El cheapo jersey

Discussion in 'Australia and New Zealand' started by Paul_MCMLIX, Oct 25, 2003.

  1. Paul_MCMLIX

    Paul_MCMLIX Guest

    Came across a dandy alternative to expensive cycling jerseys the other
    day. Places that specialise in work clothes have those fluro orange or
    yellow polo shirts that the council and roadwork blokes wear...for about
    a third of the price of a cycling jersey. Also available in larger sizes
    for cyclists who aren't quite within the average range. No pockets in
    the back, but a viable option I thought.



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  2. kingsley

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    On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:10:12 +0950, Paul_MCMLIX wrote:

    > Came across a dandy alternative to expensive cycling jerseys the other
    > day. Places that specialise in work clothes have those fluro orange or
    > yellow polo shirts that the council and roadwork blokes wear...for about
    > a third of the price of a cycling jersey. Also available in larger sizes
    > for cyclists who aren't quite within the average range. No pockets in
    > the back, but a viable option I thought.


    They come in long sleeves too.

    -kt
     
  3. hippy

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    "Paul_MCMLIX" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Came across a dandy alternative to expensive cycling jerseys the other
    > day. Places that specialise in work clothes have those fluro orange or
    > yellow polo shirts that the council and roadwork blokes wear...for about
    > a third of the price of a cycling jersey. Also available in larger sizes
    > for cyclists who aren't quite within the average range. No pockets in
    > the back, but a viable option I thought.


    The only reason I wear a jersey is for the pockets on the back! :)
    That and promoting my LBS.

    Any time I don't require the pockets, i.e. commuting, when
    I carry a backpack, I wear the dreaded "T-SHIRT". Only
    1/10th of the price of an average jersey too ;-)

    Yes, yes I know all about their non-wicking properties and
    how everyone but me seems to think they are evil for riding
    in, but tough! They are cheap and work fine when pockets
    aren't needed. Oh, I wear white ones.. fluoro went out with
    the 80's...

    hippy
    Not a retro-grouch, just a grouch ;-)
     
  4. kingsley

    kingsley Guest

    On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:01:38 +1000, hippy wrote:


    > ... fluoro went out with
    > the 80's...


    So I guess my "Choose Life" t-shirt is out too then ;)
     
  5. Joel Mayes

    Joel Mayes Guest

    In article <[email protected]>, Paul_MCMLIX wrote:
    > Came across a dandy alternative to expensive cycling jerseys the other
    > day. Places that specialise in work clothes have those fluro orange or
    > yellow polo shirts that the council and roadwork blokes wear...for about
    > a third of the price of a cycling jersey. Also available in larger sizes
    > for cyclists who aren't quite within the average range. No pockets in
    > the back, but a viable option I thought.
    >


    If your in Melbourne there is a story on Sydeny road called Episode
    which stocks 2nd hand jerseys I got my three from there from about $15
    each.

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  6. Rob Woozle

    Rob Woozle Guest

    Right up there with the heat sensitive ones that change colour ;-)

    Rob

    >So I guess my "Choose Life" t-shirt is out too then ;)
     
  7. John Doe

    John Doe Guest


    > Yes, yes I know all about their non-wicking properties and
    > how everyone but me seems to think they are evil for riding
    > in, but tough! They are cheap and work fine when pockets
    > aren't needed. Oh, I wear white ones.. fluoro went out with
    > the 80's...
    >


    Same. I don't care what people say about the wicking properties. Most of
    the time I am going to wear a t-shirt. Although I reckon you should not
    worry about style when it comes to visibility. I still wear fluoro. :)

    I reckon if I wore one of those multi coloured clown wigs over my helmet
    then I would be seen by most people. :). Laughing and pointing does not
    bother me. Getting hit does.

    Pete
     
  8. hippy

    hippy Guest

    "John Doe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Same. I don't care what people say about the wicking properties.

    Most of
    > the time I am going to wear a t-shirt. Although I reckon you should

    not
    > worry about style when it comes to visibility. I still wear fluoro.

    :)

    Oh, I look just as daggy in my crusty whites..
    I just don't have any fluoro - It's jealousy on
    my part, pure and simple :)

    Is fluoro really more visible than pure white?
    What about at night or in full daylight - which
    is better?

    hippy
     
  9. John Doe

    John Doe Guest


    > Is fluoro really more visible than pure white?
    > What about at night or in full daylight - which
    > is better?
    >
    > hippy
    >


    Crikey, You going to blow my false sense of security here! :)

    To tell you the truth I don't really know. I would have guessed that fluoro
    was going to be more visible. I mean I notice when someone has a really
    bright shirt but not really white. Thats just subjective though. I am sure
    someone might know a little more.

    Pete
     
  10. hippy wrote:
    >
    > :)
    >
    > Oh, I look just as daggy in my crusty whites..
    > I just don't have any fluoro - It's jealousy on
    > my part, pure and simple :)
    >
    > Is fluoro really more visible than pure white?
    > What about at night or in full daylight - which
    > is better?
    >
    > hippy
    >
    >

    I'm guessing pure white would reflect a greater amount of light, but
    fluoro is an unnatural/uncommon colour that gets peoples attention.
     
  11. boooma

    boooma Guest

    These fluro jobbies from the safety shop are about $25-30,they are also SPF
    50+ and 100% Micromesh Polyester,I believe its the same material stuff as
    the real deal jerseys.

    I have a few left over from my postie days,very light material,have cut the
    arms off one long sleeve to make 'back' pockets for the others.

    Be safe,be seen thats what I say.................


    "kingsley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:10:12 +0950, Paul_MCMLIX wrote:
    >
    > > Came across a dandy alternative to expensive cycling jerseys the other
    > > day. Places that specialise in work clothes have those fluro orange or
    > > yellow polo shirts that the council and roadwork blokes wear...for about
    > > a third of the price of a cycling jersey. Also available in larger sizes
    > > for cyclists who aren't quite within the average range. No pockets in
    > > the back, but a viable option I thought.

    >
    > They come in long sleeves too.
    >
    > -kt



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  12. Arpit

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    fluoro works by converting ultra violet light into visible light
    (fluorescing) its MUCH more visible in twilight and when its cloudy,
    compared to white stuff, because the ratio of uv to visible light is
    much higher then.

    On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 04:31:48 GMT, "hippy"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >"John Doe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >> Same. I don't care what people say about the wicking properties.

    >Most of
    >> the time I am going to wear a t-shirt. Although I reckon you should

    >not
    >> worry about style when it comes to visibility. I still wear fluoro.

    >:)
    >
    >Oh, I look just as daggy in my crusty whites..
    >I just don't have any fluoro - It's jealousy on
    >my part, pure and simple :)
    >
    >Is fluoro really more visible than pure white?
    >What about at night or in full daylight - which
    >is better?
    >
    >hippy
    >
     
  13. Spider1977

    Spider1977 Guest

    Paul_MCMLIX wrote:
    > Came across a dandy alternative to expensive cycling jerseys the other
    > day. Places that specialise in work clothes have those fluro orange or
    > yellow polo shirts that the council and roadwork blokes wear...for about
    > a third of the price of a cycling jersey. Also available in larger sizes
    > for cyclists who aren't quite within the average range. No pockets in
    > the back, but a viable option I thought.




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  14. Rob Woozle

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    Spider1977 <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > Paul_MCMLIX wrote:
    > > Came across a dandy alternative to expensive cycling jerseys the other
    > > day. Places that specialise in work clothes have those fluro orange or
    > > yellow polo shirts that the council and roadwork blokes wear...for about
    > > a third of the price of a cycling jersey. Also available in larger sizes
    > > for cyclists who aren't quite within the average range. No pockets in
    > > the back, but a viable option I thought.

    >
    >
    >
    > I have trouble finding a place to put the shovel


    You are meant to lean on it ;-)

    Rob
     
  15. Graeme

    Graeme Guest

    Arpit <[email protected]> wrote in
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    > luoro works by converting ultra violet light into visible light
    > (fluorescing) its MUCH more visible in twilight and when its cloudy,
    > compared to white stuff, because the ratio of uv to visible light is
    > much higher then.
    >


    It sounds like much of the stuff this thread has mentioned isn't really
    fluoro, but "day-glow" i.e. eye pokingly bright colours. Apparently it is
    incredibly difficult (impossible?) to get true fluoro into the fibres they
    make the cloth from and even if they could the effective life span is
    pretty short.

    Don't take my word for it though, this is from discussions with a friend
    who runs a business making outdoor/industrial clothing including hi-vis
    jackets.

    Cheers,

    Graeme
     
  16. Paul_MCMLIX

    Paul_MCMLIX Guest

    I stand corrected...whatever the stuff is called, I just meant 'really
    bright stick-out-like-dogbally stuff' that decreases the chance of you
    getting skittled by a semi...



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  17. hippy

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    "Paul_MCMLIX" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > I stand corrected...whatever the stuff is called, I just meant 'really
    > bright stick-out-like-dogbally stuff' that decreases the chance of you
    > getting skittled by a semi...


    But insects are attracted to bright things...

    hippy
    ;-)
     
  18. Fred Nieman

    Fred Nieman Guest

    Graeme wrote:
    >
    > Arpit <[email protected]> wrote in
    > news:[email protected]:
    >
    > > luoro works by converting ultra violet light into visible light
    > > (fluorescing) its MUCH more visible in twilight and when its cloudy,
    > > compared to white stuff, because the ratio of uv to visible light is
    > > much higher then.
    > >

    >
    > It sounds like much of the stuff this thread has mentioned isn't really
    > fluoro, but "day-glow" i.e. eye pokingly bright colours. Apparently it is
    > incredibly difficult (impossible?) to get true fluoro into the fibres they
    > make the cloth from and even if they could the effective life span is
    > pretty short.


    Graeme, I respectfully differ on both points you make.

    * As far as I know, "day-glow", aka "dae-glo" (or something similar)
    coloured pigments are the same as what are now called fluoro colours.
    They were called "day-glow" because, as arpit wrote, the pigments picked
    up UV but reflected it in the visible spectrum, hence "glowed" in
    "daylight".
    Bright pigment colour dyed clothes, like my dear old bright red wool
    jumper that has kept me so on-bike warm for so many years (mostly under
    fluoro gear, tho) are very visible compared to more subdued pigment
    colour dyed clothes like your Japara or black Levis, but they are simply
    not as visible as fluoro colours.
    Consider a rainbow tie-dyed t-shirt v your standard fluoro yellow Netti
    shower-resistent zip-up top. The Grateful Dead fan's t-shirt's
    pigment's yellow (whew! s'o man'y a'postrophe's!) would reflect back the
    (less whatever amount that isn't reflected but absorbed, and changed
    from light energy to heat, or (umm.. guessing here) entropy in the form
    of fading or denaturing the pigment and/or fabric in technical formulas
    that we just ain't concerned with here) R:254, G:254, B:0 and similar
    wavelengths of the sunlight that falls on it. The Netti top, however,
    reflects back the R:254, G:254, B:0 spectrum light and similar
    wavelengths, PLUS the UV converted to visible light from similar
    wavelengths.
    What I mean is, a garment dyed with bright yellow pigments is not as
    visible as a garment dyed with bright yellow pigments that also take UV
    light and reflect them yellow wavelength light.

    * I forgot to take my yellow sunnies to lawlib today... now, how the
    feck does that work? How does blocking out a whole lot of the spectrum
    with yellow lenses make things more visible at night or in low light
    conditions? OK, so yellow lenses make things look more sunny (even tho
    fine day daylight peaks on the blue end of the spectrum) on rainy days,
    but at night, too? What is the deal with that?

    Ahem.

    I forgot to take my yellow sunnies to lawlib today, and (as I would
    have, anyway) took the long way back home in growing twilight. As the
    sun set, I noticed that my:
    - 8 years old fluoro yellow socks;
    - 5 years old Netti rain-jacket; and,
    - 11 years old, fabric-wise, and home-made, fluoro thermafleece jacket
    were fluorescing their little hearts, if garments have hearts, out.
    Most of above-mentioned garments are very faded. But they still seemed
    to catch the sunset UV, and do their dayglo thing.
    Moreover, whenever I'm wearing my bike gear and take a / in inner city
    public toilets lit with UV lights (so that... well, y'all know why there
    lit like that), my ancient kit nevertheless lights up like a Christmas
    Tree.

    >
    > "Paul_MCMLIX" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > I stand corrected...whatever the stuff is called, I just meant 'really
    > > bright stick-out-like-dogbally stuff' that decreases the chance of you
    > > getting skittled by a semi...


    I think that
    >
    > But insects are attracted to bright things...
    >
    > hippy
    > ;-)


    And to hippy:
    Yeep!
    Do you have scary moments when you walk your bike out the door to ride
    to work, and all the bees in the front garden decide that you are far
    more interesting than the petals they bin bzzzing at?
    Apparently, many flowers have UV-light-only pigmentation, because bees'
    vision is in a shifted spectrum to us vertebrates. Or something.

    xxx (to a.b all)

    p
     
  19. eug k

    eug k Guest

    Fred Nieman <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Graeme wrote:


    [chopped entertaining read]

    > Moreover, whenever I'm wearing my bike gear and take a / in inner city
    > public toilets lit with UV lights (so that... well, y'all know why there
    > lit like that), my ancient kit nevertheless lights up like a Christmas
    > Tree.


    actually, why are some public toilets lit like that? I've heard that it's
    so that it's harder to shoot up, but is it really?


    >
    >>
    >> "Paul_MCMLIX" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]
    >> > I stand corrected...whatever the stuff is called, I just meant 'really
    >> > bright stick-out-like-dogbally stuff' that decreases the chance of you
    >> > getting skittled by a semi...

    >
    > I think that
    >>
    >> But insects are attracted to bright things...
    >>
    >> hippy
    >> ;-)

    >
    > And to hippy:
    > Yeep!
    > Do you have scary moments when you walk your bike out the door to ride
    > to work, and all the bees in the front garden decide that you are far
    > more interesting than the petals they bin bzzzing at?
    > Apparently, many flowers have UV-light-only pigmentation, because bees'
    > vision is in a shifted spectrum to us vertebrates. Or something.
    >
    > xxx (to a.b all)
    >
    > p


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  20. Fred Nieman

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    eug k wrote:
    >
    > Fred Nieman <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > Graeme wrote:

    >
    > [chopped entertaining read]


    Thanks from both of us (probably]!
    >
    > > Moreover, whenever I'm wearing my bike gear and take a / in inner city
    > > public toilets lit with UV lights (so that... well, y'all know why there
    > > lit like that), my ancient kit nevertheless lights up like a Christmas
    > > Tree.

    >
    > actually, why are some public toilets lit like that? I've heard that it's
    > so that it's harder to shoot up, but is it really?


    Yep, 's why, AFAIK. It think it got a wee flurry in the media (oops -
    no pun intended) a while ago. Just means you have to draw where to hit
    up in biro before you go in - tho I notice some of the UV tubes at in
    the loo on the west of Flinders St have been replaced with conventional
    ones. (I'll bet that it was a nice idea at the time, but now it's too
    expensive top replace them.)
    Either that or it's designed to validate us "be loud, be proud" types.
    >
    > >

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