Everybody uses carbon...let's use....

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[email protected] wrote:

> Surely some of our Dutch posters should know if wooden shoes are
> hotter or colder than normal shoes.


Much reduced heattransfer to a cold floor
Fit any cleat with ordinary woodscrews
Meets regulations for safety footwear in the workplace
;)


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/Marten

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On 2007-10-08, Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
>> wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiff

>
> There were a number of wood-soled shoes in the mid-70s, including... darn.
> Having a brain malfunction and can't remember the name of the shoes I wore
> back then. But they were wood-soled and not Duegis.


I think Maresi made a wood sole shoe. Perhaps Detto Pietro as well.

I still regularly use (as in "several times a week") my 30 year old
Rivat shoes, but they have a plastic sole.

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John ([email protected])
 
On 2007-10-08, Bruce Gilbert <[email protected]> wrote:

> We used to use Detto Pietro shoes in the sixties in New York. We had to nail
> the aluminum cleats in place. Anyone remember them as well??


The Dettos or the cleats? I still have a set of nail-on TA cleats and a
couple sets of Paravin plastic cleats. When my old Rivats die, I have a
set of Zeus shoes ready to replace them. :)

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John ([email protected])
 
Mike wrote:
>> Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
>> wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiff

>
> There were a number of wood-soled shoes in the mid-70s, including... darn.
> Having a brain malfunction and can't remember the name of the shoes I wore
> back then. But they were wood-soled and not Duegis.


Detto?


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David L. Johnson

Arguing with an engineer is like mud wrestling with a pig...
You soon find out the pig likes it!
 
Bruce Gilbert wrote:

> We used to use Detto Pietro shoes in the sixties in New York. We had to nail
> the aluminum cleats in place. Anyone remember them as well??


Absolutely.

--

David L. Johnson

Arguing with an engineer is like mud wrestling with a pig...
You soon find out the pig likes it!
 
Jay Beattie wrote:

> Also, I don't think that the Detto's had wood soles. I think they
> were straight leather. I had some straight leather soles -- I think
> Dettos -- which were like old baseball shoes. I also had a pair of
> Italias that had steel stiffeners.


I was trying to remember about that. I don't remember the Detto's
having wooden soles. But I think they were very stiff, so maybe they
had a steel shank or something in them.

--

David L. Johnson

Arguing with an engineer is like mud wrestling with a pig...
You soon find out the pig likes it!
 
On Oct 9, 3:04 am, "David L. Johnson" <[email protected]>
But I think they were very stiff, so maybe they
> had a steel shank or something in them.


Absolutely, yes!
As far as I know, all well made shoes have that steel shank in place
for adequate stiffness. My shoes have it, too.
I think Andrew Muzi could tell us something about Maresi shoes; he
should have some in stock.

Cleats? I still use them and have some ready as replacements, all to
be nailed into the soles. The very worst I recall were an Anquetil
marked model: beautiful to look at, in steel and slippery ... .

Cheers

Sergio
Pisa
 
On Oct 8, 9:33 am, "Mike" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
> > wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiff

>
> There were a number of wood-soled shoes in the mid-70s, including... darn.
> Having a brain malfunction and can't remember the name of the shoes I wore
> back then. But they were wood-soled and not Duegis.
>
> --Mike--
> Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReaction.com"Gary Jacobson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>

Have a pair of wood soled Duegis..sitting in the shop window along
with the SuperRecord DeRosa..not very comfy but cool looking!!
>
>
>
> > "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com" <[email protected]> wrote in
> > messagenews:[email protected]...
> >> WOOD

>
> >>http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/interbike07/index.p...

>
> > Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
> > wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiff

>
> > Gary Jacobson
> > Rosendale, NY
 
On Oct 8, 8:37 am, "Gary Jacobson" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com" <[email protected]> wrote in
> messagenews:[email protected]...
>
> > WOOD

>
> >http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/interbike07/index.p...

>
> Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
> wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiff
>
> Gary Jacobson
> Rosendale, NY


I bought and returned a pair of the wood soled leather Duegi shoes
from Bike Warehouse back in the mid 1980s. Too narrow. Bought a pair
of the new Duegi shoes from Bike Warehouse instead. Plastic soles
with bolt on cleats. The plastic sole shoes had the three hole Look
pattern in them. Don't recall if the wood soled shoes had bolt on or
nail on cleats. There were two or three versions of the new Duegi
shoes, each with a different tightening method. Laces, the ones I
got. Two velcro straps. And some reason I think another model too.
Nashbar had a couple models of these mid 1980s Duegi shoes on their
website sometime in the last year or two. NOS find from somewhere. I
still have my mid 1980s leather Duegi shoes. I know they have the
three hole Look pattern in the plastic soles because I put a Time
Equipe adaptor plate onto them to use the Time Equipe cleats in 1992.
I am now using the three hole SPD-SL cleats so I could use these shoes
today. But I bought them a bit too small and they never did stretch.
I learned its best to get properly fitting cycling shoes.
 
On Oct 8, 8:37 am, "Gary Jacobson" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com" <[email protected]> wrote in
> messagenews:[email protected]...
>
> > WOOD

>
> >http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/interbike07/index.p...

>
> Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
> wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiff
>
> Gary Jacobson
> Rosendale, NY


I bought and returned a pair of the wood soled leather Duegi shoes
from Bike Warehouse back in the mid 1980s. Too narrow. Bought a pair
of the new Duegi shoes from Bike Warehouse instead. Plastic soles
with bolt on cleats. The plastic sole shoes had the three hole Look
pattern in them. Don't recall if the wood soled shoes had bolt on or
nail on cleats. There were two or three versions of the new Duegi
shoes, each with a different tightening method. Laces, the ones I
got. Two velcro straps. And some reason I think another model too.
Nashbar had a couple models of these mid 1980s Duegi shoes on their
website sometime in the last year or two. NOS find from somewhere. I
still have my mid 1980s leather Duegi shoes. I know they have the
three hole Look pattern in the plastic soles because I put a Time
Equipe adaptor plate onto them to use the Time Equipe cleats in 1992.
I am now using the three hole SPD-SL cleats so I could use these shoes
today. But I bought them a bit too small and they never did stretch.
I learned its best to get properly fitting cycling shoes.
 
On Oct 8, 8:33 am, "Mike" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
> > wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiff

>
> There were a number of wood-soled shoes in the mid-70s, including... darn.
> Having a brain malfunction and can't remember the name of the shoes I wore
> back then. But they were wood-soled and not Duegis.
>
> --Mike--
> Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReaction.com"Gary Jacobson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
> > "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com" <[email protected]> wrote in
> > messagenews:[email protected]...
> >> WOOD

>
> >>http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/tech/shows/interbike07/index.p...

>
> > Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a full
> > wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiff

>
> > Gary Jacobson
> > Rosendale, NY


I have a pair of wood-soled Vittorias. Also some Duegis, prefer the
Vittorias for comfort.
 
"Bruce Gilbert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Mike" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > > Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a

full
> > > wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiff

> >
> > There were a number of wood-soled shoes in the mid-70s, including...

darn.
> > Having a brain malfunction and can't remember the name of the shoes I

wore
> > back then. But they were wood-soled and not Duegis.
> >
> > --Mike--
> > Chain Reaction Bicycles
> > www.ChainReaction.com
> > "Gary Jacobson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > > "Qui si parla Campagnolo-www.vecchios.com" <[email protected]>

wrote in
> > > message news:[email protected]...
> > >> WOOD
> > >>
> > >>

>

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2...erbike07/interbike0710/Northwave_wood_midsole
> > >
> > > Was it Duegi that made a very narrow soft upper leather shoe with a

full
> > > wood sole in the early 80's? That was stiff
> > >
> > > Gary Jacobson
> > > Rosendale, NY
> > >

> >

>
> We used to use Detto Pietro shoes in the sixties in New York. We had to

nail
> the aluminum cleats in place. Anyone remember them as well??
>
> Bruce
>
>


I could never find Dettos wide enough to fit my feet.

I have a pair of Adidas Eddy Merckx shoes that I bought about 1974. They
have a leather sole about 1/4" and a 1/4" thick insole made of some kind
of composite material. There was not enough material to nail cleats on so
I tried short wood screws which pulled out. I switched to aluminum pop
rivets which also broke then I found some steel aircraft pop rivets that
worked great except when it came time to replace cleats.

I still ride with the Adidas shoes on occasional retro rides. I had to
have them re-glued several times but I guess that they were worth the
$75-$100 I paid for them.

I also have an almost new pair of Ditta Pinto shoes that were knockoff
Detto Pietros sold by Mel Pinto in the 1970s. They came in extra wide
widths. They have Cinelli plastic track cleats that I need to take off so
that I can start wearing them again.

Chas.
 
* * Chas wrote:

> I have a pair of Adidas Eddy Merckx shoes that I bought about 1974. They
> have a leather sole about 1/4" and a 1/4" thick insole made of some kind
> of composite material.


ordinary nylon istr. It didn't go soft in the rain.

There was not enough material to nail cleats on so
> I tried short wood screws which pulled out. I switched to aluminum pop
> rivets


same here ;)

--
/Marten

info(apestaartje)m-gineering(punt)nl
 
On 17 Ott, 22:06, "* * Chas" <[email protected]> wrote:
> There was not enough material to nail cleats on so


You'll envy me, now.
Last year I found myself with a cleat that had almost separated from
below, the heads of the nails being worn out.
I was some 40 kms from home.
With a couple of screws, and the help of a screwdriver, I got
everything back into place.

Sergio
Pisa