FA: RBR Cycling Jersey



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Steven L. Sheff

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I've got several cycling jerseys up on Ebay ... just waiting for bids, including a pristine RBR
jersey!!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=22685&item=1986111668

To see all auctions, click the URL below:

<http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=sheffiel
d99>

Included are:

ADR World Championship Jersey (as worn by LeMond):

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=22685&item=1986095918

Carrera-Vagabond Jersey (as worn by Chiappucci):

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=22685&item=1986100447

Banesto Jersey (as worn by Indurain and Delgado):

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=22685&item=1986102768

WordPerfect Jersey (as worn by Eric Vanderaerden and Marty Jemison):

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=22685&item=1986105789

Festina Jersey (as worn by Virenque, Herve, and Brochard):

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=22685&item=1986110343

Rec.bicycles.racing Jersey:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=22685&item=1986111668

St. Raphael wool/acrylic Jersey (by Santini):

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=22685&item=1986113090

Molteni wool/acrylic Jersey (by Santini):

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=22685&item=1986114126

Santini (?) wool/acrylic Jersey (solid red):

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=22685&item=1986115494

Bid early! Bid often! Make me a rich man! (or not, but please help me clean out the closet!)

--

Steven L. Sheffield stevens at veloworks dot com veloworks at worldnet dot ay tea tee dot net bellum
pax est libertas seritus est nescio robur est aitch tee tea pea colon [for word] slash [four ward]
slash double-you double-yew double-ewe dot veloworks dot com [four word] slash
 
G

G. Cook

Guest
What kind of a dork wears a rbr jersey? Maybe Albright or Chang? Hmmm...one possibility is the
likelihood of wearing this jersey is directly related to the number of posts a person authors per
year. Any thoughts?

"Steven L. Sheffield" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BA350E42.1CC17%[email protected]...
>
>
> I've got several cycling jerseys up on Ebay ... just waiting for bids, including a pristine RBR
> jersey!!!!
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=22685&item=1986111668
>
> To see all auctions, click the URL below:
>
>
<http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=sheffiel
> d99>
>
> Included are:
>
> ADR World Championship Jersey (as worn by LeMond):
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=22685&item=1986095918
>
> Carrera-Vagabond Jersey (as worn by Chiappucci):
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=22685&item=1986100447
>
> Banesto Jersey (as worn by Indurain and Delgado):
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=22685&item=1986102768
>
> WordPerfect Jersey (as worn by Eric Vanderaerden and Marty Jemison):
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=22685&item=1986105789
>
> Festina Jersey (as worn by Virenque, Herve, and Brochard):
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=22685&item=1986110343
>
> Rec.bicycles.racing Jersey:
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=22685&item=1986111668
>
> St. Raphael wool/acrylic Jersey (by Santini):
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=22685&item=1986113090
>
> Molteni wool/acrylic Jersey (by Santini):
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=22685&item=1986114126
>
> Santini (?) wool/acrylic Jersey (solid red):
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=22685&item=1986115494
>
> Bid early! Bid often! Make me a rich man! (or not, but please help me clean out the closet!)
>
>
> --
>
> Steven L. Sheffield stevens at veloworks dot com veloworks at worldnet dot ay tea tee dot net
> bellum pax est libertas seritus est nescio robur est aitch tee tea pea colon [for word] slash
> [four ward] slash double-you double-yew double-ewe dot veloworks dot com [four word] slash
 
K

Ken Papai

Guest
"Steven L. Sheffield (new SPAM king)" <
>
>
> I've got several cycling jerseys up on

Use rec.bicycles.marketplace for selling bikes and bike parts. This newsgroup is about Racing of
Bikes, teams, strategy, races, and is *not your personal "For Sale" platform* Thanks!

rec.bicycles.marketplace: Bicycles, components, ancillary equipment and services wanted or for sale,
reviews of such things, places to buy them, and evaluations of these sources. Not for discussion of
general engineering, maintenance, or repair -- see rec.bicycles.tech

rec.bicycles.racing: Race results, racing techniques, rules, and organizations. Not Wanted To Buy
(WTB) Nor racing equipment -- see rec.bicycles.marketplace or rec.bicycles.tech

Advertising on Usenet is a frequently misunderstood subject. The purpose of this message is to
explain some Usenet conventions regarding advertising to new users and, hopefully, spare everyone
involved a lot of needless worry.

To start with, let's define the term. "Usenet" is *not* synonymous with "Internet." Usenet is the
system of online discussion groups, called "newsgroups," e.g. rec.humor, comp.misc,
news.announce.newusers, talk.origins, misc.rural, alt.sex, and so forth. This FAQ does not attempt
to describe in detail all the various ways in which one can conduct commercial activity over the
Internet and attempts simply to explain the issues involved in advertising in Usenet newsgroups.

The philosophy of Usenet
------------------------
Usenet started out in 1980 as a UNIX network linking sites which needed to talk about and receive
prompt updates on UNIX system configuration and other UNIX questions. Message traffic started out at
a few messages/year... In the beginning, Usenet was largely confined to educational institutions
such as universities and colleges, and to research companies and other commercial enterprises with
UNIX machines on-site. It has now grown to include millions of users at commercial sites such as
America Online...

That these customs and traditions began when Usenet was much smaller and quite different in nature
in no way lessens the anger many users feel when these customs and traditions are violated. One such
custom is the tradition and belief that it is rude to advertise for profit in Usenet newsgroups.

Advertising is widely seen as an 'off-topic' intrusion into the discussions of any particular
newsgroup (newsgroup is the Usenet word for discussion group or bulletin board). Each newsgroup has
a specific set of subjects it is intended to cover, and in order for newsgroups to function as
effective discussion forums, it is important that people stay 'on-topic'. If everyone - even a
meager 10% of newsgroup posters - disregarded the particular topics each newsgroup is intended to
cover and simply posted whatever they wanted wherever they want, the entire system would break down
into chaos and meaninglessness.

Due to the decentralized nature of Usenet, there is no one person or body which can "enforce" the
custom of staying on-topic. It falls on each user to help preserve the culture of open discussion
and free speech that Usenet has come to embody by not posting off-topic material.

This, of course, includes advertising. Advertising is by far the most pervasive form of off-topic
posting, and therefore, gets most of the heat.

An analogy
----------
If an analogy will help you to visualize the situation, imagine a meeting at your workplace
or school.

At this meeting, people are discussing a certain issue -- for example, getting new sidewalks
installed downtown or getting new schoolbooks for the elementary school, or what to do about the new
product your company is planning on introducing.

In the midst of the discussions on the new sidewalks or textbooks or product, someone walks into the
room, interrupts everyone, then reads an advertisement for a local restaurant. He or she then leaves
without waiting for comment.

Now imagine if this happened over and over again each time your group tried to hold a meeting. Every
time someone tried to make a point, in walks some other stranger who reads an ad for some business
that has nothing to do with the subject of the meeting.

It would soon become rather difficult to hold effective meetings, wouldn't it?

Similarly, it's very difficult to keep Usenet newsgroups interesting and useful when people deluge
newsgroups with advertisements.

How to advertise on Usenet
--------------------------
*.forsale and *.marketplace newsgroups

There are many newsgroups directly involved in selling. You can generally spot them by the word
"forsale" or "marketplace" in their names.

For example, rec.games.board.marketplace is a newsgroup where people post for-sale and want-to-buy
notices about board games they want to buy or sell.

Similarly, the misc.forsale.* hierarchy is full of newsgroups for buying and selling various
computers, monitors, printers, devices, and so forth, as well as misc.forsale.non-computer.*, for
selling stuff.

You can access the FAQ and archives via the Web using these URLs:

http://draco.acs.uci.edu/rbfaq/
http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/bicycles-faq/top.html
 
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Tom Kunich

Guest
"G. Cook" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> What kind of a dork wears a rbr jersey? Maybe Albright or Chang? Hmmm...one possibility is the
> likelihood of wearing this jersey is directly related to the number of posts a person authors per
> year. Any thoughts?

If you look in Papai's photos you'll see some of our European corespondents wearing the RBR kit. I'd
hardly call any of those guys "dorks".

You appear to be following the Andrew Albright/Rob Palachick/Joe Cipale school of RBR posting. I
suppose we're all supposed to think that your name is Cook.
 
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Ken Papai

Guest
"Steven L. Sheffield" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BA36F9A7.1CF8B%[email protected]...
> in article [email protected], Tom Kunich at [email protected]
> wrote on 12/31/2002 07:24 AM:
>
> > "Steven L. Sheffield" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:<BA368594.1CF02%[email protected]>...
> >> Wow! It took about 12 hours for you to get me!
> >>
> >> Too bad the RBR jersey sold in about 15 minutes after posting ... now I can't keep posting its
> >> availability. And based on the number of posts
in
> >> the thread, RBR/rec.bicycles.racing jerseys are definitely ON topic.
> >>
> >> So there! Nyah! Neener neener neener!!!! Plblbtpbtbptbbtt....
> >
> > Ain't it enough that you sold the jersey in 15 minutes?
>
>
> Nope.
>
> Maybe I'll start posting my ads in r.b.marketplace (which I generally do, and only post here when
> something might be of particular interest), and
then
> I'll start posting links to my r.b.marketplace posts!
>
> I contribute when I have something to contribute; I poke fun when
something
> is poke-fun-worthy; and I generally keeps FS/FA posts out of r.b.racing.
I
> don't recall Ken complaining when the jersey was being designed and sales were being solicited
> originally.
>
> So I included a few extra links to other auctions as well ... shucky-darn. I figured if I'm gonna
> generate a FAQ/charter post from Ken P., then I
might
> as well make it worthwhile by including additional auctions.
>
> Note, that since the RBR jersey sold, there hasn't been another auction posting from me in this
> newsgroup, whereas I have posted a couple more
times
> in r.b.marketplace for my various auctions.
>
>
> > Ken has provided a service to the group for the last 5 years. Somehow he always gets a ration of
> > **** about it from the people who are in the least position to complain about him. (With due
> > regard that you aren't one of the above.)
>
>
> Posting the FAQ/charter every time someone posts an ad takes up FAR more bandwidth than the actual
> ad. Somehow, I don't find that to be a "service to the group."

Really. Wow.

You have been sleeping in Utah haven't you?!!

There is Steven's Universe and then everyone else's. Steven's NEVER wrong in his. Whereas all
standup people admit to mistakes perfect people never do.

-Ken
 
R

Ronde Champ

Guest
> Whereas all standup people admit to mistakes perfect people never do.

Perfect people don't make mistakes, dumbass. That's what makes them perfect.

Thanks, Ronde Champ Perfect
 
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Tom Kunich

Guest
"TritonRider" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >From: [email protected] (Tom Kunich)
>
> >You appear to be following the Andrew Albright/Rob Palachick/Joe Cipale school of RBR posting. I
> >suppose we're all supposed to think that your name is Cook.
>
> Tom, you've got to admit, Rob adds humor and ocasionaly some good info.

Yes, but most of the time he an his ilk add nothing but wise cracks about other's. All you have to
do is google back about 5 years before the in-crowd came along and although there were problems then
it's nothing like since they decided that this was their private little sewer and everyone started
agreeing with them. Ken Papai tried to build a few bridges for several years but the result of that
was that he discovered that if you didn't kiss their asses every posting they attacked you anyway.
 
T

Tom Kunich

Guest
"Ken Papai" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:G5%[email protected]...
>
> "Steven L. Sheffield (new SPAM king)" <
> >
> >
> > I've got several cycling jerseys up on
>
> Use rec.bicycles.marketplace for selling bikes and bike parts. This newsgroup is about Racing of
> Bikes, teams, strategy, races, and is *not your personal "For Sale" platform* Thanks!

I would agree in every case except the one about the RBR jersey. Since we designed it and
distributed it, this jersey is far more likely to be of interest to RBR members (and apparently it
was) than normal marketplace subscribers.
 
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Steven L. Sheff

Guest
Wow! It took about 12 hours for you to get me!

Too bad the RBR jersey sold in about 15 minutes after posting ... now I can't keep posting its
availability. And based on the number of posts in the thread, RBR/rec.bicycles.racing jerseys are
definitely ON topic.

So there! Nyah! Neener neener neener!!!! Plblbtpbtbptbbtt....

in article G5%[email protected], Ken Papai at [email protected] wrote on
12/30/2002 10:09 AM:

>
> "Steven L. Sheffield (new SPAM king)" <
>>
>>
>> I've got several cycling jerseys up on
>
> Use rec.bicycles.marketplace for selling bikes and bike parts. This newsgroup is about Racing of
> Bikes, teams, strategy, races, and is *not your personal "For Sale" platform* Thanks!
>
> rec.bicycles.marketplace: Bicycles, components, ancillary equipment and services wanted or for
> sale, reviews of such things, places to buy them, and evaluations of these sources. Not for
> discussion of general engineering, maintenance, or repair -- see rec.bicycles.tech
>
> rec.bicycles.racing: Race results, racing techniques, rules, and organizations. Not Wanted To Buy
> (WTB) Nor racing equipment -- see rec.bicycles.marketplace or rec.bicycles.tech
>
> Advertising on Usenet is a frequently misunderstood subject. The purpose of this message is to
> explain some Usenet conventions regarding advertising to new users and, hopefully, spare everyone
> involved a lot of needless worry.
>
> To start with, let's define the term. "Usenet" is *not* synonymous with "Internet." Usenet is the
> system of online discussion groups, called "newsgroups," e.g. rec.humor, comp.misc,
> news.announce.newusers, talk.origins, misc.rural, alt.sex, and so forth. This FAQ does not attempt
> to describe in detail all the various ways in which one can conduct commercial activity over the
> Internet and attempts simply to explain the issues involved in advertising in Usenet newsgroups.
>
> The philosophy of Usenet
> ------------------------
> Usenet started out in 1980 as a UNIX network linking sites which needed to talk about and receive
> prompt updates on UNIX system configuration and other UNIX questions. Message traffic started out
> at a few messages/year... In the beginning, Usenet was largely confined to educational
> institutions such as universities and colleges, and to research companies and other commercial
> enterprises with UNIX machines on-site. It has now grown to include millions of users at
> commercial sites such as America Online...
>
> That these customs and traditions began when Usenet was much smaller and quite different in nature
> in no way lessens the anger many users feel when these customs and traditions are violated. One
> such custom is the tradition and belief that it is rude to advertise for profit in Usenet
> newsgroups.
>
> Advertising is widely seen as an 'off-topic' intrusion into the discussions of any particular
> newsgroup (newsgroup is the Usenet word for discussion group or bulletin board). Each newsgroup
> has a specific set of subjects it is intended to cover, and in order for newsgroups to function as
> effective discussion forums, it is important that people stay 'on-topic'. If everyone - even a
> meager 10% of newsgroup posters - disregarded the particular topics each newsgroup is intended to
> cover and simply posted whatever they wanted wherever they want, the entire system would break
> down into chaos and meaninglessness.
>
> Due to the decentralized nature of Usenet, there is no one person or body which can "enforce" the
> custom of staying on-topic. It falls on each user to help preserve the culture of open discussion
> and free speech that Usenet has come to embody by not posting off-topic material.
>
> This, of course, includes advertising. Advertising is by far the most pervasive form of off-topic
> posting, and therefore, gets most of the heat.
>
> An analogy
> ----------
> If an analogy will help you to visualize the situation, imagine a meeting at your workplace
> or school.
>
> At this meeting, people are discussing a certain issue -- for example, getting new sidewalks
> installed downtown or getting new schoolbooks for the elementary school, or what to do about the
> new product your company is planning on introducing.
>
> In the midst of the discussions on the new sidewalks or textbooks or product, someone walks into
> the room, interrupts everyone, then reads an advertisement for a local restaurant. He or she then
> leaves without waiting for comment.
>
> Now imagine if this happened over and over again each time your group tried to hold a meeting.
> Every time someone tried to make a point, in walks some other stranger who reads an ad for some
> business that has nothing to do with the subject of the meeting.
>
> It would soon become rather difficult to hold effective meetings, wouldn't it?
>
> Similarly, it's very difficult to keep Usenet newsgroups interesting and useful when people deluge
> newsgroups with advertisements.
>
> How to advertise on Usenet
> --------------------------
> *.forsale and *.marketplace newsgroups
>
> There are many newsgroups directly involved in selling. You can generally spot them by the word
> "forsale" or "marketplace" in their names.
>
> For example, rec.games.board.marketplace is a newsgroup where people post for-sale and want-to-buy
> notices about board games they want to buy or sell.
>
> Similarly, the misc.forsale.* hierarchy is full of newsgroups for buying and selling various
> computers, monitors, printers, devices, and so forth, as well as misc.forsale.non-computer.*, for
> selling stuff.
>
> You can access the FAQ and archives via the Web using these URLs:
>
> http://draco.acs.uci.edu/rbfaq/
> http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/bicycles-faq/top.html
>
>
>

--

Steven L. Sheffield stevens at veloworks dot com veloworks at worldnet dot ay tea tee dot net bellum
pax est libertas seritus est nescio robur est aitch tee tea pea colon [for word] slash [four ward]
slash double-you double-yew double-ewe dot veloworks dot com [four word] slash
 
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Steven L. Sheff

Guest
in article [email protected], Tom Kunich at [email protected] wrote
on 12/31/2002 07:24 AM:

> "Steven L. Sheffield" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<BA368594.1CF02%[email protected]>...
>> Wow! It took about 12 hours for you to get me!
>>
>> Too bad the RBR jersey sold in about 15 minutes after posting ... now I can't keep posting its
>> availability. And based on the number of posts in the thread, RBR/rec.bicycles.racing jerseys are
>> definitely ON topic.
>>
>> So there! Nyah! Neener neener neener!!!! Plblbtpbtbptbbtt....
>
> Ain't it enough that you sold the jersey in 15 minutes?

Nope.

Maybe I'll start posting my ads in r.b.marketplace (which I generally do, and only post here when
something might be of particular interest), and then I'll start posting links to my
r.b.marketplace posts!

I contribute when I have something to contribute; I poke fun when something is poke-fun-worthy; and
I generally keeps FS/FA posts out of r.b.racing. I don't recall Ken complaining when the jersey was
being designed and sales were being solicited originally.

So I included a few extra links to other auctions as well ... shucky-darn. I figured if I'm gonna
generate a FAQ/charter post from Ken P., then I might as well make it worthwhile by including
additional auctions.

Note, that since the RBR jersey sold, there hasn't been another auction posting from me in this
newsgroup, whereas I have posted a couple more times in r.b.marketplace for my various auctions.

> Ken has provided a service to the group for the last 5 years. Somehow he always gets a ration of
> **** about it from the people who are in the least position to complain about him. (With due
> regard that you aren't one of the above.)

Posting the FAQ/charter every time someone posts an ad takes up FAR more bandwidth than the actual
ad. Somehow, I don't find that to be a "service to the group."

--

Steven L. Sheffield stevens at veloworks dot com veloworks at worldnet dot ay tea tee dot net bellum
pax est libertas seritus est nescio robur est aitch tee tea pea colon [for word] slash [four ward]
slash double-you double-yew double-ewe dot veloworks dot com [four word] slash
 
R

Ronde Champ

Guest
"Tom Kunich" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Steven L. Sheffield" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<BA368594.1CF02%[email protected]>...
> > Wow! It took about 12 hours for you to get me!
> >
> > Too bad the RBR jersey sold in about 15 minutes after posting ... now I can't keep posting its
> > availability. And based on the number of posts
in
> > the thread, RBR/rec.bicycles.racing jerseys are definitely ON topic.
> >
> > So there! Nyah! Neener neener neener!!!! Plblbtpbtbptbbtt....
>
> Ain't it enough that you sold the jersey in 15 minutes?
>
> Ken has provided a service to the group for the last 5 years.

Being a douche qualifies as providing a service? If so, I'd say that both you and Kenny should be
complimented for a job well done.

Thanks, Ronde Champ
 
S

Steven L. Sheff

Guest
in article [email protected], Ken Papai at [email protected] wrote on
12/31/2002 10:04 AM:

>>> Ken has provided a service to the group for the last 5 years. Somehow he always gets a ration of
>>> **** about it from the people who are in the least position to complain about him. (With due
>>> regard that you aren't one of the above.)
>>
>>
>> Posting the FAQ/charter every time someone posts an ad takes up FAR more bandwidth than the
>> actual ad. Somehow, I don't find that to be a "service to the group."
>
> Really. Wow.
>
> You have been sleeping in Utah haven't you?!!

Only when I have to ... never know when the LDS boogeymen are gonna jump out from under the bed and
start quoting from the books of Nephi and Moroni.

> There is Steven's Universe and then everyone else's. Steven's NEVER wrong in his. Whereas all
> standup people admit to mistakes perfect people never do.

I'm not perfect, and I do admit to my mistakes ... when I make them.

And in this particular case, the biggest mistake was responding to KP & TK.

BTW, Ken ... you still haven't shown me where you posted the charter in response to any of the posts
in the discussion of the creation of the RBR jersey and/or signing up to buy one ... also off-topic,
according to the charter you insist on posting.

--

Steven L. Sheffield stevens at veloworks dot com veloworks at worldnet dot ay tea tee dot net bellum
pax est libertas seritus est nescio robur est ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee sea aye tee why you ti ay
aitch aitch tee tea pea colon [for word] slash [four ward] slash double-you double-yew double-ewe
dot veloworks dot com [four word] slash
 
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Chris Mitchell

Guest
"ronde champ" escribe:
>
> Perfect people don't make mistakes, dumbass. That's what makes them perfect.
>
> Thanks, Ronde Champ Perfect
>
As ever, perfectly wrong.

Probability of ronde being right: minimal.

Probability of ronde having fun: maximal.

Thus, you are, when summed (bove values combined) somewhat more than average, much kless than
perfect. Perhaps you can join Sharon with your Peter(s), strap-on.

-Chris Mitchell no fan of vacuous ronde
 
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Ken Papai

Guest
"Steven L. Sheffield" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BA383CBA.1D215%[email protected]...
> in article [email protected], Ken Papai at [email protected] wrote on 12/31/2002
> 10:04 AM:
>
> >>> Ken has provided a service to the group for the last 5 years. Somehow he always gets a ration
> >>> of **** about it from the people who are in the least position to complain about him. (With
> >>> due regard that you aren't one of the above.)
> >>
> >>
> >> Posting the FAQ/charter every time someone posts an ad takes up FAR
more
> >> bandwidth than the actual ad. Somehow, I don't find that to be a
"service
> >> to the group."
> >
> > Really. Wow.
> >
> > You have been sleeping in Utah haven't you?!!
>
> Only when I have to ... never know when the LDS boogeymen are gonna jump
out
> from under the bed and start quoting from the books of Nephi and Moroni.
>
>
> > There is Steven's Universe and then everyone else's. Steven's NEVER wrong in his. Whereas all
> > standup people admit to mistakes perfect people never do.
>
>
> I'm not perfect, and I do admit to my mistakes ... when I make them. And in this particular case,
> the biggest mistake was responding to KP &
TK.
> BTW, Ken ... you still haven't shown me where you posted the charter in response to any of the
> posts in the discussion of the creation of the RBR jersey and/or signing up to buy one ... also
> off-topic, according to the charter you insist on posting.

Dear Steven -- discussing of, and making available for sale of, a special RBR Jersey is 100% within
the loose guidelines of RBR. I am surprised you're the only one who doesn't get it on that point.

-Ken
 
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Tim Mullin

Guest
"Ken Papai" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...

> Dear Steven -- discussing of, and making available for sale of, a special RBR Jersey is 100%
> within the loose guidelines of RBR. I am surprised you're the only one who doesn't get it on
> that point.

He's not the only one. I don't get it either. If the sale of the rbr jersey is appropriate, why
isn't the reselling of it not? Seriously....I'm not trying to be a **** here. Honestly, I can't see
the difference. In both cases the rbr jersey is for sale, right? Now, if you want to hammer him for
posting links to the other jerseys, that I understand.
 
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Ken Papai

Guest
" Tim Mullin" <[email protected]
>
> "Ken Papai" <[email protected]@rwcrnsc53...
>
> > Dear Steven -- discussing of, and making available for sale of, a special RBR Jersey is 100%
> > within the loose guidelines of RBR. I am surprised you're the only one who doesn't get it on
> > that point.
>
> He's not the only one. I don't get it either. If the sale of the rbr
jersey
> is appropriate, why isn't the reselling of it not? Seriously....I'm not trying to be a **** here.
> Honestly, I can't see the difference. In both cases the rbr jersey is for sale, right? Now, if you
> want to hammer him
for
> posting links to the other jerseys, that I understand.

Heck the reselling (regifting perhaps) of an RBR jersey is nearly perfectly fine here.

But 10 other non RBR jersies?

We need an impartial judge to rule here.

HAPPY NEW YEAR!
 
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Steve

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On 1/1/03 1:05 PM, in article [email protected], "Ken Papai"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
> " Tim Mullin" <[email protected]
>>
>> "Ken Papai" <[email protected]@rwcrnsc53...
>>
>>> Dear Steven -- discussing of, and making available for sale of, a special RBR Jersey is 100%
>>> within the loose guidelines of RBR. I am surprised you're the only one who doesn't get it on
>>> that point.
>>
>> He's not the only one. I don't get it either. If the sale of the rbr
> jersey
>> is appropriate, why isn't the reselling of it not? Seriously....I'm not trying to be a **** here.
>> Honestly, I can't see the difference. In both cases the rbr jersey is for sale, right? Now, if
>> you want to hammer him
> for
>> posting links to the other jerseys, that I understand.
>
> Heck the reselling (regifting perhaps) of an RBR jersey is nearly perfectly fine here.
>
> But 10 other non RBR jersies?
>
> We need an impartial judge to rule here.

Who cares........ <--- impartial
>
>
> HAPPY NEW YEAR!
 
K

Ken Papai

Guest
"Steve" <[email protected]> wrote

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> [email protected], "Ken Papai"
>
> >
> > " Tim Mullin" <[email protected]
> >>
> >> "Ken Papai" <[email protected]@rwcrnsc53...
> >>
> >>> Dear Steven -- discussing of, and making available for sale of, a special RBR Jersey is 100%
> >>> within the loose guidelines of RBR. I am surprised you're the only one who doesn't get it on
> >>> that point.
> >>
> >> He's not the only one. I don't get it either. If the sale of the rbr
> > jersey
> >> is appropriate, why isn't the reselling of it not? Seriously....I'm not trying to be a ****
> >> here. Honestly, I can't see the difference. In both cases the rbr jersey is for sale, right?
> >> Now, if you want to hammer him
> > for
> >> posting links to the other jerseys, that I understand.
> >
> > Heck the reselling (regifting perhaps) of an RBR jersey is nearly perfectly fine here.
> >
> > But 10 other non RBR jersies?
> >
> > We need an impartial judge to rule here.

Didn't turdina judge a wet t-shirt contest at a fat farm once?

> Who cares........ <--- impartial

Don't you have a thing for parrots and unoriginality?

> >
> >
> > HAPPY NEW YEAR!
 
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