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On Jun 17, 1:12 pm, "Dave" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have had a look on overhead photos and cannot figure out exacly where it
> happened.
>
> From the published photo you can see a narrow pavement, you can also see
> bollards.
I'm pleased to hear that Millie seems to be recovering well.
I used to cycle down Cheltenham lower High Street regularly (I've now
found a better route). I'm fairly sure the incident must have happened
right at the south end of St Paul's St South where it meets the High
Street. I believe the photograph is looking north, and the accident
happened on the east of St Paul's St. Aerial views show a short narrow
stretch at the south and then it widening, which is consistent with
the double yellow lines in the photograph. Google Maps show no
connection between St Paul's St and the High Street.
If the cyclist was coming down St Paul's St, there would be no reason
to be on the pavement uneless something was blocking the route through
the bollards. If the cyclist was on the pavement, it would be almost
impossible to speed because there is a _very_ sharp turn into the High
Street coming up. Same constraint applies if she was entering the St
Paul's St - she would be less than 10 yds from a sharp turn, and
couldn't have been going that fast.
My guess is she was cycling between the bollards and the little girl
didn't expect it. A good cyclist should have been watching out for the
child and been able to stop or her avoid her in this situation. But
from the reporting, it seems entirely possible that the cyclist didn't
actually hit the child at all, and she just fell back on to the
bollard because she thought she needed to get out of the way quickly.
Final thought: don't make assumptions about the type of cyclist.
Cheltenham has a good proportion of women of mature years who, if not
actually riding Pashleys, look as if they ought to be. They travel at
very sedate speeds, mainly in the gutter.
Rob
Having now seen the Police web site where it does confirm that the incident
happened at the junction of Lower High Street and St Pauls St and now found
it on the overhead pics it does indeed look like the street has bollards all
the way across to stop some traffic.
The report obviously does not mention anything about which direction the
cyclist was travelling etc so we can only guess what happened - as you say
there could be quite a few explanations. It could have been a dog that made
her jump then fall into the bollard - it just happens to have been a cyclist
so she has been demonised by some reports.
Dave
news:1a62e22b-a1bb-41a8-a55d-350a75147100@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 17, 1:12 pm, "Dave" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have had a look on overhead photos and cannot figure out exacly where it
> happened.
>
> From the published photo you can see a narrow pavement, you can also see
> bollards.
I'm pleased to hear that Millie seems to be recovering well.
I used to cycle down Cheltenham lower High Street regularly (I've now
found a better route). I'm fairly sure the incident must have happened
right at the south end of St Paul's St South where it meets the High
Street. I believe the photograph is looking north, and the accident
happened on the east of St Paul's St. Aerial views show a short narrow
stretch at the south and then it widening, which is consistent with
the double yellow lines in the photograph. Google Maps show no
connection between St Paul's St and the High Street.
If the cyclist was coming down St Paul's St, there would be no reason
to be on the pavement uneless something was blocking the route through
the bollards. If the cyclist was on the pavement, it would be almost
impossible to speed because there is a _very_ sharp turn into the High
Street coming up. Same constraint applies if she was entering the St
Paul's St - she would be less than 10 yds from a sharp turn, and
couldn't have been going that fast.
My guess is she was cycling between the bollards and the little girl
didn't expect it. A good cyclist should have been watching out for the
child and been able to stop or her avoid her in this situation. But
from the reporting, it seems entirely possible that the cyclist didn't
actually hit the child at all, and she just fell back on to the
bollard because she thought she needed to get out of the way quickly.
Final thought: don't make assumptions about the type of cyclist.
Cheltenham has a good proportion of women of mature years who, if not
actually riding Pashleys, look as if they ought to be. They travel at
very sedate speeds, mainly in the gutter.
Rob
Having now seen the Police web site where it does confirm that the incident
happened at the junction of Lower High Street and St Pauls St and now found
it on the overhead pics it does indeed look like the street has bollards all
the way across to stop some traffic.
The report obviously does not mention anything about which direction the
cyclist was travelling etc so we can only guess what happened - as you say
there could be quite a few explanations. It could have been a dog that made
her jump then fall into the bollard - it just happens to have been a cyclist
so she has been demonised by some reports.
Dave
