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  1. Seems erythrocytosis .. too many red blood cells .. and polycythemia .. are .. the same ..

    The marker used to assess polycythemia {too many red blood cells] is set by .. cost.

    The higher the marker {red blood cells] to eliminate 'false positives' ..

    So .. do YOU have the iron levels of a pre-menopausal woman?

    You know that .. anemic .. one .. ?

    THAT is the level research has shown to be the healthiest.

    ---------------------------------------------------------
    Thus, although individuals at high risk for ASCVD are not Fe-overloaded, they seem to benefit,
    metabolically and hemodynamically, from lowering of body Fe to levels commonly seen in
    premenopausal females.

    PMID: 12079862
    --------------------------------------------------------

    Chest 1990 Nov;98(5):1073-7

    Exercise performance of polycythemic chronic obstructive pulmonary disease patients. Effect of
    phlebotomies.

    Chetty KG, Light RW, Stansbury DW, Milne N

    Department of Medicine, VA Medical Center, Long Beach, CA 90822.

    The purpose of this study was to determine the effects of phlebotomy on the exercise tolerance
    and right and left ventricular ejection fraction of polycythemic patients with chronic
    obstructive pulmonary disease. Ten patients with COPD (mean FEV1 = 1.32 +/- 0.55 L) and
    polycythemia (mean Hct = 62 +/- 3 percent) were studied before and after their hematocrits had
    been reduced to approximately 50 percent. Post-phlebotomy the maximal oxygen consumption
    increased from 1.09 +/- .34 L/min to 1.26 +/- 0.43 L/min (p less than 0.05) and the maximum
    workload increased from 56.5 +/- 32.6 watts to 74.5 +/- 23.4 watts (p less than 0.05). The
    increase in the exercise tolerance appeared to be primarily due to an increased cardiac output at
    Emax. There was no relationship between the increases in the upright exercise capacity and
    changes in the supine ejection fractions of the right or left ventricular either at rest or
    during exercise.

    PMID: 2225946, UI: 91030710
    _________________________________________________________________

    Int J Cardiol 1994 Apr;44(2):175-7

    Effects of phlebotomy on a patient with secondary polycythemia and angina pectoris.

    Piccirillo G, Fimognari FL, Valdivia JL, Marigliano V

    Cattedra di Geriatria e Gerontologia Universita, La Sapienza, Rome, Italy.

    A 67-year-old man with polycythemia, secondary to chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, had
    angina attacks at rest treated successfully by supplementing conventional therapy with frequent
    phlebotomies. Although phlebotomy reduces arterial oxygen content, it also decreases blood
    viscosity, improves peripheral oxygen consumption and thus yields the clinical benefit.

    PMID: 8045664, UI: 94321077
    _________________________________________________________________

    Respiration 1979;38(6):305-13

    Phlebotomy improves pulmonary gas exchange in chronic mountain polycythemia.

    Cruz JC, Diaz C, Marticorena E, Hilario V

    There is not unanimous agreement in the literature regarding the effects of bleeding on pulmonary
    gas exchange in polycythemic patients. Spirometry, alveolar arterial O2 and CO2 tension
    differences, PaO2 breathing 100% oxygen and carbon monoxide-diffusing capacity were measured
    before and after 1 week of chronic phlebotomy in 4 chronic mountain polycythemic patients.
    Studies were carried out at 3,700 m above sea level (PB = 491 mm Hg). Before phlebotomy, 2
    patients showed abnormal spirometry and gas exchange. Only 1 patient had high PaCO2 and all of
    them showed low values of PaO2 breathing oxygen. Phlebotomy improved both spirometry and gas
    exchange. Improvement in arterial oxygen saturation and PaO2 could not be attributed to changes
    in alveolar ventilation, but rather to better distribution of VA/Qc ratios since physiological
    dead space decreased. Our results are similar to those reported in polycythemia vera patients. A
    significant correlation between the changes in PaO2 with phlebotomy and the control PaO2 have
    been found from 45 polycythemic patients with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease collected
    from the literature. It is concluded that excessive polycythemia worsened hypoxemia and that
    phlebotomy improved gas exchange.

    PMID: 538338, UI: 80146854
    _________________________________________________________________

    Am J Med 1983 Mar;74(3):415-20

    Improved exercise tolerance of the polycythemic lung patient following phlebotomy.

    Chetty KG, Brown SE, Light RW

    The present study evaluated the effects of therapeutic phlebotomy on the exercise tolerance and
    the maximal carbon dioxide output of polycythemic patients with chronic obstructive pulmonary
    disease. Fifteen maximal exercise studies were performed before and after phlebotomy in patients
    with moderate to severe chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (mean forced expiratory volume in
    one second [FEV1]= 970 ml). After phlebotomy there were no significant differences in pulmonary
    function, blood gases, oxygen consumption, or carbon dioxide production at rest. However, after
    phlebotomy there was a significant increase in the exercise tolerance of the patients. The mean
    workload, the duration of exercise, the maximal oxygen consumption, the maximal carbon dioxide
    production, and the ventilation at maximal exercise all increased significantly. The improved
    exercise tolerance after phlebotomy appeared due to an increased cardiac output generated mainly
    through an increased stroke volume. We hypothesize that the increased stroke volume was due to a
    higher ejection fraction of the right ventricle secondary to a lower pulmonary artery pressure.
    This study provides further evidence that patients with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease
    who have polycythemia benefit by therapeutic interventions that maintain their hematocrits below
    55 percent.

    PMID: 6402930, UI: 83149913
    _________________________________________________________________

    Surgery 1980 Nov;88(5):686-92

    Increased oxygen uptake following phlebotomy and simultaneous fluid replacement in
    polycythemic patients.

    Shah DM, Powers SR Jr, Bernard HR, Scovill WA, Newell JC, Stratton HH

    To study the isolated effects of decreased hemoglobin concentration without volume loss, eight
    patients with the diagnosis of polycythemia were studied following acute phlebotomy and
    simultaneous volume replacement. These patients had been treated previously by repeated
    phlebotomy, without volume replacement, to a hemoglobin level of 14.8 +/- 0.5 gm%. Following
    hemodilution by additional phlebotomy and volume replacement, which further lowered the mean
    hemoglobin level to
    11.4 +/- 0.4 gm%, cardiac index increased significantly from 2.8 +/- .3 to 3.5 +/- 0. 3
    liter/min/m(2) (P<0.05), oxygen delivery did not change, but total body oxygen consumption
    increased significantly from 140 +/- 16 to 180 +/- 15 ml/min/m(2) (P<0.05). Mixed venous PO2,
    systemic and pulmonary vascular resistance decreased significantly (P<0.05). Vascular
    pressure, heart rate, intrapulmonary shunt, arterial pH and bicarbonate, limb blood flow, limb
    oxygen delivery and limb oxygen consumption did not change. Thus, with phlebotomy and fluid
    replacement, a reduction of hemoglobin concentration to a subnormal level increased oxygen
    consumption without lowering oxygen delivery.

    PMID: 7434209, UI: 81056744
    _________________________________________________________________

    Who loves ya. Tom

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  2. Please pardon my ignorance, but exactly what is "phlebotomy"?
    TIA for your help.
    Wanda
    "doe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Seems erythrocytosis .. too many red blood cells .. and polycythemia ..


    are ..

    Quoted message said:

    the same ..

    The marker used to assess polycythemia {too many red blood cells] is set


    by ..

    Quoted message said:

    cost.

    The higher the marker {red blood cells] to eliminate 'false positives' ..

    So .. do YOU have the iron levels of a pre-menopausal woman?

    You know that .. anemic .. one .. ?

    THAT is the level research has shown to be the healthiest.

    ---------------------------------------------------------
    Thus, although individuals at high risk for ASCVD are not Fe-overloaded, they seem to benefit,
    metabolically and hemodynamically, from lowering of body Fe to levels


    commonly

    Quoted message said:

    seen in premenopausal females.

    PMID: 12079862
    --------------------------------------------------------

    Chest 1990 Nov;98(5):1073-7

    Exercise performance of polycythemic chronic obstructive pulmonary disease patients. Effect of
    phlebotomies.

    Chetty KG, Light RW, Stansbury DW, Milne N

    Department of Medicine, VA Medical Center, Long Beach, CA 90822.

    The purpose of this study was to determine the effects of phlebotomy on the exercise tolerance
    and right and left ventricular ejection fraction of polycythemic patients with chronic
    obstructive pulmonary disease. Ten patients with COPD (mean FEV1 = 1.32 +/- 0.55 L) and
    polycythemia (mean Hct = 62 +/- 3 percent) were studied before and after their hematocrits had
    been reduced to approximately 50 percent. Post-phlebotomy the maximal oxygen consumption
    increased from 1.09 +/- .34 L/min to 1.26 +/- 0.43 L/min (p less than 0.05) and the maximum
    workload increased from 56.5 +/- 32.6 watts to 74.5 +/- 23.4 watts (p less than 0.05). The
    increase in the exercise tolerance appeared to be primarily due to an increased cardiac output
    at Emax. There was no relationship between the increases in the upright exercise capacity and
    changes in the supine ejection fractions of the right or left ventricular either at rest or
    during exercise.

    PMID: 2225946, UI: 91030710
    _________________________________________________________________

    Int J Cardiol 1994 Apr;44(2):175-7

    Effects of phlebotomy on a patient with secondary polycythemia and angina pectoris.

    Piccirillo G, Fimognari FL, Valdivia JL, Marigliano V

    Cattedra di Geriatria e Gerontologia Universita, La Sapienza, Rome, Italy.

    A 67-year-old man with polycythemia, secondary to chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, had
    angina attacks at rest treated successfully by supplementing conventional therapy with frequent
    phlebotomies. Although phlebotomy reduces arterial oxygen content, it also decreases blood
    viscosity, improves peripheral oxygen consumption and thus yields the clinical benefit.

    PMID: 8045664, UI: 94321077
    _________________________________________________________________

    Respiration 1979;38(6):305-13

    Phlebotomy improves pulmonary gas exchange in chronic mountain


    polycythemia.

    Quoted message said:


    Cruz JC, Diaz C, Marticorena E, Hilario V

    There is not unanimous agreement in the literature regarding the effects of bleeding on
    pulmonary gas exchange in polycythemic patients. Spirometry, alveolar arterial O2 and CO2
    tension differences, PaO2 breathing 100% oxygen and carbon monoxide-diffusing capacity were
    measured before and after 1 week of chronic phlebotomy in 4 chronic mountain polycythemic
    patients. Studies were carried out at 3,700 m above sea level (PB = 491 mm Hg). Before
    phlebotomy, 2 patients showed abnormal spirometry and gas exchange. Only 1 patient had high
    PaCO2 and all of them showed low values of PaO2 breathing oxygen. Phlebotomy improved both
    spirometry and gas exchange. Improvement in arterial oxygen saturation and PaO2 could not be
    attributed to changes in alveolar ventilation, but rather to better distribution of VA/Qc
    ratios since physiological dead space decreased. Our results are similar to those reported in
    polycythemia vera patients. A significant correlation between the changes in PaO2 with
    phlebotomy and the control PaO2 have been found from 45 polycythemic patients with chronic
    obstructive pulmonary disease collected from the literature. It is concluded that excessive
    polycythemia worsened hypoxemia and that phlebotomy improved gas exchange.

    PMID: 538338, UI: 80146854
    _________________________________________________________________

    Am J Med 1983 Mar;74(3):415-20

    Improved exercise tolerance of the polycythemic lung patient following phlebotomy.

    Chetty KG, Brown SE, Light RW

    The present study evaluated the effects of therapeutic phlebotomy on the exercise tolerance and
    the maximal carbon dioxide output of polycythemic patients with chronic obstructive pulmonary
    disease. Fifteen maximal exercise studies were performed before and after phlebotomy in
    patients with moderate to severe chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (mean forced expiratory
    volume in one second [FEV1]= 970 ml). After phlebotomy there were no significant differences in
    pulmonary function, blood gases, oxygen consumption, or carbon dioxide production at rest.
    However, after phlebotomy there was a significant increase in the exercise tolerance of the
    patients. The mean workload, the duration of exercise, the maximal oxygen consumption, the
    maximal carbon dioxide production, and the ventilation at maximal exercise all increased
    significantly. The improved exercise tolerance after phlebotomy appeared due to an increased
    cardiac output generated mainly through an increased stroke volume. We hypothesize that the
    increased stroke volume was due to a higher ejection fraction of the right ventricle secondary
    to a lower pulmonary artery pressure. This study provides further evidence that patients with
    chronic obstructive pulmonary disease who have polycythemia benefit by therapeutic
    interventions that maintain their hematocrits below 55 percent.

    PMID: 6402930, UI: 83149913
    _________________________________________________________________

    Surgery 1980 Nov;88(5):686-92

    Increased oxygen uptake following phlebotomy and simultaneous fluid


    replacement

    Quoted message said:

    in polycythemic patients.

    Shah DM, Powers SR Jr, Bernard HR, Scovill WA, Newell JC, Stratton HH

    To study the isolated effects of decreased hemoglobin concentration without volume loss, eight
    patients with the diagnosis of polycythemia were studied following acute phlebotomy and
    simultaneous volume replacement. These patients had been treated previously by repeated
    phlebotomy, without volume replacement, to a hemoglobin level of 14.8 +/- 0.5 gm%. Following
    hemodilution by additional phlebotomy and volume replacement, which further lowered the mean
    hemoglobin level to
    11.4 +/- 0.4 gm%, cardiac index increased significantly from 2.8 +/- .3 to 3.5 +/- 0. 3
    liter/min/m(2) (P<0.05), oxygen delivery did not change, but total body oxygen consumption
    increased significantly from 140 +/- 16 to 180 +/- 15 ml/min/m(2) (P<0.05). Mixed venous
    PO2, systemic and pulmonary vascular resistance decreased significantly (P<0.05). Vascular
    pressure, heart rate, intrapulmonary shunt, arterial pH and bicarbonate, limb blood flow,
    limb oxygen delivery and limb oxygen consumption did not change. Thus, with phlebotomy and
    fluid replacement, a reduction of hemoglobin concentration to a subnormal level increased
    oxygen consumption without lowering oxygen delivery.

    PMID: 7434209, UI: 81056744
    _________________________________________________________________

    Who loves ya. Tom

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  3. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Effects of phlebotomy
    From: "Wanda Schlatter" [email hidden]
    Date: 11/19/2003 10:40 PM Mountain Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Please pardon my ignorance, but exactly what is "phlebotomy"? TIA for your help. Wanda

    Bloodletting / blood donation

    Quoted message said:

    "doe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20031119183401.14053.00000537@mb-
    m15.aol.com...

    Quoted message said:

    Seems erythrocytosis .. too many red blood cells .. and polycythemia ..


    are ..

    Quoted message said:

    the same ..

    The marker used to assess polycythemia {too many red blood cells] is set


    by ..

    Quoted message said:

    cost.

    The higher the marker {red blood cells] to eliminate 'false positives' ..

    So .. do YOU have the iron levels of a pre-menopausal woman?

    You know that .. anemic .. one .. ?

    THAT is the level research has shown to be the healthiest.

    ---------------------------------------------------------
    Thus, although individuals at high risk for ASCVD are not Fe-overloaded, they seem to benefit,
    metabolically and hemodynamically, from lowering of body Fe to levels


    commonly

    Quoted message said:

    seen in premenopausal females.

    PMID: 12079862
    --------------------------------------------------------

    Chest 1990 Nov;98(5):1073-7

    Exercise performance of polycythemic chronic obstructive pulmonary disease patients. Effect of
    phlebotomies.

    Chetty KG, Light RW, Stansbury DW, Milne N

    Department of Medicine, VA Medical Center, Long Beach, CA 90822.

    The purpose of this study was to determine the effects of phlebotomy on the exercise tolerance
    and right and left ventricular ejection fraction of polycythemic patients with chronic
    obstructive pulmonary disease. Ten patients with COPD (mean FEV1 = 1.32 +/- 0.55 L) and
    polycythemia (mean Hct = 62 +/- 3 percent) were studied before and after their hematocrits had
    been reduced to approximately 50 percent. Post-phlebotomy the maximal oxygen consumption
    increased from 1.09 +/- .34 L/min to 1.26 +/- 0.43 L/min (p less than 0.05) and the maximum
    workload increased from 56.5 +/- 32.6 watts to 74.5 +/- 23.4 watts (p less than 0.05). The
    increase in the exercise tolerance appeared to be primarily due to an increased cardiac output
    at Emax. There was no relationship between the increases in the upright exercise capacity and
    changes in the supine ejection fractions of the right or left ventricular either at rest or
    during exercise.

    PMID: 2225946, UI: 91030710
    _________________________________________________________________

    Int J Cardiol 1994 Apr;44(2):175-7

    Effects of phlebotomy on a patient with secondary polycythemia and angina pectoris.

    Piccirillo G, Fimognari FL, Valdivia JL, Marigliano V

    Cattedra di Geriatria e Gerontologia Universita, La Sapienza, Rome, Italy.

    A 67-year-old man with polycythemia, secondary to chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, had
    angina attacks at rest treated successfully by supplementing conventional therapy with
    frequent phlebotomies. Although phlebotomy reduces arterial oxygen content, it also decreases
    blood viscosity, improves peripheral oxygen consumption and thus yields the clinical benefit.

    PMID: 8045664, UI: 94321077
    _________________________________________________________________

    Respiration 1979;38(6):305-13

    Phlebotomy improves pulmonary gas exchange in chronic mountain


    polycythemia.

    Quoted message said:


    Cruz JC, Diaz C, Marticorena E, Hilario V

    There is not unanimous agreement in the literature regarding the effects of bleeding on
    pulmonary gas exchange in polycythemic patients. Spirometry, alveolar arterial O2 and CO2
    tension differences, PaO2 breathing 100% oxygen and carbon monoxide-diffusing capacity were
    measured before and after 1 week of chronic phlebotomy in 4 chronic mountain polycythemic
    patients. Studies were carried out at 3,700 m above sea level (PB = 491 mm Hg). Before
    phlebotomy, 2 patients showed abnormal spirometry and gas exchange. Only 1 patient had high
    PaCO2 and all of them showed low values of PaO2 breathing oxygen. Phlebotomy improved both
    spirometry and gas exchange. Improvement in arterial oxygen saturation and PaO2 could not be
    attributed to changes in alveolar ventilation, but rather to better distribution of VA/Qc
    ratios since physiological dead space decreased. Our results are similar to those reported in
    polycythemia vera patients. A significant correlation between the changes in PaO2 with
    phlebotomy and the control PaO2 have been found from 45 polycythemic patients with chronic
    obstructive pulmonary disease collected from the literature. It is concluded that excessive
    polycythemia worsened hypoxemia and that phlebotomy improved gas exchange.

    PMID: 538338, UI: 80146854
    _________________________________________________________________

    Am J Med 1983 Mar;74(3):415-20

    Improved exercise tolerance of the polycythemic lung patient following phlebotomy.

    Chetty KG, Brown SE, Light RW

    The present study evaluated the effects of therapeutic phlebotomy on the exercise tolerance
    and the maximal carbon dioxide output of polycythemic patients with chronic obstructive
    pulmonary disease. Fifteen maximal exercise studies were performed before and after phlebotomy
    in patients with moderate to severe chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (mean forced
    expiratory volume in one second [FEV1]= 970 ml). After phlebotomy there were no significant
    differences in pulmonary function, blood gases, oxygen consumption, or carbon dioxide
    production at rest. However, after phlebotomy there was a significant increase in the exercise
    tolerance of the patients. The mean workload, the duration of exercise, the maximal oxygen
    consumption, the maximal carbon dioxide production, and the ventilation at maximal exercise
    all increased significantly. The improved exercise tolerance after phlebotomy appeared due to
    an increased cardiac output generated mainly through an increased stroke volume. We
    hypothesize that the increased stroke volume was due to a higher ejection fraction of the
    right ventricle secondary to a lower pulmonary artery pressure. This study provides further
    evidence that patients with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease who have polycythemia
    benefit by therapeutic interventions that maintain their hematocrits below 55 percent.

    PMID: 6402930, UI: 83149913
    _________________________________________________________________

    Surgery 1980 Nov;88(5):686-92

    Increased oxygen uptake following phlebotomy and simultaneous fluid


    replacement

    Quoted message said:

    in polycythemic patients.

    Shah DM, Powers SR Jr, Bernard HR, Scovill WA, Newell JC, Stratton HH

    To study the isolated effects of decreased hemoglobin concentration without volume loss, eight
    patients with the diagnosis of polycythemia were studied following acute phlebotomy and
    simultaneous volume replacement. These patients had been treated previously by repeated
    phlebotomy, without volume replacement, to a hemoglobin level of 14.8 +/- 0.5 gm%. Following
    hemodilution by additional phlebotomy and volume replacement, which further lowered the mean
    hemoglobin level to
    11.4 +/- 0.4 gm%, cardiac index increased significantly from 2.8 +/- .3 to 3.5 +/- 0. 3
    liter/min/m(2) (P<0.05), oxygen delivery did not change, but total body oxygen consumption
    increased significantly from 140 +/- 16 to 180 +/- 15 ml/min/m(2) (P<0.05). Mixed venous
    PO2, systemic and pulmonary vascular resistance decreased significantly (P<0.05). Vascular
    pressure, heart rate, intrapulmonary shunt, arterial pH and bicarbonate, limb blood flow,
    limb oxygen delivery and limb oxygen consumption did not change. Thus, with phlebotomy and
    fluid replacement, a reduction of hemoglobin concentration to a subnormal level increased
    oxygen consumption without lowering oxygen delivery.

    PMID: 7434209, UI: 81056744
    _________________________________________________________________

    Who loves ya. Tom

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    pages.ivillage.commanisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
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