Egg beater pedals on a recumbent

Discussion in 'UK and Europe' started by Paul, Mar 15, 2004.

  1. Paul

    Paul Guest

    While i'm on the subject of defining my perfect recumbent, I
    was wondering about cleated (clippless?) pedals and in
    particular those funny looking egg beater pedals. Now, on
    the face of it they seem like a good idea, but as you will
    be bigining to gather, my expereince of cycling is a little
    behind the times.

    So, once again, I trun to this forum, for some educated and
    experenced comments.

    TiA
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  2. On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 21:58:14 +0000 (UTC), paul
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > While i'm on the subject of defining my perfect recumbent,
    > I was wondering about cleated (clippless?) pedals and in
    > particular those funny looking egg beater pedals. Now, on
    > the face of it they seem like a good idea, but as you will
    > be bigining to gather, my expereince of cycling is a
    > little behind the times.

    I can't speak of them in the context of recumbents but I
    have been using egg beaters on my tourer for a while and
    although I have yet to put in a serious ride I do like them,
    aesthetics and function! I waited until the had affordable
    ones, the 70 quid bottom of the range jobs rather than the
    super-light titanium ones.

    One thing to bear in mind is that they have just two
    settings, tight and not so tight, and you switch between the
    settings by swapping the cleats between left and right
    shoes, ie not a 10 second adjustment. If you are happy with
    the settings they are very easy to use, you never have to
    flip them round to find a side, and almost maintenance free.

    If you are new to clipless then I would suggest getting some
    cheaper doublesided SPDs or SPD-clones. These can be
    adjusted with an Allen key by tiny amounts if necessary.
    They would probably be a safer introduction to clipless,
    starting off loose and tightening up as you become more
    adept at getting in and out of them. Once you are used to
    them you might then want to go for something else.

    Colin
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  3. Peter Clinch

    Peter Clinch Guest

    paul wrote:

    > So, once again, I trun to this forum, for some educated
    > and experenced comments.

    They seem quite popular in the US, and look great in
    principle... but another principle I used was that having
    two pairs of ATACs already (on the MTB and the (then
    upright) tourer) it made an awful lot of sense to stick with
    ATACs and use the same shoes on all my bikes. How much of a
    weight weenie are you, and do you really foresee needing 4
    sides to clip in from rather than two? If you can find a
    good price on them or you have cash to burn go ahead, but if
    you're already happy with an existing flavour of clipless
    pedal might as well stick with it, I think. I've had no
    problems with Time ATACs which also have cleanliness and
    simplicity going for them, like the Eggbeaters.

    Kinetics do eggbeaters if you really Must Have Them.

    Pete.
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  4. Peter Clinch

    Peter Clinch Guest

    paul wrote:

    > So, once again, I trun to this forum, for some educated
    > and experenced comments.

    PS from my last post, it is a Clear Win having *some* sort
    of clipless pedal on any 'bent where the pedalling
    position is such that you're not really pushing down (so
    something like the HPVel Spirit doesn't really need them,
    but the other HPVels it's a Good Thing). Because
    otherwise you have to hold your feet up to the pedals the
    whole time, rather than just have them fastened in place.

    If you've not used clipless before don't worry: Roos started
    using them while getting used to riding a recumbent at the
    same time. Not only that, but she was using slightly too big
    shoes as well at the time just to make life harder, and she
    never came to grief.

    Pete.
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    Peter Clinch University of Dundee Tel 44 1382 660111 ext.
    33637 Medical Physics, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177
    Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net [email protected]
    http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
     
  5. paul wrote:

    > While i'm on the subject of defining my perfect recumbent,
    > I was wondering about cleated (clippless?) pedals and in
    > particular those funny looking egg beater pedals. Now, on
    > the face of it they seem like a good idea, but as you will
    > be bigining to gather, my expereince of cycling is a
    > little behind the times.

    They seem to be Well Thought Of, but they are what Ex-
    Chairman Dave would call "ferrrrrrrociously expensive".
    FWIW, Look pedals hang at precisely the right angle for
    recumbents.

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  6. On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:21:41 -0000, Dave Larrington <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    > paul wrote:
    >
    >> While i'm on the subject of defining my perfect
    >> recumbent, I was wondering about cleated (clippless?)
    >> pedals and in particular those funny looking egg beater
    >> pedals. Now, on the face of it they seem like a good
    >> idea, but as you will be bigining to gather, my
    >> expereince of cycling is a little behind the times.
    >
    > They seem to be Well Thought Of, but they are what Ex-
    > Chairman Dave would call "ferrrrrrrociously expensive".

    Not any longer. They used to be 300 quid then versions were
    added with less titanium and more steel. The base model is
    now 70 quid RRP which I don't think is ferociously
    expensive.

    Colin
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  7. Whingin' Pom

    Whingin' Pom Guest

    On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:27:01 -0000, "Colin Blackburn"
    <[email protected]> () wrote:

    >On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:21:41 -0000, Dave Larrington
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> paul wrote:
    >>
    >>> While i'm on the subject of defining my perfect
    >>> recumbent, I was wondering about cleated (clippless?)
    >>> pedals and in particular those funny looking egg beater
    >>> pedals. Now, on the face of it they seem like a good
    >>> idea, but as you will be bigining to gather, my
    >>> expereince of cycling is a little behind the times.
    >>
    >> They seem to be Well Thought Of, but they are what Ex-
    >> Chairman Dave would call "ferrrrrrrociously expensive".
    >
    >Not any longer. They used to be 300 quid then versions were
    >added with less titanium and more steel. The base model is
    >now 70 quid RRP which I don't think is ferociously
    >expensive.

    I've seen them for as little as NZ$120 (about £45) But
    that's not much help, really. It's a long way to go for
    them.

    Oh, if anyone is interested in taking advantage of the US
    exchange rate, www.allspares.com sell Leatherman Waves for
    appx US$60. And they ship outside of USAnia. :)

    --
    Matt "Clutching his shiny new juice XE6 in grey" K
    Dunedin, NZ
     
  8. Colin Blackburn wrote:

    > Not any longer. They used to be 300 quid then versions
    > were added with less titanium and more steel. The base
    > model is now 70 quid RRP which I don't think is
    > ferociously expensive.

    It is in comparison with the various Looks I use. My
    Speedmachine and Trice have PP337s, at twenty-seven
    quid a pair.

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    Dave Larrington - http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/
    ===========================================================
    Editor - British Human Power Club Newsletter
    http://www.bhpc.org.uk/
    ===========================================================
     
  9. On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 23:41:06 +1300, Whingin' Pom
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Oh, if anyone is interested in taking advantage of the US
    > exchange rate, www.allspares.com sell Leatherman Waves for
    > appx US$60. And they ship outside of USAnia. :)

    I get a nice empty page giving me an address in Ireland!

    Colin
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  10. Whingin' Pom

    Whingin' Pom Guest

    On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:48:13 -0000, "Colin Blackburn"
    <[email protected]> () wrote:

    >On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 23:41:06 +1300, Whingin' Pom
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> Oh, if anyone is interested in taking advantage of the US
    >> exchange rate, www.allspares.com sell Leatherman Waves
    >> for appx US$60. And they ship outside of USAnia. :)
    >
    >I get a nice empty page giving me an address in Ireland!

    Sorry, misremebered the URL. Try
    http://www.allsparestools.com instead.
    --
    Matt K Dunedin, NZ
     
  11. On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:44:56 -0000, Dave Larrington <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    > Colin Blackburn wrote:
    >
    >> Not any longer. They used to be 300 quid then versions
    >> were added with less titanium and more steel. The base
    >> model is now 70 quid RRP which I don't think is
    >> ferociously expensive.
    >
    > It is in comparison with the various Looks I use. My
    > Speedmachine and Trice have PP337s, at twenty-seven
    > quid a pair.

    Yeah but I was counting the number of rs in ferrrr...

    Colin
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  12. Roos Eisma

    Roos Eisma Guest

    Peter Clinch <[email protected]> writes:

    >If you've not used clipless before don't worry: Roos
    >started using them while getting used to riding a recumbent
    >at the same time. Not only that, but she was using slightly
    >too big shoes as well at the time just to make life harder,
    >and she never came to grief.

    There was a slight panic one time when I hadn't done up the
    oversized sandals tight enough (i.e. toekilling tight) and I
    twisted my foot to release and nothing happened, my foot
    just turned inside the shoe. Discovered that you can release
    them by a less subtle kicking motion as well :)

    Roos
     
  13. Peter Amey

    Peter Amey Guest

    Colin Blackburn wrote:
    > On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 21:58:14 +0000 (UTC), paul
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> While i'm on the subject of defining my perfect
    >> recumbent, I was wondering about cleated (clippless?)
    >> pedals and in particular those funny looking egg beater
    >> pedals. Now, on the face of it they seem like a good
    >> idea, but as you will be bigining to gather, my
    >> expereince of cycling is a little behind the times.

    > [snip]
    >
    > If you are new to clipless then I would suggest getting
    > some cheaper doublesided SPDs or SPD-clones. These can be
    > adjusted with an Allen key by tiny amounts if necessary.
    > They would probably be a safer introduction to clipless,
    > starting off loose and tightening up as you become more
    > adept at getting in and out of them. Once you are used to
    > them you might then want to go for something else.
    >

    I put single-sided, platform SPD pedals on the Dutch
    Speedbike (on the theory that I could ride with ordinary
    shoes if necessary). The unexpected but nice discovery was
    that they are balanced so that they always present the
    cleated side to the recumbent rider at exactly the right
    angle to clip in.

    Peter
     
  14. Dave Kahn

    Dave Kahn Guest

    Roos Eisma <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

    > There was a slight panic one time when I hadn't done up
    > the oversized sandals tight enough (i.e. toekilling tight)
    > and I twisted my foot to release and nothing happened, my
    > foot just turned inside the shoe. Discovered that you can
    > release them by a less subtle kicking motion as well :)

    While intoning the magic incantation: "Oh Fu.... "? :)

    --
    Dave...
     
  15. Danny Colyer

    Danny Colyer Guest

    Peter Clinch wrote:
    > another principle I used was that having two pairs of
    > ATACs already (on the MTB and the (then upright) tourer)
    > it made an awful lot of sense to stick with ATACs and use
    > the same shoes on all my bikes.

    That's the main reason I've never bought a pair. I only
    really use the recumbent now, but even if I only have to buy
    one new pair of pedals I've still got 3 pairs of shoes that
    already have SPD cleats. I don't really want the hassle of
    replacing all the cleats.

    Anyway, I really like having platform one side, SPD on the
    other. Originally the idea was that I could let other people
    try out the bike (which is good), but it's also nice to be
    able to ride occasionally without having to clip in.

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  16. Julian

    Julian Guest

    In message <ef1ji1-
    [email protected]>, Simon Brooke
    <[email protected]> writes
    >
    >Prejudice, OK?
    >
    >Egg-beaters put your foot quite a long way from the pedal
    >spindle, and this doesn't help cycling effort. They are
    >light, and they do have a fair bit of float, which reduces
    >the risk of kneee injury, but they aren't as light or as
    >good for float as Speedplay Frogs.
    >
    >Personally, if I had the money I'd go for Frogs, and if I
    >didn't I'd stick with SPDs.
    >
    I've been wondering about Frogs, are they okay with shoes
    that have proper walking treads? Do you know what shoes they
    are compatible with? I think they're designed for SPD
    fitting? TIA
    --
    Julian
     
  17. Mseries

    Mseries Guest

    paul wrote:
    > While i'm on the subject of defining my perfect recumbent,
    > I was wondering about cleated (clippless?) pedals and in
    > particular those funny looking egg beater pedals. Now, on
    > the face of it they seem like a good idea, but as you will
    > be bigining to gather, my expereince of cycling is a
    > little behind the times.
    >
    > So, once again, I trun to this forum, for some educated
    > and experenced comments.
    >
    > TiA

    I had a conversation about pedals with my mountain biking
    friend the other day. He and his mate are the type that
    break things regularly, perhaps they go for extreme light
    weight at the cost of strength, I don't know. He said two of
    his friends have used Egg Beaters on their mountain bikes
    and on both bikes they, the pedals, fell apart. He suspects
    some design flaw like a thread managing to undo itself due
    to the turning motion. Maybe a gunged up Egg Beater is not a
    good idea.
     
  18. Simon Brooke

    Simon Brooke Guest

    in message <[email protected]>, Julian
    ('[email protected]') wrote:

    > In message <ef1ji1-
    > [email protected]>, Simon Brooke
    > <[email protected]> writes
    >>
    >>Prejudice, OK?
    >>
    >>Egg-beaters put your foot quite a long way from the pedal
    >>spindle, and this doesn't help cycling effort. They are
    >>light, and they do have a fair bit of float, which reduces
    >>the risk of kneee injury, but they aren't as light or as
    >>good for float as Speedplay Frogs.
    >>
    >>Personally, if I had the money I'd go for Frogs, and if I
    >>didn't I'd stick with SPDs.
    >>
    > I've been wondering about Frogs, are they okay with shoes
    > that have proper walking treads? Do you know what shoes
    > they are compatible with? I think they're designed for SPD
    > fitting? TIA

    They're (obviously) not compatible with SPDs, but they are
    compatible with shoes which are compatible with SPDs.

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    the faintest idea how socialists think and does not begin to
    understand the mentality of the party he has been elected to
    lead. He is quite simply a liberal" -- Ken Coates MEP (Lab)
    of Tony Blair
     
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