Doctor.House is lying to the forum

Discussion in 'Professional Cycling' started by saluki, Jul 29, 2007.

  1. limerickman

    limerickman Moderator

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    This retreat in to legal speak smacks of doubt on your part, Lucy
    You can't unequivocally say whether or not you think Contador is clean.

    I'll ask the question again.
    On the balance of probabilities and having viewed the race : do you think that
    Contador is clean or not?
     


  2. Tim Lamkin

    Tim Lamkin New Member

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    ask a Disco fan :D
     
  3. K'Ching

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    So Rasmussen is also clean?
     
  4. jhuskey

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    The sad truth is that most jurors form an opinion within the first 15 minutes of a trial, and determine which of the opposing parties they like or dislike.
    The evidence or proof comes later.
    Of course I can't prove this. :D
     
  5. limerickman

    limerickman Moderator

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    And I fear that this too will be the case for the 2007 TDF.


    You're muddying the waters!
     
  6. jhuskey

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    So much has happened this year ,fans are either in a defensive posture,attack mode or totally disgusted with the sport.
    I believe that what is happening goes much deeper than riders and teams.
    As usual you can follow the money trail and you will find manipulation and unethical influence.
     
  7. Serafino

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    Lim,

    1. Who do you think is clean? And how would you know?

    2. Who do you think is dirty? And how would you know?

    3. Were Kelly and Roche clean? A simple yes or no will suffice. :D

    Cat. Kettle. Black.

    Sad state of affairs when every rider is assumed dirty by those who hate his nationality or team.
     
  8. trucker39

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    Really limerickman, please. You condemn the use of legal speak, and in the next sentence you use legal jargon (incorrect legal jargon by the way, if you want to use it get it right). I merely have a go as you seem to be confused as to when legal speak should be used...i.e. by you, but noone else.

    Your pursuit of the earlier contributors is also erroneous. They can give you an opinion on whether they believe AC is a doper, and they have. Why are you persisting with the matter? Do you want to sue them for malicious falsehood or intentional infliction of emotional distress if AC tests positive? Gimme a break.
     
  9. Tim Lamkin

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    Because ....it is me :eek:
     
  10. lucybears

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    No, you have now asked a totally different question.
    Q1 was "are you then saying that Contador is clean?
    Simple yes or no answer will suffice."
    Q2 is now "On the balance of probabilities and having viewed the race, are you then saying that Contador is clean?"

    If I had answered Q1 with a simple yes or no, then I would have been asserting that Contador is DEFINITELY guilty or innocent.
    To answer Q2 with a simple yes or no IS possible, however, because then I am NOT asserting that Contador is DEFINITELY guilty or innocent.

    Now, having explained the vast difference between those two questions (OK, not quite in words of one syllable, but I still hope you get the point), I will answer Q2 :-

    No
     
  11. Doctor.House

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    Lance calls the truth: jealous lies. (I have written the truth on doping)

    Memo to the blissfully ignorant and all meanspirited doping apologists:

    Alberto Contador is a flaming drug cheat and sporting fraud. DeNile is a river in Africa and the Easter Bunny was a lie.

    Contador has an Operation Puerto doping dossier and his voice appears ona recorded police telephone call speaking with his gynochologist, Dr. Eufemiano Fuentes.

    Contador's supervisiors were Manolo Saiz (Liberty-Seguros) and Johan Bruyneel/Lance Pharmstrong (Discovery Channel).

    Contador has many confirmed drug cheater teammates: Alexander Vinokourov, Roberto Heras, Gianpaolo Caruso, Jorg Jaksche.

    Without the cow blood witness, Whitney Richards, against Michael Rasmussen, Contador would not be in Yellow.

    Lance Pharmstrong and Nike proved that some dopers are excuded, whilst others are protected.

    The 2007 Tour was FIXED in favor of a Spanish drug cheat, Contadoper.







     
  12. limerickman

    limerickman Moderator

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    I'm not condemning anyone for using legalspeak.

    What I noted was that Lucy couched his answers in legalspeak when asked if Contador was clean.


    They haven't actually given an opinion as to whether they consider Contador clean or not.
    Except for Tim, when asked, none of the DC supporters have said that they think Contadors clean

    Given that teams recent history - I can fully understand their reticience.
     
  13. limerickman

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    Thanks for the answer, Lucy.

    I hope that whoever wins a race is clean.
     
  14. Gregers

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    God, that was hard work.
     
  15. Doctor.House

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    Amazing---that after the Nike Lance LIVE WRONG era, people still grasp onto miracles of fraud.
     
  16. lucybears

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    This was not legalspeak. It was an attempt to illustrate that saying "On the balance of probabilities and having viewed the race, I am not saying that Contador is clean" is completely different to the good Doc's assertion that
    So do I, even if others posting here obviously don't
     
  17. RedFury

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    Seguro que nunca se te ha ocurrido que existen Españoles educados en universidades Americanas, algunos de los cuales terminaron casandose con Americanas y hasta tienen hijos Americanos y son completamente bilingues. Probrecito. Lo que es la incultura y la xenofobia...

    Paleto de mierda, que te den por el culo!
     
  18. cheapie

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    i have no idea why DH is still a member here. if he was a poster and ANY other forum i frequent he'd be gone in a day.

    baseless attacks, thread-crapping, insults, baiting, lying, etc are his MO. it speaks volumes about this place that he is allowed to repeatedly return.
     
  19. Maison

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    I seem to recall seeing a poster calling you out, while I was lurking, and you set the standard around here for evading questions.

    Whether Contador doped or not Doctor.House is a troll plain and simple. He turns any and every thread into his personal crusade and 90% of what he says has no proof to back it up. Even people who agree with many things he says agree that he is just clogging up the forum with his obsessive behavior.
     
  20. Tim Lamkin

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    Lim protects DH.
     
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