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Everyone's a Dope according to BL

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  1. Manzano, Guamont and Lobato have all been doing pro cycling
    a load of good. And that ain't sarcasm.

    And yes, having Riis talk about doping as if he wasn't
    involved is pretty funny. Of course all we have to go on as
    far as Bjarne is concerned is rumors of rumors. That ought
    to be more than enough for Lafferty. After all, as a lawyer
    he knows the impact of his statements.

    The problem is that the clean riders get tarred with the
    same brush. You'll note that Lafferty has never hesitated to
    throw his tar in every direction at the slightest
    inclination.

    And it is more than likely that indeed the third or so of
    pro rides who tested positive for EPO effects are the extent
    of the problem. Manzano believes that everyone dopes and
    Lance believes that hardly anyone dopes.

    One third is pretty damed high for sure but is isn't
    everyone. How many football players got that big
    "naturally"? And if they were "natural" then explain why in
    the last 15 years the average size has increased by 15%?

    And Lafferty believes that actovegin makes a superman out of
    you. Despite the idiotic theory behind it. Calve's serum
    ain't likely to do anything but thin your blood. Big
    surprise that huh?

    Chump observed that these guys taking drugs are complaining
    that they're sick all the time and feel like [censored]. And this
    is performance enhancement?

    Sure there are performance enhancing drugs. EPO and steroids
    are formost. HGH has never shown any significant results in
    laboratory studies.

    Most of the drugs that Manzano was discussing such as using
    a skin cream to mask injected drugs is just silly. Yes, you
    CAN mask injected drugs that way. But here's the way it
    works - you get a prescriptionb for a skin cream and then
    you inject your steroids and then you prey like hell that
    you don't get tested for the next week. Then if you're
    tested the levels are low enough that you can pass it off as
    a legal skin cream.

    Insulin certainly would show effects but I'd sure as hell
    hesitate to shoot that into myself or anyone else. Ask any
    diabetic about the side effects of too much insulin. They
    include: shakiness, jitteriness, dizziness, fainting,
    confusion, sweating, fast heartbeat, and blurry vision.
    Anyone recognize Manzanos symptoms in there? Worse things
    have been known to happen - seizures, fainting, chest pains,
    dificulty breathing. You can develope an immunity to insulin
    and you all know what that means don't you? The big sleep.

    All in all Manzano is doing a tremendous favor to future
    cyclists. And all in all he shouldn't feel too put upon when
    the majority of cyclists who don't dope call him a few
    names. It is likely that in the future they'll be a great
    deal more respectful of him.

  2. Dude, you really need help.

    "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:P_-
    [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Manzano, Guamont and Lobato have all been doing pro
    cycling a load of


    good.

    Quoted message said:

    And that ain't sarcasm.

    And yes, having Riis talk about doping as if he wasn't
    involved is pretty funny. Of course all we have to go on
    as far as Bjarne is concerned is rumors of rumors. That
    ought to be more than enough for Lafferty. After


    all,

    Quoted message said:

    as a lawyer he knows the impact of his statements.

    The problem is that the clean riders get tarred with the
    same brush.


    You'll

    Quoted message said:

    note that Lafferty has never hesitated to throw his tar in
    every direction at the slightest inclination.

    And it is more than likely that indeed the third or so of
    pro rides who tested positive for EPO effects are the
    extent of the problem. Manzano believes that everyone
    dopes and Lance believes that hardly anyone dopes.

    One third is pretty damed high for sure but is isn't
    everyone. How many football players got that big
    "naturally"? And if they were "natural" then explain
    why in the last 15 years the average size has
    increased by 15%?

    And Lafferty believes that actovegin makes a superman out
    of you. Despite the idiotic theory behind it. Calve's
    serum ain't likely to do anything


    but

    Quoted message said:

    thin your blood. Big surprise that huh?

    Chump observed that these guys taking drugs are
    complaining that they're sick all the time and feel like
    [censored]. And this is performance enhancement?

    Sure there are performance enhancing drugs. EPO and
    steroids are formost. HGH has never shown any significant
    results in laboratory studies.

    Most of the drugs that Manzano was discussing such as
    using a skin cream


    to

    Quoted message said:

    mask injected drugs is just silly. Yes, you CAN mask
    injected drugs that way. But here's the way it works - you
    get a prescriptionb for a skin


    cream

    Quoted message said:

    and then you inject your steroids and then you prey like
    hell that you


    don't

    Quoted message said:

    get tested for the next week. Then if you're tested the
    levels are low enough that you can pass it off as a legal
    skin cream.

    Insulin certainly would show effects but I'd sure as hell
    hesitate to


    shoot

    Quoted message said:

    that into myself or anyone else. Ask any diabetic about
    the side effects


    of

    Quoted message said:

    too much insulin. They include: shakiness, jitteriness,
    dizziness,


    fainting,

    Quoted message said:

    confusion, sweating, fast heartbeat, and blurry vision.
    Anyone recognize Manzanos symptoms in there? Worse things
    have been known to happen - seizures, fainting, chest
    pains, dificulty breathing. You can develope an immunity
    to insulin and you all know what that means don't you? The
    big sleep.

    All in all Manzano is doing a tremendous favor to future
    cyclists. And all in all he shouldn't feel too put upon
    when the majority of cyclists who don't dope call him a
    few names. It is likely that in the future they'll


    be

    Quoted message said:

    a great deal more respectful of him.

  3. "Roubaix" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Dude, you really need help.

    Man, you gays are always hitting on men ain't you?

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