No need to change the chainset as your 8 speed chainset will probably be fine with 9s chain. Same applies to derailleurs (though I believe you need to match mtb front derailleurs with mtb shifters for indexing to work properly).
Cassettes are interchangeable, the "road" or "mtb" is just a marketing term and doesn't reflect any differences in geometry etc.
The things you will need to change are chain, cassette and indexed shifters.
You can have the best of all worlds by retaining the largest sprocket, but replacing the rest of the cassette with a closer ratio "road" cassette. I do this on my touring bike to give a 13-24 +32 arrangement. Then you have close ratios with a bail out gear in case you hit a steep hill at the end of a long day with lots of luggage.
Thanks. I'm in the market for a crankset anyway. Long story, but I presently have a clear anodized left arm and a black right.
I don't feel the need for a bail-out gear lower than say a 28. I've not used my granny ring since verifying that it works and I do live in Florida. Anything that steep and traction is more an issue than torque.
Is there any reason to not use a Shimano road cassette on an off-road drivetrain? Either 8 speed or 9 speed?
The cassettes I see offered for mountain bikes have cogs I will never use on both ends. Seems that getting more choices of useful gears would be better than having a 30, 32, 34 I never use never mind the 11 or 12 I don't have enough torque or large enough hills for. Something like a 13-28 would be great, but isn't sold as a "mountain" cassette.
FWIW I've been using a 7 speed Dura-ace UNIGLIDE thread on rear cassette on my 8 speed XT setup.. (it runs silently and shifts cleanly when I want it to.. I have waiting for those darn ramps!)
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So any reason to not use the road parts? I've got an 8 speed setup now, but might convert to 9 when I start replacing this stuff.
road parts tend to be a bit more expensive at least around here..
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Will a 9 speed crankset work well with 8 speed chain and front der? In case I get a deal and want to start the conversion there.
good question.. if the ring spacing is the same then yes, if not then maybe not.
Is there any reason to not use a Shimano road cassette on an off-road drivetrain? Either 8 speed or 9 speed?
The cassettes I see offered for mountain bikes have cogs I will never use on both ends. Seems that getting more choices of useful gears would be better than having a 30, 32, 34 I never use never mind the 11 or 12 I don't have enough torque or large enough hills for. Something like a 13-28 would be great, but isn't sold as a "mountain" cassette.
FWIW I've been using a 7 speed Dura-ace UNIGLIDE thread on rear cassette on my 8 speed XT setup.. (it runs silently and shifts cleanly when I want it to.. I have waiting for those darn ramps!)
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So any reason to not use the road parts? I've got an 8 speed setup now, but might convert to 9 when I start replacing this stuff.
road parts tend to be a bit more expensive at least around here..
Quoted message said:
Will a 9 speed crankset work well with 8 speed chain and front der? In case I get a deal and want to start the conversion there.
good question.. if the ring spacing is the same then yes, if not then maybe not.
Is there any reason to not use a Shimano road cassette on an off-road drivetrain? Either 8 speed or 9 speed?
The cassettes I see offered for mountain bikes have cogs I will never use on both ends. Seems that getting more choices of useful gears would be better than having a 30, 32, 34 I never use never mind the 11 or 12 I don't have enough torque or large enough hills for. Something like a 13-28 would be great, but isn't sold as a "mountain" cassette.
FWIW I've been using a 7 speed Dura-ace UNIGLIDE thread on rear cassette on my 8 speed XT setup.. (it runs silently and shifts cleanly when I want it to.. I have waiting for those darn ramps!)
Quoted message said:
So any reason to not use the road parts? I've got an 8 speed setup now, but might convert to 9 when I start replacing this stuff.
road parts tend to be a bit more expensive at least around here..
Quoted message said:
Will a 9 speed crankset work well with 8 speed chain and front der? In case I get a deal and want to start the conversion there.
good question.. if the ring spacing is the same then yes, if not then maybe not.
Is there any reason to not use a Shimano road cassette on an off-road drivetrain? Either 8 speed or 9 speed?
The cassettes I see offered for mountain bikes have cogs I will never use on both ends. Seems that getting more choices of useful gears would be better than having a 30, 32, 34 I never use never mind the 11 or 12 I don't have enough torque or large enough hills for. Something like a 13-28 would be great, but isn't sold as a "mountain" cassette.
FWIW I've been using a 7 speed Dura-ace UNIGLIDE thread on rear cassette on my 8 speed XT setup.. (it runs silently and shifts cleanly when I want it to.. I have waiting for those darn ramps!)
Quoted message said:
So any reason to not use the road parts? I've got an 8 speed setup now, but might convert to 9 when I start replacing this stuff.
road parts tend to be a bit more expensive at least around here..
Quoted message said:
Will a 9 speed crankset work well with 8 speed chain and front der? In case I get a deal and want to start the conversion there.
good question.. if the ring spacing is the same then yes, if not then maybe not.
Is there any reason to not use a Shimano road cassette on an off-road drivetrain? Either 8 speed or 9 speed?
The cassettes I see offered for mountain bikes have cogs I will never use on both ends. Seems that getting more choices of useful gears would be better than having a 30, 32, 34 I never use never mind the 11 or 12 I don't have enough torque or large enough hills for. Something like a 13-28 would be great, but isn't sold as a "mountain" cassette.
FWIW I've been using a 7 speed Dura-ace UNIGLIDE thread on rear cassette on my 8 speed XT setup.. (it runs silently and shifts cleanly when I want it to.. I have waiting for those darn ramps!)
Quoted message said:
So any reason to not use the road parts? I've got an 8 speed setup now, but might convert to 9 when I start replacing this stuff.
road parts tend to be a bit more expensive at least around here..
Quoted message said:
Will a 9 speed crankset work well with 8 speed chain and front der? In case I get a deal and want to start the conversion there.
good question.. if the ring spacing is the same then yes, if not then maybe not.
Is there any reason to not use a Shimano road cassette on an off-road drivetrain? Either 8 speed or 9 speed?
Nope
Quoted message said:
The cassettes I see offered for mountain bikes have cogs I will never use on both ends. Seems that getting more choices of useful gears would be better than having a 30, 32, 34 I never use never mind the 11 or 12 I don't have enough torque or large enough hills for. Something like a 13-28 would be great, but isn't sold as a "mountain" cassette.
So any reason to not use the road parts? I've got an 8 speed setup now, but might convert to 9 when I start replacing this stuff.
Nope again...the cogsets, regardless of size, are essentially the same and cross compatible w/o any issue other than PERHAPS needing to shorten the chain a wee bit.
Quoted message said:
Will a 9 speed crankset work well with 8 speed chain and front der? In case I get a deal and want to start the conversion there.
Is there any reason to not use a Shimano road cassette on an off-road drivetrain? Either 8 speed or 9 speed?
Nope
Quoted message said:
The cassettes I see offered for mountain bikes have cogs I will never use on both ends. Seems that getting more choices of useful gears would be better than having a 30, 32, 34 I never use never mind the 11 or 12 I don't have enough torque or large enough hills for. Something like a 13-28 would be great, but isn't sold as a "mountain" cassette.
So any reason to not use the road parts? I've got an 8 speed setup now, but might convert to 9 when I start replacing this stuff.
Nope again...the cogsets, regardless of size, are essentially the same and cross compatible w/o any issue other than PERHAPS needing to shorten the chain a wee bit.
Quoted message said:
Will a 9 speed crankset work well with 8 speed chain and front der? In case I get a deal and want to start the conversion there.
Is there any reason to not use a Shimano road cassette on an off-road drivetrain? Either 8 speed or 9 speed?
Nope
Quoted message said:
The cassettes I see offered for mountain bikes have cogs I will never use on both ends. Seems that getting more choices of useful gears would be better than having a 30, 32, 34 I never use never mind the 11 or 12 I don't have enough torque or large enough hills for. Something like a 13-28 would be great, but isn't sold as a "mountain" cassette.
So any reason to not use the road parts? I've got an 8 speed setup now, but might convert to 9 when I start replacing this stuff.
Nope again...the cogsets, regardless of size, are essentially the same and cross compatible w/o any issue other than PERHAPS needing to shorten the chain a wee bit.
Quoted message said:
Will a 9 speed crankset work well with 8 speed chain and front der? In case I get a deal and want to start the conversion there.
Is there any reason to not use a Shimano road cassette on an off-road drivetrain? Either 8 speed or 9 speed?
Nope
Quoted message said:
The cassettes I see offered for mountain bikes have cogs I will never use on both ends. Seems that getting more choices of useful gears would be better than having a 30, 32, 34 I never use never mind the 11 or 12 I don't have enough torque or large enough hills for. Something like a 13-28 would be great, but isn't sold as a "mountain" cassette.
So any reason to not use the road parts? I've got an 8 speed setup now, but might convert to 9 when I start replacing this stuff.
Nope again...the cogsets, regardless of size, are essentially the same and cross compatible w/o any issue other than PERHAPS needing to shorten the chain a wee bit.
Quoted message said:
Will a 9 speed crankset work well with 8 speed chain and front der? In case I get a deal and want to start the conversion there.
Is there any reason to not use a Shimano road cassette on an off-road drivetrain? Either 8 speed or 9 speed?
Nope
Quoted message said:
The cassettes I see offered for mountain bikes have cogs I will never use on both ends. Seems that getting more choices of useful gears would be better than having a 30, 32, 34 I never use never mind the 11 or 12 I don't have enough torque or large enough hills for. Something like a 13-28 would be great, but isn't sold as a "mountain" cassette.
So any reason to not use the road parts? I've got an 8 speed setup now, but might convert to 9 when I start replacing this stuff.
Nope again...the cogsets, regardless of size, are essentially the same and cross compatible w/o any issue other than PERHAPS needing to shorten the chain a wee bit.
Quoted message said:
Will a 9 speed crankset work well with 8 speed chain and front der? In case I get a deal and want to start the conversion there.
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 02:52:22 GMT, RonSonic <[email hidden]>
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Is there any reason to not use a Shimano road cassette on an off-road drivetrain? Either 8 speed or 9 speed?
No. Shimano from 8s onwards are completely compatible with each other for the same amount of cogs, and in fact everything except the right shifter and the cassette are the same, as well.
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Will a 9 speed crankset work well with 8 speed chain and front der? In case I get a deal and want to start the conversion there.
An 8 speed crankset will work with 9s in rear very nearly as well as a 9s crankset, though. Only thing you really need is a new cassette and, for index shifting, a new shifter.
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 02:52:22 GMT, RonSonic <[email hidden]>
Quoted message said:
Is there any reason to not use a Shimano road cassette on an off-road drivetrain? Either 8 speed or 9 speed?
No. Shimano from 8s onwards are completely compatible with each other for the same amount of cogs, and in fact everything except the right shifter and the cassette are the same, as well.
Quoted message said:
Will a 9 speed crankset work well with 8 speed chain and front der? In case I get a deal and want to start the conversion there.
An 8 speed crankset will work with 9s in rear very nearly as well as a 9s crankset, though. Only thing you really need is a new cassette and, for index shifting, a new shifter.
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 02:52:22 GMT, RonSonic <[email hidden]>
Quoted message said:
Is there any reason to not use a Shimano road cassette on an off-road drivetrain? Either 8 speed or 9 speed?
No. Shimano from 8s onwards are completely compatible with each other for the same amount of cogs, and in fact everything except the right shifter and the cassette are the same, as well.
Quoted message said:
Will a 9 speed crankset work well with 8 speed chain and front der? In case I get a deal and want to start the conversion there.
An 8 speed crankset will work with 9s in rear very nearly as well as a 9s crankset, though. Only thing you really need is a new cassette and, for index shifting, a new shifter.
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 02:52:22 GMT, RonSonic <[email hidden]>
Quoted message said:
Is there any reason to not use a Shimano road cassette on an off-road drivetrain? Either 8 speed or 9 speed?
No. Shimano from 8s onwards are completely compatible with each other for the same amount of cogs, and in fact everything except the right shifter and the cassette are the same, as well.
Quoted message said:
Will a 9 speed crankset work well with 8 speed chain and front der? In case I get a deal and want to start the conversion there.
An 8 speed crankset will work with 9s in rear very nearly as well as a 9s crankset, though. Only thing you really need is a new cassette and, for index shifting, a new shifter.
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 02:52:22 GMT, RonSonic <[email hidden]>
Quoted message said:
Is there any reason to not use a Shimano road cassette on an off-road drivetrain? Either 8 speed or 9 speed?
No. Shimano from 8s onwards are completely compatible with each other for the same amount of cogs, and in fact everything except the right shifter and the cassette are the same, as well.
Quoted message said:
Will a 9 speed crankset work well with 8 speed chain and front der? In case I get a deal and want to start the conversion there.
An 8 speed crankset will work with 9s in rear very nearly as well as a 9s crankset, though. Only thing you really need is a new cassette and, for index shifting, a new shifter.
ah no the cassettee's are not the same and it's possible that the application needs a ring shim allowing the cassette lock ring to thread down tight. take one road and one ATB in each hand( you got two hands right?) and gander at the cassette's inboard big cluster side. the LBS may have a shim selection. get the spectrum and try getting the cassette on mit shim if the lock ring doesn't screw down tight or doesn't enter the thread when tried without shims. i run atb on the road ( no chrome-14 bottom plus 34 custom top)-the thread entry finesses with opening the standard spacer's (this is the custom cog spacer plus .5mm shim) holes to accept the ATB's inboard spacer bumps-and this goes on correctly in one position only!
ah no the cassettee's are not the same and it's possible that the application needs a ring shim allowing the cassette lock ring to thread down tight. take one road and one ATB in each hand( you got two hands right?) and gander at the cassette's inboard big cluster side. the LBS may have a shim selection. get the spectrum and try getting the cassette on mit shim if the lock ring doesn't screw down tight or doesn't enter the thread when tried without shims. i run atb on the road ( no chrome-14 bottom plus 34 custom top)-the thread entry finesses with opening the standard spacer's (this is the custom cog spacer plus .5mm shim) holes to accept the ATB's inboard spacer bumps-and this goes on correctly in one position only!
