Durable 23c or 25c Road Tires - Recommendations?



On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 02:00:03 GMT, Victor Kan
<[email protected]_UCEloopdrive.net> wrote:

>Steve Sr. wrote:
> > ...and more importantly avoiding tube pinches.

>
>Do you mean snake bite pinch flats, or tube pinches between the tire
>bead and the rim?


These failures seem to be snake bite or 1/2 snake bite from running on
rough rural roads. Tube under the bead should probably blow when
inflating the tire not 10 miles down the road.

>
>I guess just be careful to top off your tire pressure prior to rides, be
>careful when mounting tires, and use properly sized,
>non-super-duper-lightweight tubes.
>
>> Any particular brands/styles of tires to avoid?
>>
>> It also wouldn't hurt if they were periodically on sale at a place
>> like Performance. : - )

>
>Since you mention Performance, I've had good luck with their Forte Pro
>tire in the 23-622 size:
>
>http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?SKU=11461&subcategory_ID=5420
>
>The only flats I've had on it were of the valve tear-out variety (a
>number of Performance brand tubes), i.e. a tube defect (or a pumping
>technique defect on my part).
>
>I've used it mainly as a front tire though, and for the rear tire I have
>a Specialized Turbo Sport 26-622 (OEM tire with my bike) that has been
>good as well, though it has gotten more cuts and gouges than the Forte
>Pro (likely a consequence of being a rear tire under a heavy rider, i.e.
>me :), enough for me to replace it after maybe 1,000 miles after the
>OEM tube tore at a seam and blew, giving me a good opportunity to
>examine the tire carefully.
 
"Mike Kruger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "John Forrest Tomlinson" <[email protected]> wrote in
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> > On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 21:09:24 -0500, "Earl Bollinger"
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Maxxis Detonators

> >
> > Is it just me, or does that seem like a poor choice of

name
> for a bike
> > tire?
> >

> Is the Maxxis Hookworm any better?
>
> http://www.mtbr.com/reviews/Tire/product_87117.shtml
>

Actually Maxxis has a bunch of odd names.
For those with self-esteem issues, there's the Maxxis Minion
Like to gamble? There's the Maxxis High Roller
Are you a flashy cyclist? There's the Maxxis Lopes BlingBling
Going on a Tour of Sicily? There's the Maxxis Mobster
There's also the Maxxis Xenith (sic), possibly for warrior
princesses with high points?
 
John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 21:09:24 -0500, "Earl Bollinger"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Maxxis Detonators

>
>
> Is it just me, or does that seem like a poor choice of name for a bike
> tire?


Not just you. It makes me laugh every time I read it.
 
Continental Grand Prix 3000 tires, 25mm.
Excellent low-leakage tubes (michelin).
KEEP THEM INFLATED !!

I never had a pinch flat, despite weighing 225 lbs.
If you ride a 23mm tire you will suffer a death of 1000 pinches !!!

- Don Gillies
San Diego, CA
 
Craig:

I don't mean to be rude, but your opinion doesn't count. See, you are
150lbs. Those of us having the concerns with flats are what you would
probably refer to as "fatsos". So, stick to things that you know about,
like, how to go fast uphill, how to drop fatsos on sprints, corners or
any ride that has more than 0.00001% grade, and riding on very light
bikes. Leave the discussion about flats to us, experts, in this topic.
To have expertise, you need to be closer to 200lbs and get drop just
because you think about a hill. If you look anything like Homer
Simpson, your are welcome to participate. Otherwise, stock to other
topics. Thx,

Andres

colocraig wrote:
> After 3000 miles without a flat (I'll be sorry I said that), I can
> recommend the 25 mm Michelin Carbon tires. My usage has been 90% on
> paved roads, but the other 10% has been dirt and fine gravel without
> any problems yet. They ride just fine. I'm 150 lbs and use 100 psi in
> front and 110 in the rear.
 
On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 21:38:18 -0400, Steve Sr. <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Hello,
>
>I am looking for some recommendations for some durable road tires that
>are fairly resistant to punctures and more importantly avoiding tube
>pinches. The roads that I ride on are mostly rural with varying
>surface qualities. The worst being tar and gravel.
>
>I only weigh about 160 pounds but the bike has a fairly upright riding
>position which transfers most of the weight to the rear tire. I am
>finding that this leads to pinch flats even with tires inflated to
>120psi which is the current tires maximum. I think the issue on the
>tire is too many pounds and not enough square inches to distribute it.
>
>Any preference between wire bead (non folding) or kevlar (folding)
>bead types? I guess the folding variety weigh less but may also have
>limitations on how much pressure they will hold.
>
>Any particular brands/styles of tires to avoid?
>
>It also wouldn't hurt if they were periodically on sale at a place
>like Performance. : - )
>
>Thanks,
>
>Steve



Thanks for everyone's suggestions. I finally decided on a pair of
Continental Ultra Gatorskins. The ultra 2000 came in a close second.
I'll give them a test run tomorrowon n metric MS training ride.

So, what has Continental done with their new run of tires that now
have a black sidewall instead of the older brown sidewall? Was there a
reason behind this change?

Thanks,

Steve
 
In article <[email protected]>,
Steve Sr. <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 21:38:18 -0400, Steve Sr. <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >Hello,
> >
> >I am looking for some recommendations for some durable road tires that
> >are fairly resistant to punctures and more importantly avoiding tube
> >pinches. The roads that I ride on are mostly rural with varying
> >surface qualities. The worst being tar and gravel.
> >
> >I only weigh about 160 pounds but the bike has a fairly upright riding
> >position which transfers most of the weight to the rear tire. I am
> >finding that this leads to pinch flats even with tires inflated to
> >120psi which is the current tires maximum. I think the issue on the
> >tire is too many pounds and not enough square inches to distribute it.
> >
> >Any preference between wire bead (non folding) or kevlar (folding)
> >bead types? I guess the folding variety weigh less but may also have
> >limitations on how much pressure they will hold.
> >
> >Any particular brands/styles of tires to avoid?
> >
> >It also wouldn't hurt if they were periodically on sale at a place
> >like Performance. : - )
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Steve

>
>
> Thanks for everyone's suggestions. I finally decided on a pair of
> Continental Ultra Gatorskins. The ultra 2000 came in a close second.
> I'll give them a test run tomorrowon n metric MS training ride.
>
> So, what has Continental done with their new run of tires that now
> have a black sidewall instead of the older brown sidewall? Was there a
> reason behind this change?


I wrote them a letter telling them that the brown does not
go with my silver and black bicycle, and that I would not
buy their tires until they changed to black side-walls.

--
Michael Press
 
Steve Sr. wrote:

> So, what has Continental done with their new run of tires that now
> have a black sidewall instead of the older brown sidewall?


Increased the price.


>Was there a
> reason behind this change?


As MP reports, fashion and fashion only. If two tires of the same model
are offered in black and brownwall, the black outsells the brown by
something like 6:1, as I'm sure the shop owners here will attest, more
or less.

The blackwalls are or at least should be more resistant to UV
degradation, while the transparent/brown allow you to better see the
condition of the cords. Neither really matters, except for those
leaving their bikes outside under an ozone hole.

Continental had some sidewall or at least chafing strip problems
previously and the change allows an easy marker to the new production
which corrected the problem (changing the chafing strip from cotton to
synthetic).

Finally: the black are ugly and nothing beats the traditional look of
tan or brown sidewalls.
 
colocraig wrote:
> After 3000 miles without a flat (I'll be sorry I said that), I can
> recommend the 25 mm Michelin Carbon tires. My usage has been 90% on
> paved roads, but the other 10% has been dirt and fine gravel without
> any problems yet. They ride just fine. I'm 150 lbs and use 100 psi in
> front and 110 in the rear.
>

Craig

Do you have 'goatheads' or similar thorns where you are? That's my
biggest problem here and it's a real issue too. I've had a nail or two,
but mostly it's these long three sided thorns which do my tires in.

Do you use sealant in your tubes? Tire liners?

-paul
 
Paul Cassel wrote:
> Do you have 'goatheads' or similar thorns where you are? That's my
> biggest problem here and it's a real issue too. I've had a nail or
> two, but mostly it's these long three sided thorns which do my tires
> in.


Since switching to Conti Ultra Gatorskins and keeping an eye on tire
pressure I've had no flats in a good while now. So far, so good!

> Do you use sealant in your tubes? Tire liners?


I don't use either on my road bike. On my MTB I use liners.
---
Splat