Empty calories

benkoostra said:

No, you would seek to create the illusion that you CONTROL THIS. You do not.

It is very hard to escape their poisons. The GM contamination, DU, aerosolized chemicals and pathogens regularly distributed from high altitude aircraft, industrial airborne toxins, etc., are almost impossible to avoid. But we can minimize their effect and maximize our chances of avoiding the diseases and ill effects of common everyday toxins by making a few simple lifestyle / dietary changes.

Perhaps if the subconscious truly believes something through opting for healthy choices and rejecting where possible the poisons then the resulting belief will conquer all else thus, in effect, seizing control of our destiny.

However, delusion is no protection. Neglecting one's health and lying to oneself about the consequences of the partaking in harmful activities will not prevent the inevitable dire consequences, for most people anyway.

Wow the thread title is a good analogy to the content of this thread after about the 4th post... Ratio let me restate what some other posters have tried to state: your message gets lost behind the militant extremist attitude, much like the psycho religious zealots that turn off many folks that would otherwise be interested in the foundation behind their message... i found the link you provided very interesting, then lost all interest and deemed you a wacko as I kept reading the thread. Tone it down and you may actually get people to listen.

I often lament the fact that most people are preprogrammed into pigeonholing and categorizing everybody they meet / hear of.

It is a shame how the innate prejudice of people and their preconceived notions prevent them from learning certain things from certain parties. It is a pretty poor show where one is unable to see through a façade, however such a façade is perceived, and embrace the substance of the lesson at hand.

I make a conscious effort not to judge a person by how they look, how they dress, how they speak, how they sound, because to do so would threaten my edification; to ignore people because of a conflict with my belief system could prevent me from learning where I am wrong. Through discrimination I could forever behold fallacy as being truth just because I did not like the messenger. I know most people are biobots, nothing more than automatons, and incapable of original thought. I know that to educate people they should be treated in the same way a dog trainer treats his dogs. This is an unfortunate reality with most people. Any marketer worth his salt will confirm what I write.

I hope you can see how foolish this situation is. I certainly can.

Ratiocinator said:

I often lament the fact that most people are preprogrammed into pigeonholing and categorizing everybody they meet / hear of.

It is a shame how the innate prejudice of people and their preconceived notions prevent them from learning certain things from certain parties. It is a pretty poor show where one is unable to see through a façade, however such a façade is perceived, and embrace the substance of the lesson at hand.

I make a conscious effort not to judge a person by how they look, how they dress, how they speak, how they sound, because to do so would threaten my edification; to ignore people because of a conflict with my belief system could prevent me from learning where I am wrong. Through discrimination I could forever behold fallacy as being truth just because I did not like the messenger. I know most people are biobots, nothing more than automatons, and incapable of original thought. I know that to educate people they should be treated in the same way a dog trainer treats his dogs. This is an unfortunate reality with most people. Any marketer worth his salt will confirm what I write.

I hope you can see how foolish this situation is. I certainly can.

In spite of a low social intelligence... clearly you are passionate about this; but please explain all the contradictions on the link you posted... I thought there was merit to this until I read it, and discovered it was a hodgepodge of lists and charts that place many foods on contradictory sides of the PH scale. Was it put together by a biobot?

wilmar13 said:

please explain all the contradictions on the link you posted... I thought there was merit to this until I read it, and discovered it was a hodgepodge of lists and charts that place many foods on contradictory sides of the PH scale. Was it put together by a biobot?

Well it would have been helpful if you had included the link in your post. But never mind, I think I know the one you mean, without looking back through the thread and if memory serves me correctly.

Yes, there are a few contradictions on that food ph page. Also, if you look at other ph food sites you will see that very few seem to agree on certain foods. But they all agree on some foods, with others one must use one's discernment to judge how to proceed.

It is rarely wise to dedicate ones life to the values promoted by a lone website. One must study this subject and attempt to identify credible sources of information and credible individuals in the appropriate fields. It is an important subject so looking into it is a valid expenditure of time and effort. Naturally the criminals who run the world do not want people to be informed so they will, and do, publish false and contradictory information to confuse people and to discredit genuine, valuable sources of highly accurate information. This is basic textbook stuff on their part; simple but effective, especially considering the laziness of most people and the ease at which they give up.

[font=&quot]There are certain individuals that are highly respected and their teachings established and well proven. One such eminent figure is Professor Arnold Ehret. Google for his mucusless diet. He has a book, inexpensive on Amazon, that I intend to purchase very shortly. From what I have heard of it I recommend it.[/font]

Mmmm, that jelly doughnut was yummy.

My pick would be beer, I brew my own so I'm not really worried about the great corporate satan trying to kill me with poisons.

mmmmmmm.... beeeeeer....

Shortbus901 said:

so I'm not really worried about the great corporate satan trying to kill me with poisons.

Because you are doing a good enough job of poisoning yourself, albeit with, perhaps, slightly less potent toxins that take longer to kick in?

Shortbus901 said:

mmmmmmm.... beeeeeer....

Does watching television make you think and write such things?

Rationdork,

Do you live in a cave? Take the advice I gave you days ago, you will then be at peace and happy. Why go on punishing yourself with a slow miserable death?

[font=&quot]Slow miserable deaths are the reserve of those foolish enough not to care about what they eat. Imprudent fools have slow, painful, lingering deaths. Intelligent people, who eat and live in healthy ways, not as the mainstream does, live long healthy lives (gas explosions, train crashes, etc., aside) and have short, less painful deaths.[/font]

[font=Arial Narrow]I thought milk was healthy until now. I thought it contains lots of important things like calcium etc. and lots of proteins to build up muscles.... but never heard that it´s unhealthy or toxic. Can somebody whos not fanatic and has some knowledge tell me wheter milk is good or bad. Is Soja Milk better? [/font]

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Milk certainly is unhealthy and dangerous, and it is actually not good for the bones. It actually promotes osteoporosis, but I will let you read for yourself at the sites linked to above.

There are lots of milk substitutes. Just go to a suitable shop (maybe a healthfood store) and ask to see them. I bought quinoa milk and almond milk the other day. There is also hemp milk, oat milk, rice milk, and many others to choose from. If one sucks try another.

There is a lot of discussion on the effects soy has on health. Some say it is very good for health, and it certainly is a complete protein source and anti-carcinogenic, but others say there are some disadvantages to consuming it. It is certainly much healthier than animal milk. That is for sure.

The best thing to do is become self-sufficient, or semi self-sufficient. Learn how to make plant milk using nuts, rice, seeds, etc. It is not complicated; it basically involves soaking the nuts, seeds, etc., filtering them and mixing with water. There are machines available for making plant milks at home. Google 'soymilk maker; or 'hemp milk maker' (they are usually good for making milk from many nuts, seeds, etc.). These devices cost around 50 or 60 pounds, but you will save money in the long run. Also, if you are making your own plant milks you can buy seeds and nuts by the sack full and store them for perhaps over a year. This is a good survival precaution. Milk from cows and animals does not store well at all, even in powder form.

mmmm milk ... yum 🙂

If i were you, id worry more about the other junk food than milk.
You can live fairly healthy and drink milk, however i see people who live on McDs and KFC who are just killing themselves.

Sure milk may not be the best for you, but its not whats killing generations of people by obesity 🙂

wishes said:

mmmm milk ... yum 🙂

Is it the pus, the urine, or the cancer-promoting IGF-1 tat you find so tasty?

wishes said:

If i were you, id worry more about the other junk food than milk.
You can live fairly healthy and drink milk, however i see people who live on McDs and KFC who are just killing themselves.

Milk is a junk food under the false guise of a healthfood (a lie perpetrate and pushed by the dairy board).

All the things you mentioned are bad. Why give up one toxic product just to consume another? That makes no sense.

It also makes no sense to consume a vile, unhealthy product, such as milk, in a world where healthy alternatives are readily available and of which there is an excellent choice.

wishes said:

Sure milk may not be the best for you, but its not whats killing generations of people by obesity 🙂

Milk very definitely does promote obesity. And remember, it is not just liquid milk, but cheese, butter, and so on – all of which are available as dairy-free alternatives that taste just like the animal-derived variety. Even flavoured milkshakes are available. Dairy-free milkshakes taste identical, if not better, than the pus-ridden, fiber-less, saturated fat and cholesterol filled carcinogenic filth that is dairy.

When you see ice cream, think pus-cream. When you see dairy milkshakes, think pus-shakes. Animal milk is pus, hormones and glue:

Milk contains plenty of calories, growth hormones, fat, and

cholesterol. The most powerful growth hormone in the human

body is identical to the most powerful growth hormone in a

cow's body. That hormone instructs every cell in the human

body to grow.



Children are becoming overweight at an early age. By eating

growth hormones in combination with animal fat, the body has

a way of listening to the signals of those chemical messengers: GROW!

If you think America has an obesity epidemic now, observewhat will happen to our kids in years to come.Let's imagine that kids change just one thing in theirdiets, replacing regular milk consumption with chocolatemilk.The dairy industry wants kids to drink 3-5 8-ounce glassesof milk each day. Let's analyze an average quart of milkand compare it to an average quart of chocolate milk, shallwe?One quart of whole MILK = 600 calories and 32.6 grams offat. One quart of chocolate MILK = 834 calories and 33.9grams of fat.If the average kid substitutes chocolate milk for regularmilk, he or she will consume 234 calories more each day and1.3 grams more of fat. Since there are 365 days in oneyear, that child will eat 475 more grams of fat which addsup to one pound more of pure fat! Multiply that timestwelve years (first grade through high school). Caloriesare even more revealing: 234x365=85,410 more calories peryear. Since 3500 calories are converted to one pound of fatin the human body, that child should gain 24 pounds.If the child drinks reduced fat chocolate milk, he or shewill drink a quart containing just 715 calories. That addsup to a weight gain of 12 pounds.If that same child drinks low fat chocolate milk, he or shewill drink a quart containing 630 calories. In this case,he or she will gain just three pounds. Imagine kids askingfor diet chocolate milk.More than 28,000 stores have signed up for the 2001chocolate milk promotion which shall begin soon.Schools are also participating in the program with an NBAsponsored "Slam Dunk Drink" school food service promotionwhich should reach more than 8.5 million students in 15,000schools nationwide. The effort features posters, banners,and student giveaways.

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"The most popular definition for fat is a 'greasy or oily substance.' Milk fat and the associated lipid material are present in milk...about 1500 billion or more may be found in a pint of milk. The fats of plant origin in the cow's diet contain large amounts of polyunsaturated fatty acids. These fats are hydrolyzed in the cow's rumen. The liberated fatty acids are then converted into saturated fatty acids."

Lincoln Lampert, "Modern Dairy Products," Third Edition

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Obesity Epidmic

United States of ButterballurniaImagine taking five sticks of butter and molding them into asoftball-sized sphere of greasy animal fat. If you are theaverage dairy eater living in America in 2003, you will betaking into your body this additional saturated massweighing 1.7 pounds, which is that much more than what theaverage individual of 1969 ingested during each twelve-monthperiod.Butterball (Latin): That which coagulates in the female buttor thigh. (Male equivalent goes directly to the stomach.)Butterballurnia: That nation which is experiencing anunprecedented obesity epidemic. (See: Journal of theAmerican Medical Association 2003;289:187-193, 229-230;Annals of Internal Medicine 2003;138;24-32.)While the consumption of whole milk decreases, Americanscontinue to eat increased amounts of concentrated dairyproducts containing enormous amounts of saturated animalfat.During 1969, the average American drank 229 pounds of wholemilk. By 1999, the average American was drinking just 69pounds of whole milk per year. Whole milk contains 2.079grams of saturated animal fat per 100 gram portion.So, we drink much less milk. What is the problem, then?We've replaced liquid milk consumption with enormous amountsof concentrated dairy products. That's what. In addition toingesting increased amounts of hormones, we grow more obesewith each portion of cheese.In 1969, the average American ate ten pounds of cheese. By1999, the average American was eating thirty pounds ofcheese per year. (Ten pounds of milk are required to makeone pound of hard cheese.) Wisconsin's cheddar cheesecontains 21.09 grams of saturated animal fat per 100 gramportion.In 1969, the average American slurped 18 pounds of icecream. In 1999, the average American ate 30 pounds of icecream. (Twelve pounds of milk are required to make one poundof ice cream.) Vanilla ice cream contains 6.79 grams ofsaturated animal fat per 100 gram portion.Total Saturated Fat Content Consumption Per American FromMilk, Cheese, Ice Cream:1969 = 8.1 pounds1999 = 9.8 poundsCONCLUSIONA 1.7 pound glob of saturated fat multiplied by ten years ofa child's life is equal to 17 pounds. By the time a child ofthe 21st century turns 30, he or she will have eaten 51pounds more saturated fat than a child of the 60s.Got liposuction? Got obesity epidemics?Got heart disease and strokes?

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What a paranoid extremest [censored] Rationdork is.

Rationdork........... go KILL YOURSELF

zaskar said:

What a paranoid extremest [censored] Rationdork is.

Wow. The irony.

Ratiocinator said:

Wow. The irony.

Wanna use my 38?

Would'nt this be good time to calm down with a good nonempty calorie burning ride🙂

Ratio. Could I have an example of your daily diet. Please let me reassure you it's not stir the pot, or to reem you with. Im just very curious. I myself struggle with food choices everyday.

zaskar said:

Wanna use my 38?

I find it interesting how you abuse me, encourage me to commit suicide, and in general post a lot of vileness and hatred, yet you accuse me of being the extremist!

Did I touch upon a nerve? I can’t understand why. After all, all I am guilty of is being able to think for myself and outside of the mainstream box, see dangers for what they are, think about and study things, and refuse to accept without question the ways forced upon me (us all) since my birth that we are all expected to live by.

Why you get so upset is beyond me! Maybe you hold shares in Ben & Jerry’s? Maybe I am introducing you to a few truths that might just force you to think about things? Does that make you uncomfortable, having to actually think about the consequences of your actions and why you do what it is you do?

Is it the way of the extremist to take measures to prevent suffering and to end cruelty? Or is the extremists way one of pushing disease and suffering and forcing death upon 48-billion non-humans each year whilst ensuring the future illness of countless millions of humans too? The answer is simple; it does not require much thought. However, cognitive dissonance could get in the way. After all, the domicile of the mentally impuissant, the sealed cocoon with its delusive milieu and opacified periphery, surely is a comfortable place in which to dwell!

Maybe this is just a simple case of herd mentality? You cannot help, as a zombie and a sheep, but blindly follow what the majority of people do. Well, that is how humans tend to behave, just ask any half decent psychologist. So the minority, me in this case, are immediately, and without just cause, attacked and demonized as an automatic response.

I find it rather irritating that the multitude act in such a way. Baaa. Baaa.

I wonder if what I just wrote will prompt an ego response in you? Maybe you will be prompted to reply with an ill judged post attacking me because you have been primordially preprogrammed to assert that yours is the larger penis?

For all the good it will do, I recommend rising above such innate programming. I advocate intellectual analysis over automatic control via cerebro-chemistry. Try to override the innate primordial urges for more rational and considered actions. That is my advice.