Andy Hampsteen wrote once in an article that to train for long races or grand tours he had to train his body to use energy more efficiently. For example, he recommended for a given day of training, a pure protein breakfast, no carbs, and then a long ride without re-fueling. He won the Giro d'Italia and the Alpe d'huez stage in the tour, so he must know what he's talking about.jhuskey said:I have trained for a couple of years without eating before some of my rides. The theoretical purpose was to teach my body to more efficiently use fuel.
I generally do this on short intense rides.
Does it work? I think so. Am I fast? Hell no, but I still maintain that it made me better.
Imagine how well he could have gone if he had some carbs for breakfast...youhaditcoming said:Andy Hampsteen wrote once in an article that to train for long races or grand tours he had to train his body to use energy more efficiently. For example, he recommended for a given day of training, a pure protein breakfast, no carbs, and then a long ride without re-fueling. He won the Giro d'Italia and the Alpe d'huez stage in the tour, so he must know what he's talking about.
That statement seems more and more ridiculous every time I see it.__________ won the Giro d'Italia and the Alpe d'huez stage in the tour, so he must know what he's talking about.
You can assume that he was properly fuelled for racing. The article noted that this is training periods only.Jono L said:Imagine how well he could have gone if he had some carbs for breakfast...
That makes no sense whatsoever... If that was the case, in general, we'd all be going slower. Maybe you should run that theory through the discombobulator a few times first.Doublebiker said:There are also discussions along the lines that the athletes of today have to train more to get the same training response as "yesterdays" athletes 'cause today's athletes are eating "to well". And there is some rethinking about antioxidants as well. The idea is that they protect you so well ,that the body don't get the right signals to compensate ("rebuild") as much (less training response) as the body normally would do.
sddPiotr said:So, in summary, we need to eat less before all those LSD rides that we must do to increase our "pure endurance" and to get ready for all the stage racing.
why is that ?? what is your palmares then ?frenchyge said:That statement seems more and more ridiculous every time I see it.
See, you're doing it again. I think he's referring to the mistaken notion that winning (or palmares) go hand in hand with knowledge. IOW, if Hampsten knows what he's talking about because he won the Giro, does it imply that those who didn't win it are less informed about proper training?youhaditcoming said:why is that ?? what is your palmares then ?
What Piotr said. Nothing personal, it's just surprising how often folks try to pass that off.youhaditcoming said:why is that ??
I have over 3800 internet forum posts, which apparently makes me well-qualified to point out ridiculous internet logic.youhaditcoming said:what is your palmares then ?
It's somewhat unlikely that you are 100% replacing what glycogen you use while doing multi-hour rides, so in effect, you are doing this anyway.grahamspringett said:http://www.cyclingnews.com/fitness.php?id=fitness/2009/glycogen_training
Interesting concept, perhaps tricky to get right. And totally against what we've all come to accept as the right way to fuel ourselves for training.
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