Zog The Undeniable wrote:
> Steve Knight wrote:
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>>> The bar-ends use the same cables as STI, but not the same ends as brake cables.
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>> but are the brake cables the same for normal shimano brakes and sti brakes? I knw the shifter and
>> brake cables are different of course.
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> Yes. I was trying to cover all bases in my answer. For completeness:
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> All gear cables are the same. MTB brake cables are different to road brake cables.
>
> I'm assuming modern Shimano kit here, or someone will tell me that a Raleigh Super Fogel from 1937
> used square nipples on the front brake...
>
Gear wires are the same format but they've been getting larger. Standard Shimano type gear wires go
into Ergo levers with great difficulty and come out in pieces if at all. (We use a different wire
for Ergos than for Shimano levers, some shops sand the head smaller).
And French classic gear wires were smaller still. JAmming a modern wire into a Simplex lever will
take a good long while to remove.
Numbers-Shimano 4.5mm, Campagnolo 4.0mm, a classic Simplex wire which is still in an n.o.s. lever,
about 3.9mm
On top of that, gear wires used to be oriented the other way
- like an MTB brake wire head, only smaller diameter and much thinner . Then there are the Suntour
XPress wires , sort of the MTB brake wire head's format but a very small diameter and much wider.
Sturmey Archer and Torpedo trigger wires are a long skinny version of what you call a gear wire
and the twist-grip wire's heads from them (and from Shimano )were a lot like the Suntour XPress
head ,but smaller diameter yet.
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