Energy Drinks: How Heavy?!?



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Sorni

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OK, I know I could go to a post office or something and actually weigh
stuff, but where's the fun in that?

On a recent ride I jokingly referred to my (all-carbon) bike as a boat
anchor, and my friend lifted it up and said something like, "Wow, it IS
heavy".

So then I pulled off my full water bottle and he did the same with his, and
I was shocked -- OK, quite surprised -- at how much heavier mine was than
his.

The only apparent difference (besides bottle brands) was that mine was
filled with my proprietary Gatorade/Lemonade/Tang concoction, whereas his
was just plain water. (Both bottles were the larger size -- his a clear
Bontrager and mine a seemingly bit thicker plastic "team"-type bottle.)

So my question is, how much heavier is a water bottle filled with energy
drink than with plain H2O?

I'm going for a ride in a bit. Please have your answers on my desk(top) by
this afternoon...and of course, show your work.

Just don't go to the post office for help.

Bill S.
 
Which nerd's turn is it to get out their calculator?

Why don't you measure the dry ingredients that you mix in the water
itself. That's the difference between H2O and a sports drink of the
same volume.

Use your noggin.

Randolf
 
[email protected] wrote:
> Which nerd's turn is it to get out their calculator?
>
> Why don't you measure the dry ingredients that you mix in the water
> itself. That's the difference between H2O and a sports drink of the
> same volume.
>
> Use your noggin.


Ah, but with displacement along with...dissolvement (?) (OK, absorption),
it's not quite that simple.

Like I said, I could go to the P.O. and actually weigh two bottles, but
mental masturbation (noggin noogie) is more fun.

(I also suspect that protein-type powders are heavier than electrolyte
types. They sure make me nauseous faster.)
 
Sorni wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > Which nerd's turn is it to get out their calculator?
> >
> > Why don't you measure the dry ingredients that you mix in the water
> > itself. That's the difference between H2O and a sports drink of the
> > same volume.
> >
> > Use your noggin.

>
> Ah, but with displacement along with...dissolvement (?) (OK, absorption),
> it's not quite that simple.
>


Actually, it IS quite that simple. The difference in a bottle filled
with plain water and a bottle with energy powder disolved in it is
going to be the weight of the powder in the scoop you threw in there.

Are you saying you think you somehow created or destroyed mass while
mixing up your drink? Hey! You may have discovered cold fusion!
 
Tom_A wrote:
> Sorni wrote:
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> Which nerd's turn is it to get out their calculator?
>>>
>>> Why don't you measure the dry ingredients that you mix in the water
>>> itself. That's the difference between H2O and a sports drink of the
>>> same volume.
>>>
>>> Use your noggin.

>>
>> Ah, but with displacement along with...dissolvement (?) (OK,
>> absorption), it's not quite that simple.
>>

>
> Actually, it IS quite that simple. The difference in a bottle filled
> with plain water and a bottle with energy powder disolved in it is
> going to be the weight of the powder in the scoop you threw in there.
>
> Are you saying you think you somehow created or destroyed mass while
> mixing up your drink? Hey! You may have discovered cold fusion!


Forgetting that you can get more water in a bottle without powder than with
it...

Eliminate powder then. How much heavier is a 16-ounce bottle of Gatorade
than the same bottle filled with water?

Is it really drastic enough to be obvious? (Like, hold one bottle in each
hand and easily tell which is which?)

SkeptiBill
 
Sorni wrote:
> OK, I know I could go to a post office or something and actually weigh
> stuff, but where's the fun in that?
>
> On a recent ride I jokingly referred to my (all-carbon) bike as a boat
> anchor, and my friend lifted it up and said something like, "Wow, it IS
> heavy".
>
> So then I pulled off my full water bottle and he did the same with his, and
> I was shocked -- OK, quite surprised -- at how much heavier mine was than
> his.
>
> The only apparent difference (besides bottle brands) was that mine was
> filled with my proprietary Gatorade/Lemonade/Tang concoction, whereas his
> was just plain water. (Both bottles were the larger size -- his a clear
> Bontrager and mine a seemingly bit thicker plastic "team"-type bottle.)
>
> So my question is, how much heavier is a water bottle filled with energy
> drink than with plain H2O?
>
> I'm going for a ride in a bit. Please have your answers on my desk(top) by
> this afternoon...and of course, show your work.
>
> Just don't go to the post office for help.
>
> Bill S.
>
>

Tempest in a teapot.The weight difference will be so small as to be
nearly immeasurable, assuming both bottles are filled to the same capacity.

EJ in NJ
 
Ernie Willson wrote:
> Sorni wrote:
>> OK, I know I could go to a post office or something and actually
>> weigh stuff, but where's the fun in that?
>>
>> On a recent ride I jokingly referred to my (all-carbon) bike as a
>> boat anchor, and my friend lifted it up and said something like,
>> "Wow, it IS heavy".
>>
>> So then I pulled off my full water bottle and he did the same with
>> his, and I was shocked -- OK, quite surprised -- at how much heavier
>> mine was than his.
>>
>> The only apparent difference (besides bottle brands) was that mine
>> was filled with my proprietary Gatorade/Lemonade/Tang concoction,
>> whereas his was just plain water. (Both bottles were the larger
>> size -- his a clear Bontrager and mine a seemingly bit thicker
>> plastic "team"-type bottle.) So my question is, how much heavier is a
>> water bottle filled with
>> energy drink than with plain H2O?
>>
>> I'm going for a ride in a bit. Please have your answers on my
>> desk(top) by this afternoon...and of course, show your work.
>>
>> Just don't go to the post office for help.
>>
>> Bill S.
>>
>>

> Tempest in a teapot.The weight difference will be so small as to be
> nearly immeasurable, assuming both bottles are filled to the same
> capacity.


That's what I would think, too. So what explains the /really obvious/
difference in the two bottles' weights? Maybe the actual TYPE of water
bottle?

No wonder I'm so slow! I'm dragging around LEAD-BASED WATER BOTTLE DEAD
WEIGHTS on my bike!!!

I feel a little better now :)
 
Sorni wrote:
> Ernie Willson wrote:


> > Tempest in a teapot.The weight difference will be so small as to be
> > nearly immeasurable, assuming both bottles are filled to the same
> > capacity.

>
> That's what I would think, too. So what explains the /really obvious/
> difference in the two bottles' weights? Maybe the actual TYPE of water
> bottle?
>
> No wonder I'm so slow! I'm dragging around LEAD-BASED WATER BOTTLE DEAD
> WEIGHTS on my bike!!!
>
> I feel a little better now :)


It's the well known ability of cyclists with money to burn to
tell the difference between immeasurably small weight
differences. Even Joe Average cyclist can tell a 20 gram
difference between two rear derailleurs by picking up
the fully built bike before and after the ders are switched.
For a dedicated bike geek, with the bottles off the bike
and in hand, milligram differences are so obvious they
are almost painful.

Or maybe the bottles were actually different sizes, or
filled to different levels.
 
if the amount of unmixed dihydrogen oxide in each bottle is the same,
then take the weight of the suggested amount of energy powder and
subtract from this the difference in the weight between his thinner
clear and your thicker opaque bottle and you'll have your answer.

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If you've been drinking from a lead based water bottle then it's no
wonder you can't figure this out. :-3)

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Chris Z The Wheelman wrote:
> if the amount of unmixed dihydrogen oxide in each bottle is the same,
> then take the weight of the suggested amount of energy powder and
> subtract from this the difference in the weight between his thinner
> clear and your thicker opaque bottle and you'll have your answer.


Sigh. Guess it's the Post Office! LOL