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Dura-Ace crank problems?

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  1. My bike had developed a strange ticking noise which I finally traced to my
    right crank/pedal interface. At 3 O'clock the pedal would get "set" and at
    around 11 it would click to "unset" itself--these were imperceptible
    movements of the pedal axle in the crank. So I removed the pedal, greased,
    and re-installed it.

    I also noticed a lot of fretting at the face of the crank arm where it
    attaches to the pedal. The last 1/3 of the pedal threads had a lot of fine
    metallic powder on them. I suspect that I must have neglected to grease the
    pedal when I first installed it.... but all this fretting in only 5000 miles
    seems a wee bit scary. I weight less than 195 these days and no one would
    call me a strong rider... so what gives?

    The cranks on there are 7700 Dura-Ace, and the chainrings also seem to have
    a lot of blistering on the surface. Did Shimano change anything for 7701?
    Are Ultegra cranks any different, other than about $80 cheaper for 30 grams
    heavier?

    Cheers, Shawn

    PS: I have found one reference to speculation that Ultegra cranks may use a
    softer alloy with perhaps less precise teeth cut in the octalink, any
    experience with this?

  2. Shawn Amir wrote in message ...

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    My bike had developed a strange ticking noise which I finally traced to my
    right crank/pedal interface. At 3 O'clock the pedal would get "set" and at
    around 11 it would click to "unset" itself--these were imperceptible
    movements of the pedal axle in the crank. So I removed the pedal, greased,
    and re-installed it.

    I also noticed a lot of fretting at the face of the crank arm where it
    attaches to the pedal. The last 1/3 of the pedal threads had a lot of fine
    metallic powder on them. I suspect that I must have neglected to grease


    the

    Quoted message said:

    pedal when I first installed it.... but all this fretting in only 5000


    miles

    Quoted message said:

    seems a wee bit scary. I weight less than 195 these days and no one would
    call me a strong rider... so what gives?

    Install pedal with a pedal spanner. Oil is sufficient for assembly, grease
    will slowly migrate from area of high pressure leaving attachment not quite
    as tight as envisaged.

    Trevor

  3. Shawn Amir said:

    I also noticed a lot of fretting at the face of the crank arm where it
    attaches to the pedal. The last 1/3 of the pedal threads had a lot of fine
    metallic powder on them. I suspect that I must have neglected to grease the
    pedal when I first installed it.... but all this fretting in only 5000 miles
    seems a wee bit scary. I weight less than 195 these days and no one would
    call me a strong rider... so what gives?

    They all get chewed up like that (TA recommend the use of a washer
    between the pedal and their cranks). The only broken cranks that I've
    seen both went at the pedal end.

  4. Zog The Undeniable wrote in message <4132d56d.0@entanet>...

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    Shawn Amir said:

    I also noticed a lot of fretting at the face of the crank arm where it
    attaches to the pedal. The last 1/3 of the pedal threads had a lot of


    fine

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    metallic powder on them. I suspect that I must have neglected to grease


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    pedal when I first installed it.... but all this fretting in only 5000


    miles

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    seems a wee bit scary. I weight less than 195 these days and no one


    would

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    call me a strong rider... so what gives?

    They all get chewed up like that (TA recommend the use of a washer
    between the pedal and their cranks). The only broken cranks that I've
    seen both went at the pedal end.

    Quality pedals have the thread taper out,leaving a gap between pedal axle
    boss and thread so removing the stress raiser which would otherwise exist at
    the face of the crank at the pedal eye. A taper on the pedal eye will
    reduce the stress raiser.

    I wonder when and why TA recommended this practice of fitting washers, it
    should have no significance with normal materials. I think it would have a
    detrimental effect, because it would be taking the axle thread to the face
    of the crank so negating the advantageous thread form of the axle.

    Trevor

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