Originally Posted by alienator .
Shipping is, of course, going to be a function of by what company it was shipped, the type of shipping, how big the box is, and whether or not it was insured. Insuring the shipment can add a lot to the bill. Frankly, I think the cost of shipping is worth it if it gets you the optimal resolution. Do you want the optimal resolution, or are you okay with doing a barnyard repair? It's your safety and your money. $80 isn't much in the grand scheme of things, and it would be a veritable pittance if something gets buggered while doing a repair yourself or [COLOR= #ff0000]letting one be done by someone like alfeng[/COLOR].
Newt, Newt, Newt ...
Not to be unkind, but you apparently have never shipped an over-sized package overseas & you are speaking out of ignorance ...
While an option was-and-is to send the frame back, the frame's appearance AND ([COLOR= #808080]projected[/COLOR]) shipping cost clearly suggests that the frame was one of the Chinese CF frames ([COLOR= #808080]there is, IMO, absolutely nothing wrong with those "Chinese CF frames" according to those who actually own one vs. your choice to disdain them in a different thread [/COLOR][COLOR= #ff0000]
despite the fact that you have no first hand knowledge[/COLOR]) ...
- I suppose that if you have the UPS STORE pack-and-ship then the shipping cost could be more than it has to be I'm not saying that someone should never pay a shop to pack& ship a bike, BTW ....
- but let's suppose you were going on an excursion OR to a race with your bike ...
- would you have a shop pack the bike AND another shop unpack & reassemble it OR would you take the time to pack & unpack the bike?
[*] but, if YOU had ever sent anything overseas which was bigger than an envelope then you would know where the stated $80 cost
probably came from.
Regardless, YOU have to learn how to read. The OP was NOT indicating what he paid in shipping to receive the frame, he was indicating it would apparently cost
him $80 to ship the frame back to the seller.
- presumably, the OP still has the original carton shipping carton.
- FYI. The reason that a frame being shipped overseas can cost $80 +/- is due to the oversize surcharge. It cost me $60 to ship a bike frame to Switzerland several years ago
- and, $120+ to ship a wheelset to South Korea because I had to pack the wheels separately due to size constraints
YOU really have got to stop wallowing in your ignorance AND you have to stop reactively challenging what other people say just because of your limited experience.
In regard to whether-or-not the frame should be shipped back, it ultimately becomes a matter of [COLOR= #008000]
WHY SHIP IT BACK IF YOU CAN DIY?[/COLOR]
Now, considering how
data driven YOU generally are, one would think that you would take the time to learn the bonding characteristics & typical uses of JB WELD before proclaiming that it is not an adequate solution to the OP's immediate probem ...
- BTW, just what resin do you think that Calfee, et al, are using for small repairs to re-bond the fibers? and, if different, how do you think THAT resin compares with JB WELD?
[*] Do you even understand how the CF in a fabricated piece "works"?
Again, just because your immediate experience is limited by a choice of ignorance, challenging me doesn't make you right ... ...
- BTW, unless I'm thinking of someone else, it would seem that over the years you have apparently evolved from recommending the work be done by some HS kid at an LBS to recommending parktools.com and/or ZINN's books because you apparently have progressed on the learning curve. Good on ya!
[*] similarly, BTW, thank heaven that Chisolm has apparently "learned" that it isn't as difficult to tune a front derailleur as he once thought because he apparently chose to test-and-subsequently-follow
my recommendation of using the right chain ([COLOR= #ff0000]what a concept![/COLOR])
for the particular drivetrain rather than some randomly selected chain -- something they apparently forgot to teach him at UBI-or-wherever-he-learned-his-"craft" ... or, maybe "adjusting" a front derailleur was some of the instruction which
he-slept-through!?!
Regardless, just because you may-or-may-not be manually challenged doesn't mean that other people in this Forum are manually challenged --
[COLOR= #3399ff]your limitations are not those of others[/COLOR].
In the grand scheme of things, challenging what anyone
says suggests that 'they' are more-than-likely correct ...
BECAUSE, in this case, my suggestion of using JB WELD remains a viable alternative to "
[COLOR= #008000]drill([/COLOR][COLOR= #008000]ing[/COLOR][COLOR= #008000]) a larger hole into the frame and just get a new bolt to fit that hole[/COLOR][COLOR= #008000].[/COLOR]"