cares
deeply about the environment.
Caring is as caring DOES. People who truly care reflect that in their ACTIONS.
> I think it is wrong to say that mountain
bikers are out to harm the environment.
I never said it is INTENTIONAL! But it is still destructive.
>Everyone that I ride with is very
conscious of leaving no trace when we are out and we frequently pick up after hikers that have left
wrappers, tissues, etc. on the trail.
Good. So keep your bikes on pavement, and HIKE in nature.
> As you know, getting outside and into the mountains is a very
fulfilling and uplifting experience that should not be off limits to someone just because they are
on a bike.
You are LYING. There isn't a single trail in the world closed to mountain bikers. It is only BIKES
that are banned. You CAN walk, can't you?
> If we really want to address the issue of wildlife having no place
to live then we should start talking about the real source of the problem; overpopulation.
I have a vasectomy and no kids. But that's not enough: the remaining people can still destroy the
environment by their ACTIONS, so ACTIONS need to be changed.
> If people would quit having so many damn babies this world
would be a much better place and the balance could begin to be restored but no one seems to have the
balls to stand up and say that.
Actually, a lot of people are saying just that. But very few people have the balls to say that
mountain biking should be banned, partly because mountain bikers ******** anyone who has the guts to
speak out against their selfish, destructive sport.
By the way, I have NEVER heard any mountain biker talk about the issue of overpopulation in their
newsgroup. You are just trying to change the subject away from the destruction that mountain
biking does.
> Peace,
Jeff
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to
help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande