Excellent links to the Ritalin issue ...



"Mark Probert-March 8, 2004" <Mark [email protected]> wrote
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>
> "mdd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "Mark Probert-March 8, 2004" <Mark Probert03-08-
> > [email protected]>
wrote
> > in message news:[email protected]
> > ny.cv.net...
> > >
> > > "mdd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > >
> > > > "Mark Probert-March 8, 2004" <Mark Probert03-08-
> > > > [email protected]>
> > wrote
> > > > in message news:5x%[email protected]
> > > > cvlny.cv.net...
> > > > >
> > > > > "mdd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Kathy Cole" <[email protected]> wrote in
> > > > > > message news:m4gm40hfh89vc6e5l3efs0c0jqlb7mp7u3-
> > > > > > @4ax.com...
> > > > > > > (Followups exclude asbi)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 11:13:16 -0000, "Anth"
> > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Is it not better not to have the drug in
> > > > > > > > their system and be
> > well,
> > > > > > > > than to have it in their system and suffer
> > > > > > > > potential side
> > effects?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If the kids were well in the first place,
> > > > > > > would the kids have
> been
> > > in
> > > > > > > the doctor's office??
> > > > > > Often, it is because the parents are sick, or at
> > > > > > least total
> > failures
> > > at
> > > > > > parenting. And so little Johnny gets a pill.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you say, HOGWASH? No? then practice.
> > > > >
> > > > > The decision to use medication is an agonizing one
> > > > > for all the
> parents
> > I
> > > > > have met. Many have delayed medication for years,
> > > > > why their child
> > > suffers
> > > > > failure after failur ein school, in social
> > > > > settings, etc. and,
when
> > they
> > > > > finally see no other route, and choose medication,
> > > > > they see
dramatic
> > > > changes
> > > > > in their child's life. Things like school success,
> > > > > friends,
> > > socialization,
> > > > > etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > What you said is utter ********, and is real old
> > > > > news.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Spoken like a true believer and user.
> > >
> > >
> > > I am most definitely a true beleiver as I have seen
> > > the results of medicating and not medicating.
> > >
> > > I am sorry that you hate children so much that you
> > > want to see them
fail
> > in
> > > school and be ostracized by their peers.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > I'm very sorry that you are so brainwashed that you can
> > only think of
> drugs
> > as the be all end all answer to your problems.
>
> When one is out of rational discourse, call the other side
> brainwashed. Typical Altie trick.
>
> As I said, I have seen it personally over 16+ years.
>
> I have seen the results . I
> > have seen the results of some alternative solutions
> > also. I stand by my statement that often it is the
> > parents that are sick.
>
> You can stand, sit or crawl in the slime, which, I
> suspect, is your preferred place. You are clueless.
>
> > If I may ask, why did you jump right in when the parents
> > were called to task?
>
> Because I have been the recipient of such **** as I chose
> to have my son
use
> medication as part of our overall plan.
>
> > Do you have some issues with YOUR parenting?
>
> None whatsoever. My son is doing fantastic with his life.
>
> > Or do you have some unresolved issues with your decision
> > to give drugs
to
> > those you care for?
>
> Nope. None at all. When I see my son happy, doing what he
> wants and succeeding, I have no issues at all.
>
> > Your speedy response could lead a person to think that
> > you must. You might talk to a professional about it
> > you know.
>
> I have talked to professionals about my sons needs.
>
> However, your use of offensive diagnosis proves, yet
> again, that you are
in
> the slime.
>
>
>
>
I see............. Like I said , you might talk to a
professional about it. It being YOUR oblivious problems with
the whole experience.
 
"mdd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Mark Probert-March 8, 2004" <Mark Probert03-08-
> [email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "mdd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > > "Mark Probert-March 8, 2004" <Mark Probert03-08-
> > > [email protected]>
> wrote
> > > in message news:[email protected]
> > > vlny.cv.net...
> > > >
> > > > "mdd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Mark Probert-March 8, 2004" <Mark
[email protected]>
> > > wrote
> > > > > in message news:5x%[email protected]
> > > > > .hcvlny.cv.net...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "mdd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Kathy Cole" <[email protected]> wrote in
> > > > > > > message news:m4gm40hfh89vc6e5l3efs0c0jqlb7mp7-
> > > > > > > [email protected]...
> > > > > > > > (Followups exclude asbi)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 11:13:16 -0000, "Anth"
> > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Is it not better not to have the drug in
> > > > > > > > > their system and
be
> > > well,
> > > > > > > > > than to have it in their system and suffer
> > > > > > > > > potential side
> > > effects?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If the kids were well in the first place,
> > > > > > > > would the kids
have
> > been
> > > > in
> > > > > > > > the doctor's office??
> > > > > > > Often, it is because the parents are sick, or
> > > > > > > at least total
> > > failures
> > > > at
> > > > > > > parenting. And so little Johnny gets a pill.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can you say, HOGWASH? No? then practice.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The decision to use medication is an agonizing
> > > > > > one for all the
> > parents
> > > I
> > > > > > have met. Many have delayed medication for
> > > > > > years, why their
child
> > > > suffers
> > > > > > failure after failur ein school, in social
> > > > > > settings, etc. and,
> when
> > > they
> > > > > > finally see no other route, and choose
> > > > > > medication, they see
> dramatic
> > > > > changes
> > > > > > in their child's life. Things like school
> > > > > > success, friends,
> > > > socialization,
> > > > > > etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What you said is utter ********, and is real old
> > > > > > news.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > Spoken like a true believer and user.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I am most definitely a true beleiver as I have seen
> > > > the results of medicating and not medicating.
> > > >
> > > > I am sorry that you hate children so much that you
> > > > want to see them
> fail
> > > in
> > > > school and be ostracized by their peers.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > I'm very sorry that you are so brainwashed that you
> > > can only think of
> > drugs
> > > as the be all end all answer to your problems.
> >
> > When one is out of rational discourse, call the other
> > side brainwashed. Typical Altie trick.
> >
> > As I said, I have seen it personally over 16+ years.
> >
> > I have seen the results . I
> > > have seen the results of some alternative solutions
> > > also. I stand by
my
> > > statement that often it is the parents that are sick.
> >
> > You can stand, sit or crawl in the slime, which, I
> > suspect, is your preferred place. You are clueless.
> >
> > > If I may ask, why did you jump right in when the
> > > parents were called
to
> > > task?
> >
> > Because I have been the recipient of such **** as I
> > chose to have my son
> use
> > medication as part of our overall plan.
> >
> > > Do you have some issues with YOUR parenting?
> >
> > None whatsoever. My son is doing fantastic with
> > his life.
> >
> > > Or do you have some unresolved issues with your
> > > decision to give drugs
> to
> > > those you care for?
> >
> > Nope. None at all. When I see my son happy, doing what
> > he wants and succeeding, I have no issues at all.
> >
> > > Your speedy response could lead a person to think that
> > > you must. You might talk to a professional about it
> > > you know.
> >
> > I have talked to professionals about my sons needs.
> >
> > However, your use of offensive diagnosis proves, yet
> > again, that you are
> in
> > the slime.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> I see............. Like I said , you might talk to a
> professional about
it.
> It being YOUR oblivious problems with the whole
> experience.

*m*ore *d*umb *d*iscourse.....
 
"mdd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Mark Probert-March 8, 2004" <Mark Probert03-08-
> [email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "mdd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > > "Mark Probert-March 8, 2004" <Mark Probert03-08-
> > > [email protected]>
> wrote
> > > in message news:[email protected]
> > > vlny.cv.net...
> > > >
> > > > "mdd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Mark Probert-March 8, 2004" <Mark
[email protected]>
> > > wrote
> > > > > in message news:5x%[email protected]
> > > > > .hcvlny.cv.net...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "mdd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Kathy Cole" <[email protected]> wrote in
> > > > > > > message news:m4gm40hfh89vc6e5l3efs0c0jqlb7mp7-
> > > > > > > [email protected]...
> > > > > > > > (Followups exclude asbi)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 11:13:16 -0000, "Anth"
> > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Is it not better not to have the drug in
> > > > > > > > > their system and
be
> > > well,
> > > > > > > > > than to have it in their system and suffer
> > > > > > > > > potential side
> > > effects?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If the kids were well in the first place,
> > > > > > > > would the kids
have
> > been
> > > > in
> > > > > > > > the doctor's office??
> > > > > > > Often, it is because the parents are sick, or
> > > > > > > at least total
> > > failures
> > > > at
> > > > > > > parenting. And so little Johnny gets a pill.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can you say, HOGWASH? No? then practice.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The decision to use medication is an agonizing
> > > > > > one for all the
> > parents
> > > I
> > > > > > have met. Many have delayed medication for
> > > > > > years, why their
child
> > > > suffers
> > > > > > failure after failur ein school, in social
> > > > > > settings, etc. and,
> when
> > > they
> > > > > > finally see no other route, and choose
> > > > > > medication, they see
> dramatic
> > > > > changes
> > > > > > in their child's life. Things like school
> > > > > > success, friends,
> > > > socialization,
> > > > > > etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What you said is utter ********, and is real old
> > > > > > news.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > Spoken like a true believer and user.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I am most definitely a true beleiver as I have seen
> > > > the results of medicating and not medicating.
> > > >
> > > > I am sorry that you hate children so much that you
> > > > want to see them
> fail
> > > in
> > > > school and be ostracized by their peers.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > I'm very sorry that you are so brainwashed that you
> > > can only think of
> > drugs
> > > as the be all end all answer to your problems.
> >
> > When one is out of rational discourse, call the other
> > side brainwashed. Typical Altie trick.
> >
> > As I said, I have seen it personally over 16+ years.
> >
> > I have seen the results . I
> > > have seen the results of some alternative solutions
> > > also. I stand by
my
> > > statement that often it is the parents that are sick.
> >
> > You can stand, sit or crawl in the slime, which, I
> > suspect, is your preferred place. You are clueless.
> >
> > > If I may ask, why did you jump right in when the
> > > parents were called
to
> > > task?
> >
> > Because I have been the recipient of such **** as I
> > chose to have my son
> use
> > medication as part of our overall plan.
> >
> > > Do you have some issues with YOUR parenting?
> >
> > None whatsoever. My son is doing fantastic with
> > his life.
> >
> > > Or do you have some unresolved issues with your
> > > decision to give drugs
> to
> > > those you care for?
> >
> > Nope. None at all. When I see my son happy, doing what
> > he wants and succeeding, I have no issues at all.
> >
> > > Your speedy response could lead a person to think that
> > > you must. You might talk to a professional about it
> > > you know.
> >
> > I have talked to professionals about my sons needs.
> >
> > However, your use of offensive diagnosis proves, yet
> > again, that you are
> in
> > the slime.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> I see............. Like I said , you might talk to a
> professional about
it.
> It being YOUR oblivious problems with the whole
> experience.

*m*ore *d*umb *d*iscourse.....
 
"mdd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Mark Probert-March 8, 2004" <Mark Probert03-08-
> [email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "mdd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > > "Mark Probert-March 8, 2004" <Mark Probert03-08-
> > > [email protected]>
> wrote
> > > in message news:[email protected]
> > > vlny.cv.net...
> > > >
> > > > "mdd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Mark Probert-March 8, 2004" <Mark
[email protected]>
> > > wrote
> > > > > in message news:5x%[email protected]
> > > > > .hcvlny.cv.net...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "mdd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Kathy Cole" <[email protected]> wrote in
> > > > > > > message news:m4gm40hfh89vc6e5l3efs0c0jqlb7mp7-
> > > > > > > [email protected]...
> > > > > > > > (Followups exclude asbi)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 11:13:16 -0000, "Anth"
> > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Is it not better not to have the drug in
> > > > > > > > > their system and
be
> > > well,
> > > > > > > > > than to have it in their system and suffer
> > > > > > > > > potential side
> > > effects?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If the kids were well in the first place,
> > > > > > > > would the kids
have
> > been
> > > > in
> > > > > > > > the doctor's office??
> > > > > > > Often, it is because the parents are sick, or
> > > > > > > at least total
> > > failures
> > > > at
> > > > > > > parenting. And so little Johnny gets a pill.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can you say, HOGWASH? No? then practice.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The decision to use medication is an agonizing
> > > > > > one for all the
> > parents
> > > I
> > > > > > have met. Many have delayed medication for
> > > > > > years, why their
child
> > > > suffers
> > > > > > failure after failur ein school, in social
> > > > > > settings, etc. and,
> when
> > > they
> > > > > > finally see no other route, and choose
> > > > > > medication, they see
> dramatic
> > > > > changes
> > > > > > in their child's life. Things like school
> > > > > > success, friends,
> > > > socialization,
> > > > > > etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What you said is utter ********, and is real old
> > > > > > news.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > Spoken like a true believer and user.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I am most definitely a true beleiver as I have seen
> > > > the results of medicating and not medicating.
> > > >
> > > > I am sorry that you hate children so much that you
> > > > want to see them
> fail
> > > in
> > > > school and be ostracized by their peers.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > I'm very sorry that you are so brainwashed that you
> > > can only think of
> > drugs
> > > as the be all end all answer to your problems.
> >
> > When one is out of rational discourse, call the other
> > side brainwashed. Typical Altie trick.
> >
> > As I said, I have seen it personally over 16+ years.
> >
> > I have seen the results . I
> > > have seen the results of some alternative solutions
> > > also. I stand by
my
> > > statement that often it is the parents that are sick.
> >
> > You can stand, sit or crawl in the slime, which, I
> > suspect, is your preferred place. You are clueless.
> >
> > > If I may ask, why did you jump right in when the
> > > parents were called
to
> > > task?
> >
> > Because I have been the recipient of such **** as I
> > chose to have my son
> use
> > medication as part of our overall plan.
> >
> > > Do you have some issues with YOUR parenting?
> >
> > None whatsoever. My son is doing fantastic with
> > his life.
> >
> > > Or do you have some unresolved issues with your
> > > decision to give drugs
> to
> > > those you care for?
> >
> > Nope. None at all. When I see my son happy, doing what
> > he wants and succeeding, I have no issues at all.
> >
> > > Your speedy response could lead a person to think that
> > > you must. You might talk to a professional about it
> > > you know.
> >
> > I have talked to professionals about my sons needs.
> >
> > However, your use of offensive diagnosis proves, yet
> > again, that you are
> in
> > the slime.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> I see............. Like I said , you might talk to a
> professional about
it.
> It being YOUR oblivious problems with the whole
> experience.

*m*ore *d*umb *d*iscourse.....
 
"Mark Probert-March 8, 2004" <Mark [email protected]> wrote
in message news:[email protected]...
>
> "mdd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "Mark Probert-March 8, 2004" <Mark Probert03-08-
> > [email protected]>
wrote
> > in message news:[email protected]
> > ny.cv.net...
> > >
> > > "mdd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > >
> > > > "Mark Probert-March 8, 2004" <Mark Probert03-08-
> > > > [email protected]>
> > wrote
> > > > in message news:5x%[email protected]
> > > > cvlny.cv.net...
> > > > >
> > > > > "mdd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Kathy Cole" <[email protected]> wrote in
> > > > > > message news:m4gm40hfh89vc6e5l3efs0c0jqlb7mp7u3-
> > > > > > @4ax.com...
> > > > > > > (Followups exclude asbi)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 11:13:16 -0000, "Anth"
> > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Is it not better not to have the drug in
> > > > > > > > their system and be
> > well,
> > > > > > > > than to have it in their system and suffer
> > > > > > > > potential side
> > effects?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If the kids were well in the first place,
> > > > > > > would the kids have
> been
> > > in
> > > > > > > the doctor's office??
> > > > > > Often, it is because the parents are sick, or at
> > > > > > least total
> > failures
> > > at
> > > > > > parenting. And so little Johnny gets a pill.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you say, HOGWASH? No? then practice.
> > > > >
> > > > > The decision to use medication is an agonizing one
> > > > > for all the
> parents
> > I
> > > > > have met. Many have delayed medication for years,
> > > > > why their child
> > > suffers
> > > > > failure after failur ein school, in social
> > > > > settings, etc. and,
when
> > they
> > > > > finally see no other route, and choose medication,
> > > > > they see
dramatic
> > > > changes
> > > > > in their child's life. Things like school success,
> > > > > friends,
> > > socialization,
> > > > > etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > What you said is utter ********, and is real old
> > > > > news.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Spoken like a true believer and user.
> > >
> > >
> > > I am most definitely a true beleiver as I have seen
> > > the results of medicating and not medicating.
> > >
> > > I am sorry that you hate children so much that you
> > > want to see them
fail
> > in
> > > school and be ostracized by their peers.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > I'm very sorry that you are so brainwashed that you can
> > only think of
> drugs
> > as the be all end all answer to your problems.
>
> When one is out of rational discourse, call the other side
> brainwashed. Typical Altie trick.
>
> As I said, I have seen it personally over 16+ years.
>
> I have seen the results . I
> > have seen the results of some alternative solutions
> > also. I stand by my statement that often it is the
> > parents that are sick.
>
> You can stand, sit or crawl in the slime, which, I
> suspect, is your preferred place. You are clueless.
>
> > If I may ask, why did you jump right in when the parents
> > were called to task?
>
> Because I have been the recipient of such **** as I chose
> to have my son
use
> medication as part of our overall plan.
>
> > Do you have some issues with YOUR parenting?
>
> None whatsoever. My son is doing fantastic with his life.
>
> > Or do you have some unresolved issues with your decision
> > to give drugs
to
> > those you care for?
>
> Nope. None at all. When I see my son happy, doing what he
> wants and succeeding, I have no issues at all.
>
> > Your speedy response could lead a person to think that
> > you must. You might talk to a professional about it
> > you know.
>
> I have talked to professionals about my sons needs.
>
> However, your use of offensive diagnosis proves, yet
> again, that you are
in
> the slime.
>
>
>
>
I see............. Like I said , you might talk to a
professional about it. It being YOUR oblivious problems with
the whole experience.
 
"Mark Probert-March 8, 2004" <Mark [email protected]> wrote
in message news:[email protected]...
>
> "mdd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "Mark Probert-March 8, 2004" <Mark Probert03-08-
> > [email protected]>
wrote
> > in message news:[email protected]
> > ny.cv.net...
> > >
> > > "mdd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > >
> > > > "Mark Probert-March 8, 2004" <Mark Probert03-08-
> > > > [email protected]>
> > wrote
> > > > in message news:5x%[email protected]
> > > > cvlny.cv.net...
> > > > >
> > > > > "mdd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Kathy Cole" <[email protected]> wrote in
> > > > > > message news:m4gm40hfh89vc6e5l3efs0c0jqlb7mp7u3-
> > > > > > @4ax.com...
> > > > > > > (Followups exclude asbi)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 11:13:16 -0000, "Anth"
> > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Is it not better not to have the drug in
> > > > > > > > their system and be
> > well,
> > > > > > > > than to have it in their system and suffer
> > > > > > > > potential side
> > effects?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If the kids were well in the first place,
> > > > > > > would the kids have
> been
> > > in
> > > > > > > the doctor's office??
> > > > > > Often, it is because the parents are sick, or at
> > > > > > least total
> > failures
> > > at
> > > > > > parenting. And so little Johnny gets a pill.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you say, HOGWASH? No? then practice.
> > > > >
> > > > > The decision to use medication is an agonizing one
> > > > > for all the
> parents
> > I
> > > > > have met. Many have delayed medication for years,
> > > > > why their child
> > > suffers
> > > > > failure after failur ein school, in social
> > > > > settings, etc. and,
when
> > they
> > > > > finally see no other route, and choose medication,
> > > > > they see
dramatic
> > > > changes
> > > > > in their child's life. Things like school success,
> > > > > friends,
> > > socialization,
> > > > > etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > What you said is utter ********, and is real old
> > > > > news.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Spoken like a true believer and user.
> > >
> > >
> > > I am most definitely a true beleiver as I have seen
> > > the results of medicating and not medicating.
> > >
> > > I am sorry that you hate children so much that you
> > > want to see them
fail
> > in
> > > school and be ostracized by their peers.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > I'm very sorry that you are so brainwashed that you can
> > only think of
> drugs
> > as the be all end all answer to your problems.
>
> When one is out of rational discourse, call the other side
> brainwashed. Typical Altie trick.
>
> As I said, I have seen it personally over 16+ years.
>
> I have seen the results . I
> > have seen the results of some alternative solutions
> > also. I stand by my statement that often it is the
> > parents that are sick.
>
> You can stand, sit or crawl in the slime, which, I
> suspect, is your preferred place. You are clueless.
>
> > If I may ask, why did you jump right in when the parents
> > were called to task?
>
> Because I have been the recipient of such **** as I chose
> to have my son
use
> medication as part of our overall plan.
>
> > Do you have some issues with YOUR parenting?
>
> None whatsoever. My son is doing fantastic with his life.
>
> > Or do you have some unresolved issues with your decision
> > to give drugs
to
> > those you care for?
>
> Nope. None at all. When I see my son happy, doing what he
> wants and succeeding, I have no issues at all.
>
> > Your speedy response could lead a person to think that
> > you must. You might talk to a professional about it
> > you know.
>
> I have talked to professionals about my sons needs.
>
> However, your use of offensive diagnosis proves, yet
> again, that you are
in
> the slime.
>
>
>
>
I see............. Like I said , you might talk to a
professional about it. It being YOUR oblivious problems with
the whole experience.
 
"mdd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Mark Probert-March 8, 2004" <Mark Probert03-08-
> [email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "mdd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > > "Mark Probert-March 8, 2004" <Mark Probert03-08-
> > > [email protected]>
> wrote
> > > in message news:[email protected]
> > > vlny.cv.net...
> > > >
> > > > "mdd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Mark Probert-March 8, 2004" <Mark
[email protected]>
> > > wrote
> > > > > in message news:5x%[email protected]
> > > > > .hcvlny.cv.net...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "mdd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Kathy Cole" <[email protected]> wrote in
> > > > > > > message news:m4gm40hfh89vc6e5l3efs0c0jqlb7mp7-
> > > > > > > [email protected]...
> > > > > > > > (Followups exclude asbi)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 11:13:16 -0000, "Anth"
> > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Is it not better not to have the drug in
> > > > > > > > > their system and
be
> > > well,
> > > > > > > > > than to have it in their system and suffer
> > > > > > > > > potential side
> > > effects?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If the kids were well in the first place,
> > > > > > > > would the kids
have
> > been
> > > > in
> > > > > > > > the doctor's office??
> > > > > > > Often, it is because the parents are sick, or
> > > > > > > at least total
> > > failures
> > > > at
> > > > > > > parenting. And so little Johnny gets a pill.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can you say, HOGWASH? No? then practice.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The decision to use medication is an agonizing
> > > > > > one for all the
> > parents
> > > I
> > > > > > have met. Many have delayed medication for
> > > > > > years, why their
child
> > > > suffers
> > > > > > failure after failur ein school, in social
> > > > > > settings, etc. and,
> when
> > > they
> > > > > > finally see no other route, and choose
> > > > > > medication, they see
> dramatic
> > > > > changes
> > > > > > in their child's life. Things like school
> > > > > > success, friends,
> > > > socialization,
> > > > > > etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What you said is utter ********, and is real old
> > > > > > news.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > Spoken like a true believer and user.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I am most definitely a true beleiver as I have seen
> > > > the results of medicating and not medicating.
> > > >
> > > > I am sorry that you hate children so much that you
> > > > want to see them
> fail
> > > in
> > > > school and be ostracized by their peers.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > I'm very sorry that you are so brainwashed that you
> > > can only think of
> > drugs
> > > as the be all end all answer to your problems.
> >
> > When one is out of rational discourse, call the other
> > side brainwashed. Typical Altie trick.
> >
> > As I said, I have seen it personally over 16+ years.
> >
> > I have seen the results . I
> > > have seen the results of some alternative solutions
> > > also. I stand by
my
> > > statement that often it is the parents that are sick.
> >
> > You can stand, sit or crawl in the slime, which, I
> > suspect, is your preferred place. You are clueless.
> >
> > > If I may ask, why did you jump right in when the
> > > parents were called
to
> > > task?
> >
> > Because I have been the recipient of such **** as I
> > chose to have my son
> use
> > medication as part of our overall plan.
> >
> > > Do you have some issues with YOUR parenting?
> >
> > None whatsoever. My son is doing fantastic with
> > his life.
> >
> > > Or do you have some unresolved issues with your
> > > decision to give drugs
> to
> > > those you care for?
> >
> > Nope. None at all. When I see my son happy, doing what
> > he wants and succeeding, I have no issues at all.
> >
> > > Your speedy response could lead a person to think that
> > > you must. You might talk to a professional about it
> > > you know.
> >
> > I have talked to professionals about my sons needs.
> >
> > However, your use of offensive diagnosis proves, yet
> > again, that you are
> in
> > the slime.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> I see............. Like I said , you might talk to a
> professional about
it.
> It being YOUR oblivious problems with the whole
> experience.

*m*ore *d*umb *d*iscourse.....
 
"mdd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Mark Probert-March 8, 2004" <Mark Probert03-08-
> [email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "mdd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > > "Mark Probert-March 8, 2004" <Mark Probert03-08-
> > > [email protected]>
> wrote
> > > in message news:[email protected]
> > > vlny.cv.net...
> > > >
> > > > "mdd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Mark Probert-March 8, 2004" <Mark
[email protected]>
> > > wrote
> > > > > in message news:5x%[email protected]
> > > > > .hcvlny.cv.net...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "mdd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Kathy Cole" <[email protected]> wrote in
> > > > > > > message news:m4gm40hfh89vc6e5l3efs0c0jqlb7mp7-
> > > > > > > [email protected]...
> > > > > > > > (Followups exclude asbi)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 11:13:16 -0000, "Anth"
> > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Is it not better not to have the drug in
> > > > > > > > > their system and
be
> > > well,
> > > > > > > > > than to have it in their system and suffer
> > > > > > > > > potential side
> > > effects?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If the kids were well in the first place,
> > > > > > > > would the kids
have
> > been
> > > > in
> > > > > > > > the doctor's office??
> > > > > > > Often, it is because the parents are sick, or
> > > > > > > at least total
> > > failures
> > > > at
> > > > > > > parenting. And so little Johnny gets a pill.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can you say, HOGWASH? No? then practice.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The decision to use medication is an agonizing
> > > > > > one for all the
> > parents
> > > I
> > > > > > have met. Many have delayed medication for
> > > > > > years, why their
child
> > > > suffers
> > > > > > failure after failur ein school, in social
> > > > > > settings, etc. and,
> when
> > > they
> > > > > > finally see no other route, and choose
> > > > > > medication, they see
> dramatic
> > > > > changes
> > > > > > in their child's life. Things like school
> > > > > > success, friends,
> > > > socialization,
> > > > > > etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What you said is utter ********, and is real old
> > > > > > news.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > Spoken like a true believer and user.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I am most definitely a true beleiver as I have seen
> > > > the results of medicating and not medicating.
> > > >
> > > > I am sorry that you hate children so much that you
> > > > want to see them
> fail
> > > in
> > > > school and be ostracized by their peers.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > I'm very sorry that you are so brainwashed that you
> > > can only think of
> > drugs
> > > as the be all end all answer to your problems.
> >
> > When one is out of rational discourse, call the other
> > side brainwashed. Typical Altie trick.
> >
> > As I said, I have seen it personally over 16+ years.
> >
> > I have seen the results . I
> > > have seen the results of some alternative solutions
> > > also. I stand by
my
> > > statement that often it is the parents that are sick.
> >
> > You can stand, sit or crawl in the slime, which, I
> > suspect, is your preferred place. You are clueless.
> >
> > > If I may ask, why did you jump right in when the
> > > parents were called
to
> > > task?
> >
> > Because I have been the recipient of such **** as I
> > chose to have my son
> use
> > medication as part of our overall plan.
> >
> > > Do you have some issues with YOUR parenting?
> >
> > None whatsoever. My son is doing fantastic with
> > his life.
> >
> > > Or do you have some unresolved issues with your
> > > decision to give drugs
> to
> > > those you care for?
> >
> > Nope. None at all. When I see my son happy, doing what
> > he wants and succeeding, I have no issues at all.
> >
> > > Your speedy response could lead a person to think that
> > > you must. You might talk to a professional about it
> > > you know.
> >
> > I have talked to professionals about my sons needs.
> >
> > However, your use of offensive diagnosis proves, yet
> > again, that you are
> in
> > the slime.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> I see............. Like I said , you might talk to a
> professional about
it.
> It being YOUR oblivious problems with the whole
> experience.

*m*ore *d*umb *d*iscourse.....
 
"Mark Probert-March 9, 2004" <Mark [email protected]> wrote
in message news:[email protected]...
>
> "mdd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "Mark Probert-March 8, 2004" <Mark Probert03-08-
> > [email protected]>
wrote
> > in message news:[email protected]
> > ny.cv.net...
> > >
> > > "mdd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > >
> > > > "Mark Probert-March 8, 2004" <Mark Probert03-08-
> > > > [email protected]>
> > wrote
> > > > in message news:[email protected]
> > > > hcvlny.cv.net...
> > > > >
> > > > > "mdd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Mark Probert-March 8, 2004" <Mark
> [email protected]>
> > > > wrote
> > > > > > in message
news:5x%[email protected]...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "mdd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Kathy Cole" <[email protected]> wrote in
> > > > > > > > message news:m4gm40hfh89vc6e5l3efs0c0jqlb7m-
> > > > > > > > [email protected]...
> > > > > > > > > (Followups exclude asbi)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 11:13:16 -0000, "Anth"
> > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Is it not better not to have the drug in
> > > > > > > > > > their system
and
> be
> > > > well,
> > > > > > > > > > than to have it in their system and
> > > > > > > > > > suffer potential
side
> > > > effects?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If the kids were well in the first place,
> > > > > > > > > would the kids
> have
> > > been
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > the doctor's office??
> > > > > > > > Often, it is because the parents are sick,
> > > > > > > > or at least total
> > > > failures
> > > > > at
> > > > > > > > parenting. And so little Johnny gets a pill.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can you say, HOGWASH? No? then practice.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The decision to use medication is an agonizing
> > > > > > > one for all the
> > > parents
> > > > I
> > > > > > > have met. Many have delayed medication for
> > > > > > > years, why their
> child
> > > > > suffers
> > > > > > > failure after failur ein school, in social
> > > > > > > settings, etc. and,
> > when
> > > > they
> > > > > > > finally see no other route, and choose
> > > > > > > medication, they see
> > dramatic
> > > > > > changes
> > > > > > > in their child's life. Things like school
> > > > > > > success, friends,
> > > > > socialization,
> > > > > > > etc.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What you said is utter ********, and is real
> > > > > > > old news.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Spoken like a true believer and user.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I am most definitely a true beleiver as I have
> > > > > seen the results of medicating and not medicating.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am sorry that you hate children so much that you
> > > > > want to see
them
> > fail
> > > > in
> > > > > school and be ostracized by their peers.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > I'm very sorry that you are so brainwashed that you
> > > > can only think
of
> > > drugs
> > > > as the be all end all answer to your problems.
> > >
> > > When one is out of rational discourse, call the other
> > > side
brainwashed.
> > > Typical Altie trick.
> > >
> > > As I said, I have seen it personally over 16+ years.
> > >
> > > I have seen the results . I
> > > > have seen the results of some alternative solutions
> > > > also. I stand by
> my
> > > > statement that often it is the parents that are
> > > > sick.
> > >
> > > You can stand, sit or crawl in the slime, which, I
> > > suspect, is your preferred place. You are clueless.
> > >
> > > > If I may ask, why did you jump right in when the
> > > > parents were called
> to
> > > > task?
> > >
> > > Because I have been the recipient of such **** as I
> > > chose to have my
son
> > use
> > > medication as part of our overall plan.
> > >
> > > > Do you have some issues with YOUR parenting?
> > >
> > > None whatsoever. My son is doing fantastic with his
> > > life.
> > >
> > > > Or do you have some unresolved issues with your
> > > > decision to give
drugs
> > to
> > > > those you care for?
> > >
> > > Nope. None at all. When I see my son happy, doing what
> > > he wants and succeeding, I have no issues at all.
> > >
> > > > Your speedy response could lead a person to think
> > > > that you must. You might talk to a professional
> > > > about it you know.
> > >
> > > I have talked to professionals about my sons needs.
> > >
> > > However, your use of offensive diagnosis proves, yet
> > > again, that you
are
> > in
> > > the slime.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > I see............. Like I said , you might talk to a
> > professional about
> it.
> > It being YOUR oblivious problems with the whole
> > experience.
>
> *m*ore *d*umb *d*iscourse.....
>
>
>
Your choice dude.