Don't let your meat loaf...

Discussion in 'Food and nutrition' started by Sheldon, Feb 7, 2006.

  1. On Sat 11 Feb 2006 09:16:11a, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it
    OmManiPadmeOmelet?

    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > "Pandora" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    >> news:[email protected]
    >> >
    >> > : Sheldon wrote:
    >> >
    >> > : > My helper:
    >> > : > http://i1.tinypic.com/nec65w.jpg
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > ANYONE who lets their animals on their food prep areas is a disgusting
    >> > slob.

    >>
    >> ...surely he is more clean than its employer :DDD
    >> Pandora
    >>
    >>

    >
    > ROFL!!!
    >
    > There are very, very few diseases you can catch from a cat.
    > Humans are far more dangerous......


    Do you let your human lay on the counter?

    --
    Wayne Boatwright o¿o
    ____________________

    BIOYA
     


  2. In article <[email protected]>,
    Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote:

    > On Sat 11 Feb 2006 09:16:11a, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it
    > OmManiPadmeOmelet?
    >
    > > In article <[email protected]>,
    > > "Pandora" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >> <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    > >> news:[email protected]
    > >> >
    > >> > : Sheldon wrote:
    > >> >
    > >> > : > My helper:
    > >> > : > http://i1.tinypic.com/nec65w.jpg
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> > ANYONE who lets their animals on their food prep areas is a disgusting
    > >> > slob.
    > >>
    > >> ...surely he is more clean than its employer :DDD
    > >> Pandora
    > >>
    > >>

    > >
    > > ROFL!!!
    > >
    > > There are very, very few diseases you can catch from a cat.
    > > Humans are far more dangerous......

    >
    > Do you let your human lay on the counter?


    Think "newlyweds".

    <smirk>
    --
    Peace, Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson
     
  3. JohnHancock

    JohnHancock Guest

    Nancy Young wrote:
    >
    > I was probably a teenager before I heard of such a thing, but I
    > learned it's common. Tastes fine to me, although I don't do it
    > that way.


    I have not heard of it until now. I have seen people make up a sauce
    mixture using tomato sauce, and various spices to put on it. Which might
    be somewhat like ketchup I suppose but does not taste at all like it. I
    have never seen anyone burn or caramelize it to the extent that Sheldon
    did ever!

    >
    > Much better than the jaw dropping idea that people put ketchup
    > on scrambled eggs and .... get this ... FRENCH TOAST! Yikes.



    When I was a kid I did the ketchup on scrambled eggs thing. Now I use
    hot-sauce. In fact I use hot sauce in place of ketchup for all things.
    Now ketchup on french toast - that's just wrong. Ewww!
     
  4. sf

    sf Guest

    On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 11:25:33 -0800, JohnHancock wrote:

    > Now ketchup on french toast - that's just wrong.


    I feel the same way about ketchup on hash browns although I dunk my
    fries in it. I guess catsup isn't breakfast food for me.
    --

    Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.
     
  5. rrb

    rrb Guest

    [email protected] wrote:
    > : Sheldon wrote:
    >
    > : > My helper:
    > : > http://i1.tinypic.com/nec65w.jpg
    >
    >
    > ANYONE who lets their animals on their food prep areas is a disgusting slob.
    >
    >


    Perhaps you should qualify that - I do let my cats up on the counters
    but as I do not prepare food directly on the counters it's not a problem
    and should be excluded from your statement. I either prepare food on a
    cutting board, plate, or cover the counter with either aluminum foil, or
    plastic wrap. I do clean the counters but as I said I don't prepare
    food directly on the counters so it is not an issue with me.

    rrb
     
  6. zxcvbob

    zxcvbob Guest

    rrb wrote:
    > [email protected] wrote:
    >
    >> : Sheldon wrote:
    >>
    >> : > My helper:
    >> : > http://i1.tinypic.com/nec65w.jpg
    >>
    >>
    >> ANYONE who lets their animals on their food prep areas is a disgusting
    >> slob.
    >>
    >>

    >
    > Perhaps you should qualify that - I do let my cats up on the counters
    > but as I do not prepare food directly on the counters it's not a problem
    > and should be excluded from your statement. I either prepare food on a
    > cutting board, plate, or cover the counter with either aluminum foil, or
    > plastic wrap. I do clean the counters but as I said I don't prepare food
    > directly on the counters so it is not an issue with me.
    >
    > rrb
    >


    I'm surprised nobody has taken issure with the concept of "letting" cats
    on the counter. Have you ever tried to stop a determined cat from doing
    something? Sure, you can keep them off the counter when you're there
    watching...

    AFAIK, our cat doesn't like lounging in the kitchen. But if she did,
    there's no way I could keep her off the countertops. (Flypaper might
    help...)

    Bob


    Bob
     
  7. Sheldon

    Sheldon Guest

    rrb wrote:
    > [email protected] wrote:
    > > : Sheldon wrote:
    > >
    > > : > My helper:
    > > : > http://i1.tinypic.com/nec65w.jpg
    > >
    > >
    > > ANYONE who lets their animals on their food prep areas is a disgusting slob.
    > >
    > >

    >
    > Perhaps you should qualify that - I do let my cats up on the counters
    > but as I do not prepare food directly on the counters it's not a problem
    > and should be excluded from your statement. I either prepare food on a
    > cutting board, plate, or cover the counter with either aluminum foil, or
    > plastic wrap. I do clean the counters but as I said I don't prepare
    > food directly on the counters so it is not an issue with me.


    Absolutely. Nothing in that meat loaf was ever directly on the counter
    top. The real slobs are those who do prepare food directly on
    countertops even if they have no pets. And of the photos others have
    posted they sure have some evil looking cutting boards and disgusting
    work areas. People who visit me never believe I have six cats because
    all but Jilly immediately dive under a bed as soon as the door bell
    rings and they don't come out until an hour after whoever it was has
    left... there's no schmutz and no odor... from what I've seen in yoose
    pictures my counters are cleaner than your dishes. I'm positive my
    cats are far cleaner then any European, especially the frogs and dagos.
     
  8. zxcvbob wrote:

    > rrb wrote:
    >
    >> [email protected] wrote:
    >>
    >>> : Sheldon wrote:
    >>>
    >>> : > My helper:
    >>> : > http://i1.tinypic.com/nec65w.jpg
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> ANYONE who lets their animals on their food prep areas is a
    >>> disgusting slob.
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >> Perhaps you should qualify that - I do let my cats up on the counters
    >> but as I do not prepare food directly on the counters it's not a
    >> problem and should be excluded from your statement. I either prepare
    >> food on a cutting board, plate, or cover the counter with either
    >> aluminum foil, or plastic wrap. I do clean the counters but as I said
    >> I don't prepare food directly on the counters so it is not an issue
    >> with me.
    >>
    >> rrb
    >>

    >
    > I'm surprised nobody has taken issure with the concept of "letting" cats
    > on the counter. Have you ever tried to stop a determined cat from doing
    > something? Sure, you can keep them off the counter when you're there
    > watching...
    >
    > AFAIK, our cat doesn't like lounging in the kitchen. But if she did,
    > there's no way I could keep her off the countertops. (Flypaper might
    > help...)
    >
    > Bob
    >
    >
    > Bob


    They are trainable, if you get them young and are strict, ours, will
    give me a 'look' and hop briefly on the counter on its way up to the top
    of the refrigerator which is one of its favourite spots, it knows its
    not supposed to get on the counters but has to use one corner of one
    counter for a step to the fridge, i don't mind this.

    One of the 2 has a tendency to get inside any open drawer, and i have
    had a time keeping it out of the utensil drawer when i have it open, but
    they are at a point now where all it takes is for me to become aware of
    them doing something they know they should not and they cease doing it.

    They really only are in the kitchen when im cooking, otherwise it dont
    hold a lot of interest for them. But they know, sometimes it seems
    before i do, when i am fixing large cuts of meat, which they inevitably
    get their share of.

    One likes to curl up inside a large pressed glassed punch bowl, it is
    hardly ever used, maybe once a year and i just don't have the heart to
    make it stop, putting it through the dishwasher is enough for me (the
    punch bowl not the cat).

    One time i cold not find 'serious' and so shook its box of food thinking
    it would come running, suddenly i heard a rather pathetic wailing from
    inside the oven, it had crawled into a warm but turned off oven and had
    the door shut behind it, obviously it was quite comfortable there for an
    hour or more but had no way of getting out, now i always make sure and
    check the oven before i turn it on.
    ---
    JL
     
  9. sf

    sf Guest

    On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 20:58:37 GMT, Joseph Littleshoes wrote:

    > One time i cold not find 'serious' and so shook its box of food thinking
    > it would come running, suddenly i heard a rather pathetic wailing from
    > inside the oven, it had crawled into a warm but turned off oven and had
    > the door shut behind it, obviously it was quite comfortable there for an
    > hour or more but had no way of getting out, now i always make sure and
    > check the oven before i turn it on.


    Oh, my gosh... that story had the makings of an unhappy ending. Glad
    it wasn't a cat-tastrophe!
    --

    Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.
     
  10. sf

    sf Guest

    On 11 Feb 2006 12:39:19 -0800, Sheldon wrote:

    >
    > rrb wrote:
    > > [email protected] wrote:


    > > > ANYONE who lets their animals on their food prep areas is a disgusting slob.
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > > Perhaps you should qualify that - I do let my cats up on the counters
    > > but as I do not prepare food directly on the counters it's not a problem
    > > and should be excluded from your statement. I either prepare food on a
    > > cutting board, plate, or cover the counter with either aluminum foil, or
    > > plastic wrap. I do clean the counters but as I said I don't prepare
    > > food directly on the counters so it is not an issue with me.

    >
    > Absolutely. Nothing in that meat loaf was ever directly on the counter
    > top. The real slobs are those who do prepare food directly on
    > countertops even if they have no pets.


    Okay.

    > <And of the photos others have
    > posted they sure have some evil looking cutting boards and disgusting
    > work areas.>


    Why were you compelled to say that?

    > People who visit me never believe I have six cats because
    > all but Jilly immediately dive under a bed as soon as the door bell
    > rings and they don't come out until an hour after whoever it was has
    > left... there's no schmutz and no odor...


    You could have put a period after "odor" and eliminated the gratuitous
    name calling.

    > from what I've seen in yoose
    > pictures my counters are cleaner than your dishes. I'm positive my
    > cats are far cleaner then any European, especially the frogs and dagos.


    You ruined some good points by not knowing when to quit. Go to your
    room and don't come out until you can play nice.
    --

    Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.
     
  11. rrb

    rrb Guest

    zxcvbob wrote:
    > rrb wrote:
    >> [email protected] wrote:
    >>
    >>> : Sheldon wrote:
    >>>
    >>> : > My helper:
    >>> : > http://i1.tinypic.com/nec65w.jpg
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> ANYONE who lets their animals on their food prep areas is a
    >>> disgusting slob.
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >> Perhaps you should qualify that - I do let my cats up on the counters
    >> but as I do not prepare food directly on the counters it's not a
    >> problem and should be excluded from your statement. I either prepare
    >> food on a cutting board, plate, or cover the counter with either
    >> aluminum foil, or plastic wrap. I do clean the counters but as I said
    >> I don't prepare food directly on the counters so it is not an issue
    >> with me.
    >>
    >> rrb
    >>

    >
    > I'm surprised nobody has taken issure with the concept of "letting" cats
    > on the counter. Have you ever tried to stop a determined cat from doing
    > something? Sure, you can keep them off the counter when you're there
    > watching...


    With me it's a figure of speech there is no issue. I don't "let" them
    get on the counter they get up there on their own, and I don't try to
    stop them. As if I could anyway. However I do put them up on a counter
    when I want them up there for some reason. My male cat has been trained
    to get on the counter when I want him to using a finger and arm gesture.
    No not that one! I make an arcing motion with my arm - like a leaping
    motion - towards the counter and sometimes just point at the counter
    with my finger and he jumps up on the counter. He's a smart boy - he
    learned to do this on his own with no training regimen on my part.
     
  12. Wayne Boatwright wrote:

    >On Sat 11 Feb 2006 09:16:11a, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it
    >OmManiPadmeOmelet?
    >
    >
    >
    >>In article <[email protected]>,
    >> "Pandora" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>><[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    >>>news:[email protected]
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>: Sheldon wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>: > My helper:
    >>>>: > http://i1.tinypic.com/nec65w.jpg
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>ANYONE who lets their animals on their food prep areas is a disgusting
    >>>>slob.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>...surely he is more clean than its employer :DDD
    >>>Pandora
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>

    >>ROFL!!!
    >>
    >>There are very, very few diseases you can catch from a cat.
    >>Humans are far more dangerous......
    >>
    >>

    >
    >Do you let your human lay on the counter?
    >
    >
    >

    Lay what? Surely you mean does she let her chook lay on the counter?

    Christine
    I bet in a minute I'll find somebody else has already come up with this...
     
  13. zxcvbob wrote:

    > rrb wrote:
    >
    >> [email protected] wrote:
    >>
    >>> : Sheldon wrote:
    >>>
    >>> : > My helper:
    >>> : > http://i1.tinypic.com/nec65w.jpg
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> ANYONE who lets their animals on their food prep areas is a
    >>> disgusting slob.
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >> Perhaps you should qualify that - I do let my cats up on the counters
    >> but as I do not prepare food directly on the counters it's not a
    >> problem and should be excluded from your statement. I either prepare
    >> food on a cutting board, plate, or cover the counter with either
    >> aluminum foil, or plastic wrap. I do clean the counters but as I said
    >> I don't prepare food directly on the counters so it is not an issue
    >> with me.
    >>
    >> rrb
    >>

    >
    > I'm surprised nobody has taken issure with the concept of "letting"
    > cats on the counter. Have you ever tried to stop a determined cat
    > from doing something? Sure, you can keep them off the counter when
    > you're there watching...
    >
    > AFAIK, our cat doesn't like lounging in the kitchen. But if she did,
    > there's no way I could keep her off the countertops. (Flypaper might
    > help...)
    >
    > Bob
    >
    >
    > Bob


    Well said. Rumpole (who weighs 7kg) specialises in taking a flying leap
    on to the breakfast table, usually but not always missing my coffee.

    Christine
     
  14. Lisa Ann

    Lisa Ann Guest

    "Nancy Young" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > Much better than the jaw dropping idea that people put ketchup
    > on scrambled eggs and .... get this ... FRENCH TOAST! Yikes.


    Nope,. couldn't do it to French Toast...but yes, I put ketchup on my
    scrambled eggs. I was 17 (we moved to Chicago) before I realized that the
    rest of the world doesn't do that also. ;)

    Lisa Ann
     
  15. Lisa Ann

    Lisa Ann Guest

    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > > > Do you let your human lay on the counter?

    >
    > Think "newlyweds".
    >
    > <smirk>


    LOL - Oh, Om, you've resurrected a memory I thought I'd successfully buried!
    Aaaagh! I used to be a shift manager at Pizza Hut. The GM and the
    Assistant were having an affair. They were quite open about the fact that
    they'd done it *everywhere* in the store. I started coming into open early
    so I could scrub every available surface down with sanitizer before opening.

    Excuse me while I look for something to lobotomize myself with!

    Lisa Ann
     
  16. Lisa Ann

    Lisa Ann Guest

    "zxcvbob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > > AFAIK, our cat doesn't like lounging in the kitchen. But if she did,

    > there's no way I could keep her off the countertops. (Flypaper might
    > help...)
    >
    > Bob


    When I was married, we trained our 3 cats with duct tape. We'd put it
    sticky-side up on the counter, they'd jump up and...freaked them out every
    time. Training *and* entertainment! They'd stay off the counters for a few
    months, then we'd catch them up there again, and back came the duct tape!

    I have no counters in my kitchen now, so the only thing I have to worry
    about is Tasha leaping off the refrigerator onto my head.

    Lisa Ann
     
  17. sf wrote:

    > On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 20:58:37 GMT, Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
    >
    >
    >> One time i cold not find 'serious' and so shook its box of food thinking
    >> it would come running, suddenly i heard a rather pathetic wailing from
    >> inside the oven, it had crawled into a warm but turned off oven and had
    >> the door shut behind it, obviously it was quite comfortable there for an
    >> hour or more but had no way of getting out, now i always make sure and
    >> check the oven before i turn it on.

    >
    >
    > Oh, my gosh... that story had the makings of an unhappy ending. Glad
    > it wasn't a cat-tastrophe!


    She fooled us a couple of times, i look in the oven to make sure there's
    'no one' there and she moves and i see her and ask her to vacate the
    premise so i may close the door, usually she is most accommodating.
    ---
    JL
     
  18. In article <[email protected]>,
    zxcvbob <[email protected]> wrote:

    > rrb wrote:
    > > [email protected] wrote:
    > >
    > >> : Sheldon wrote:
    > >>
    > >> : > My helper:
    > >> : > http://i1.tinypic.com/nec65w.jpg
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> ANYONE who lets their animals on their food prep areas is a disgusting
    > >> slob.
    > >>
    > >>

    > >
    > > Perhaps you should qualify that - I do let my cats up on the counters
    > > but as I do not prepare food directly on the counters it's not a problem
    > > and should be excluded from your statement. I either prepare food on a
    > > cutting board, plate, or cover the counter with either aluminum foil, or
    > > plastic wrap. I do clean the counters but as I said I don't prepare food
    > > directly on the counters so it is not an issue with me.
    > >
    > > rrb
    > >

    >
    > I'm surprised nobody has taken issure with the concept of "letting" cats
    > on the counter. Have you ever tried to stop a determined cat from doing
    > something? Sure, you can keep them off the counter when you're there
    > watching...
    >
    > AFAIK, our cat doesn't like lounging in the kitchen. But if she did,
    > there's no way I could keep her off the countertops. (Flypaper might
    > help...)
    >
    > Bob
    >
    >
    > Bob


    That's why I used the mousetrap training method.
    Less messy than flypaper and remote training (no human present!) is the
    #1 most effective way to train cats!

    Take several mousetraps, set them, and gently place them UPSIDE DOWN on
    the countertops. Placing them upside down keeps the cats from getting
    injured. The snapping and jumping of the traps when they hit them
    startles the cat down from the counter.

    It worked, and did not take very long. When the traps stop being sprung,
    leave them there for about another week just to be sure.

    Jeffers also sells "scat mats" but they are more expensive:

    http://tinyurl.com/bre2y

    Cats CAN be trained and without being cruel. :)
    Remote aversion training is most effective and won't hurt your
    relationship with them...

    I adore my cats but I really don't want them on the stove and kitchen
    counters. I have too many for that and the shed fur becomes an issue.
    --
    Peace, Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson
     
  19. In article <[email protected]>,
    Joseph Littleshoes <[email protected]> wrote:

    > They are trainable, if you get them young and are strict, ours, will
    > give me a 'look' and hop briefly on the counter on its way up to the top
    > of the refrigerator which is one of its favourite spots, it knows its
    > not supposed to get on the counters but has to use one corner of one
    > counter for a step to the fridge, i don't mind this.
    >
    > One of the 2 has a tendency to get inside any open drawer, and i have
    > had a time keeping it out of the utensil drawer when i have it open, but
    > they are at a point now where all it takes is for me to become aware of
    > them doing something they know they should not and they cease doing it.
    >
    > They really only are in the kitchen when im cooking, otherwise it dont
    > hold a lot of interest for them. But they know, sometimes it seems
    > before i do, when i am fixing large cuts of meat, which they inevitably
    > get their share of.
    >
    > One likes to curl up inside a large pressed glassed punch bowl, it is
    > hardly ever used, maybe once a year and i just don't have the heart to
    > make it stop, putting it through the dishwasher is enough for me (the
    > punch bowl not the cat).
    >
    > One time i cold not find 'serious' and so shook its box of food thinking
    > it would come running, suddenly i heard a rather pathetic wailing from
    > inside the oven, it had crawled into a warm but turned off oven and had
    > the door shut behind it, obviously it was quite comfortable there for an
    > hour or more but had no way of getting out, now i always make sure and
    > check the oven before i turn it on.


    That's scary... :-(

    Cats that like to crawl into tight spaces can get into so much trouble!

    We have a lovely little persian torty named "Diana". A few years ago,
    she vanished. I searched the house twice for her and did not find her.
    We don't let our cats out, but I presumed that she must have gotten
    outside somehow and it had been raining heavily... I called and searched
    the yard, and still no Diana.

    8 days later, I was hunting for a rarely sold item that I had sold on
    ebay. I kept some inventory in the drawers of a desk on the back porch
    and was not sure where I had last moved the item in question.

    I opened the bottom drawer, and there was Diana! :-o She got out looking
    a bit huffy and headed straight for the food dishes... I called the vet
    the next day and told her the cat had been locked in a drawer for 8 days
    but looked okay and asked if there was anything I should do.

    She said this was not the first time she had heard of this kind of thing
    happening and not to worry as long as she was eating and drinking ok.
    She was, and still is, fine.

    She never cried/meaowed (that I heard anyway) but then she is one of
    those cats with an almost inaudable voice.

    The strangest thing about the whole episode is that there was NO pee or
    poop in the drawer! Do cats go into suspended animation or somthing??????
    --
    Peace, Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson
     
  20. In article <[email protected]>,
    sf <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On 11 Feb 2006 12:39:19 -0800, Sheldon wrote:
    >
    > >
    > > rrb wrote:
    > > > [email protected] wrote:

    >
    > > > > ANYONE who lets their animals on their food prep areas is a disgusting
    > > > > slob.
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > > Perhaps you should qualify that - I do let my cats up on the counters
    > > > but as I do not prepare food directly on the counters it's not a problem
    > > > and should be excluded from your statement. I either prepare food on a
    > > > cutting board, plate, or cover the counter with either aluminum foil, or
    > > > plastic wrap. I do clean the counters but as I said I don't prepare
    > > > food directly on the counters so it is not an issue with me.

    > >
    > > Absolutely. Nothing in that meat loaf was ever directly on the counter
    > > top. The real slobs are those who do prepare food directly on
    > > countertops even if they have no pets.

    >
    > Okay.
    >
    > > <And of the photos others have
    > > posted they sure have some evil looking cutting boards and disgusting
    > > work areas.>

    >
    > Why were you compelled to say that?
    >
    > > People who visit me never believe I have six cats because
    > > all but Jilly immediately dive under a bed as soon as the door bell
    > > rings and they don't come out until an hour after whoever it was has
    > > left... there's no schmutz and no odor...

    >
    > You could have put a period after "odor" and eliminated the gratuitous
    > name calling.
    >
    > > from what I've seen in yoose
    > > pictures my counters are cleaner than your dishes. I'm positive my
    > > cats are far cleaner then any European, especially the frogs and dagos.

    >
    > You ruined some good points by not knowing when to quit. Go to your
    > room and don't come out until you can play nice.


    <lol> I was thinking the same thing........ ;-)
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    Peace, Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson
     
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