Zounds! My 2003 Trek 4100 ridden at least 500 miles just sold for 177.50 on e-bay. And that doesn't count shipping. I mentioned all of this in the ad: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBa- yISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3664187071 My buyer has e-mailed me back and says, "I can't believe I got the bike for so cheap is there anything I should know about it." Uh, yeah, me either. I'd better go to bat for this guy on shipping I want him to save *some* money over the store. Anybody knowledgeable about that sort of thing? -- - Joel C.