[email protected] wrote:
> Carl Fogel writes:
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>>>>Out of curiosity, can you cite any posts that actually argue that
>>>>chains stretch in a plastic sense?
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>>>>Or is this just myth and lore serving an overwrought pedantry?
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>>>Sorry that I may have added to the confusion. Yes, I've seen a few
>>>posts on this NG where the author thought that chains actually
>>>stretched in a plastic sense... but I know better. I put "stretch"
>>>in quotes to indicate that it was a measured lengthening, but did
>>>not explain myself.
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>>>The person who contended that the Powerlink wore more quickly than
>>>the others, said he measured it. I suppose it would be possible to
>>>measure with one of those chain-check tools, by checking a section
>>>that includes the link, and comparing it to one that doesn't. If
>>>the difference is very great it should be noticeable... at least by
>>>the time you are getting ready to replace the chain.
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>>Any idea of what was actually said in these posts to help find
>>them--some phrase or name?
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> Too bad you joined this newsgroup since then. The FAQ:
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> http://www.sheldonbrown.com/brandt/chain-care.html
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> Was written to resolve the chain myth and lore of the past. Exchanges
> like the recent ones about head bearing fretting went on at great
> length by writers who were convinced they had stretched their chain on
> a steep grade. Besides, why do you care. You seem to have a quest to
> find a contradiction in anything I have written to wreck.bike in the
> past 20 years.
but jobst, /lots/ of people contradict stuff you have written. it
happens when you've made the mistake of holding yourself up to be an
expert on a subject on which you are most evidently not. or, er,
"misrepresent" yourself as say "the inventor of stress relief" when in
fact the process you misname pre-dates your birth.
most people, when confronted by their errors, or by subjects outside of
their experience, either accept reality or keep quiet. you do neither.
the fact that the /number/ of subjects on which you choose to
shamelessly make some of these ridiculous assertions seems to know no
bounds is what really draws ire among what you doubtless perceive to be
your protagonists, not merely your lack of reality. but even if the
breadth of your guessing, bluster and f[r]ictional "fact" didn't
provoke, your manner would still.
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>>Searching for "stretch" just seems to produce anti-stretch
>>posts--like you, they use the word because it's convenient and rolls
>>off the keyboard more easily than "elongate," not because they
>>believe that chains resemble taffy.
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> Keep up the good work!
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>>I'm willing to believe that true "stretch" fanatics exist, but I
>>haven't been able to track one down yet.
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> Today they are a dwindling tribe but with skill we could recruit new
> ones through suitable wording in chain wear postings.
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>>Perhaps someone with an elephantine memory will point me to an
>>actual post in which the monster exhibits itself, naked and
>>unashamed.
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>>Hopefully,
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> I suppose you mean "I hope" or are you afraid to offer even that
> opinion? I suppose you could rework that to be a rhetorical question.
>
> Jobst Brandt
