Why don't you just reply to the guy... "Ken Papai" <
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> Please read this "Eric R. Gott SPAM KING needs the $$$$" <
[email protected]>
>
> Use rec.bicycles.marketplace for selling bikes and bike parts. This newsgroup is about Racing of
> Bikes, teams, strategy, races, and is *not your personal "For Sale" platform* Thanks!
>
> rec.bicycles.marketplace: Bicycles, components, ancillary equipment and services wanted or for
> sale, reviews of such things, places to buy them, and evaluations of these sources. Not for
> discussion of general engineering, maintenance, or repair -- see rec.bicycles.tech
>
> rec.bicycles.racing: Race results, racing techniques, rules, and organizations. Not Wanted To Buy
> (WTB) Nor racing equipment -- see rec.bicycles.marketplace or rec.bicycles.tech
>
> Advertising on Usenet is a frequently misunderstood subject. The purpose of this message is to
> explain some Usenet conventions regarding
advertising
> to new users and, hopefully, spare everyone involved a lot of needless worry.
>
> To start with, let's define the term. "Usenet" is *not* synonymous with "Internet." Usenet is the
> system of online discussion groups, called "newsgroups," e.g. rec.humor, comp.misc,
> news.announce.newusers,
> attempt to describe in detail all the various ways in which one can conduct commercial activity
> over the Internet and attempts simply to explain the issues involved in advertising in Usenet
> newsgroups.
>
> The philosophy of Usenet
> ------------------------
> Usenet started out in 1980 as a UNIX network linking sites which needed to talk about and receive
> prompt updates on UNIX system configuration and other UNIX questions. Message traffic started out
> at a few
messages/year...
> In the beginning, Usenet was largely confined to educational institutions such as universities and
> colleges, and to research companies and other commercial enterprises with UNIX machines on-site.
> It has now grown to include millions of users at commercial sites such as America Online...
>
> That these customs and traditions began when Usenet was much smaller and quite different in nature
> in no way lessens the anger many users feel when these customs and traditions are violated. One
> such custom is the
tradition
> and belief that it is rude to advertise for profit in Usenet newsgroups.
>
> Advertising is widely seen as an 'off-topic' intrusion into the discussions of any particular
> newsgroup (newsgroup is the Usenet word for discussion group or bulletin board). Each newsgroup
> has a specific set of subjects it is intended to cover, and in order for newsgroups to function as
> effective discussion forums, it is important that people stay 'on-topic'. If everyone - even a
> meager 10% of newsgroup posters - disregarded the particular topics each newsgroup is intended to
> cover and simply posted whatever they wanted wherever they want, the entire system would break
> down into chaos and meaninglessness.
>
> Due to the decentralized nature of Usenet, there is no one person or body which can "enforce" the
> custom of staying on-topic. It falls on each user to help preserve the culture of open discussion
> and free speech that Usenet has come to embody by not posting off-topic material.
>
> This, of course, includes advertising. Advertising is by far the most pervasive form of off-topic
> posting, and therefore, gets most of the heat.
>
> An analogy
> ----------
> If an analogy will help you to visualize the situation, imagine a meeting at your workplace
> or school.
>
> At this meeting, people are discussing a certain issue -- for example, getting new sidewalks
> installed downtown or getting new schoolbooks for the elementary school, or what to do about the
> new product your company is planning on introducing.
>
> In the midst of the discussions on the new sidewalks or textbooks or product, someone walks into
> the room, interrupts everyone, then reads an advertisement for a local restaurant. He or she then
> leaves without waiting for comment.
>
> Now imagine if this happened over and over again each time your group tried to hold a meeting.
> Every time someone tried to make a point, in walks some other stranger who reads an ad for some
> business that has nothing to do with the subject of the meeting.
>
> It would soon become rather difficult to hold effective meetings, wouldn't it?
>
> Similarly, it's very difficult to keep Usenet newsgroups interesting and useful when people deluge
> newsgroups with advertisements.
>
> How to advertise on Usenet
> --------------------------
> *.forsale and *.marketplace newsgroups
>
> There are many newsgroups directly involved in selling. You can generally spot them by the word
> "forsale" or "marketplace" in their names.
>
> For example, rec.games.board.marketplace is a newsgroup where people post for-sale and want-to-buy
> notices about board games they want to buy or sell.
>
> Similarly, the misc.forsale.* hierarchy is full of newsgroups for buying and selling various
> computers, monitors, printers, devices, and so forth, as well as misc.forsale.non-computer.*, for
> selling stuff.
>
> You can access the FAQ and archives via the Web using these URLs:
>
>
http://draco.acs.uci.edu/rbfaq/
>
http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/bicycles-faq/top.html
>
> "Eric SPAM KING needs the $$$$" <
[email protected]> wrote ...
> > I am auctioning a 54cm Colnago in the Mapei team colors. I am going to
> buy
> > a cross bike and need the money. The frame is a Master Extra light from
> 2000.
> > The fork is a Prescia steel (STEEL?????) straight blade in matching
> colors. The frameset
> > is a 9.5 out of 10 in condition. Just abnormally low wear and tear for
a
> > 1999-year bike. There are less than 5 chips in the paint on the entire bike!!!!!!! The bike
> > comes equipped with full Ultegra and brand new
> (never
> > ridden) Ultegra STI levers. You can guarantee perfect shifting with the
> new
> > levers. The wheels are 105 (cheap)/Mavic CXP21. The wheels are brand
new
> too! I
> > have never ridden the wheels. I want to keep my wheels and am supplying them at no additional
> > charge. The saddle is a 135gram Selle Italia SLR. The bar and stem are ITM threaded (100mm). I
> > have Cinelli Spinacci ultralights on the bars for the long rides. The seatpost is an American
> > Classics aluminum post. No pedals. Pictures are available upon request (serious requests only).
> > THIS BIKE ROCKS!!!!!! I wish I could keep it,
> but my
> > race bike (C40w/Record) and a new cross bike sound like a better pair.
>
> Eric the Fred.
> >
> >
> > Eric
> >
> >
[email protected]
>
>
> > take off the nospam in the email address to email me.
> >
>