Faulty Campagnola Record ErgoPower Lever?

[Simon Fisher]

One of my girlfriend's bikes has Campag Record ErgoPower Levers. The bike
was custom built new in 2002 so I guess the levers are of that year.

The left lever operates the front mech over a triple chainring set. It's
suddenly developed a fault whereby it fails to hold the mech over the
larger/outer rings. It seems as if something in the lever has failed as
pulling the gear cable away from downtube to create tension in the wire
causes the inards of the lever to move (slip) rather than moving the mech.

I haven't done any further investigation of the lever yet. Can anyone
comment as to whether this is likely to be a fault that I can repair - are
spares likely to be available? Or is it the case that a new lever will be
required?

 

[Simon Brooke]

in message <[email protected]>, Simon Fisher
('[email protected]') wrote:

> One of my girlfriend's bikes has Campag Record ErgoPower Levers. The
> bike was custom built new in 2002 so I guess the levers are of that
> year.
>
> The left lever operates the front mech over a triple chainring set.
> It's suddenly developed a fault whereby it fails to hold the mech over
> the larger/outer rings.

I've seen that recently (on 8-speed Chorus, but what the heck).
Fortunately it was easy to fix: there are two little springs on page no
31 of <URL:http://www.campagnolo.com/pdf/spares02_A.pdf>
part number EC-RE209. The teeth on the indexing wheel (EC-314 on the same
diagram) looked rounded on the one I disassembled and I though that was
the problem, but the guy at Campag said 'no, it'll be the springs', and
he was right. Disassembly and reassembly were a bit fiddly but not
impossible. Do it in a clean environment. The springs came from Campag
directly and if I recall correctly were about a fiver for four.

> It seems as if something in the lever has
> failed as pulling the gear cable away from downtube to create tension
> in the wire causes the inards of the lever to move (slip) rather than
> moving the mech.

Yup. Exactly the symptom with the one I stripped. If you have any
difficulty I still have the instructions in the workshop.

> I haven't done any further investigation of the lever yet. Can anyone
> comment as to whether this is likely to be a fault that I can repair -
> are spares likely to be available?

It's Campag. The bits are /always/ available.

> Or is it the case that a new lever
> will be required?

No, only if Shimano.

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[Pete Biggs]

Simon Brooke wrote:

> there are two little springs on page
> no 31 of <URL:http://www.campagnolo.com/pdf/spares02_A.pdf>
> part number EC-RE209.

For Simon F, part number for LEFT-hand lever springs is: EC-RE210.

~PB

 

[Pete Biggs]

Simon Fisher wrote:
> One of my girlfriend's bikes has Campag Record ErgoPower Levers. The
> bike was custom built new in 2002 so I guess the levers are of that
> year.
>
> The left lever operates the front mech over a triple chainring set.
> It's suddenly developed a fault whereby it fails to hold the mech
> over the larger/outer rings. It seems as if something in the lever
> has failed as pulling the gear cable away from downtube to create
> tension in the wire causes the inards of the lever to move (slip)
> rather than moving the mech.
>
> I haven't done any further investigation of the lever yet. Can anyone
> comment as to whether this is likely to be a fault that I can repair
> - are spares likely to be available? Or is it the case that a new
> lever will be required?

Ergo will be faulty also if the "clicks" have turned to mush. Usually
it's the indexing springs (EC-RE210), sometimes the spring carrier
(EC-RE112).

Spares and services from: www.italiancycleproducts.co.uk

Soem spares also from www.parker-international.co.uk

Instructions: http://www.velonews.com/tech/rev/levers.html

* Not always strictly necessary to remove brake lever blade.
* Thumb lever return spring (EC-RE116) is easily damaged in the process so
have a spare one ready.
* Trickiest bit is final reassembly whilst maintaining correct coil spring
tension. I've not really got the hang of this yet so find it a nightmare.

~PB

 

[Pete Whelan]

Simon Fisher wrote:
> One of my girlfriend's bikes has Campag Record ErgoPower Levers. The bike
> was custom built new in 2002 so I guess the levers are of that year.

Record egro levers - .... nice girlfriend




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[Simon Brooke]

in message <[email protected]>, Pete Biggs
('[email protected]') wrote:

> Simon Brooke wrote:
>
>> there are two little springs on page
>> no 31 of <URL:http://www.campagnolo.com/pdf/spares02_A.pdf>
>> part number EC-RE209.
>
> For Simon F, part number for LEFT-hand lever springs is: EC-RE210.

Whoops! Sorry, posting too late at night.

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[Chris Gerhard]

Pete Biggs wrote:
> Simon Fisher wrote:
>> One of my girlfriend's bikes has Campag Record ErgoPower Levers. The
>> bike was custom built new in 2002 so I guess the levers are of that
>> year.
>>
>> The left lever operates the front mech over a triple chainring set.
>> It's suddenly developed a fault whereby it fails to hold the mech
>> over the larger/outer rings. It seems as if something in the lever
>> has failed as pulling the gear cable away from downtube to create
>> tension in the wire causes the inards of the lever to move (slip)
>> rather than moving the mech.
>>
>> I haven't done any further investigation of the lever yet. Can anyone
>> comment as to whether this is likely to be a fault that I can repair
>> - are spares likely to be available? Or is it the case that a new
>> lever will be required?
>
> Ergo will be faulty also if the "clicks" have turned to mush. Usually
> it's the indexing springs (EC-RE210), sometimes the spring carrier
> (EC-RE112).
>
> Spares and services from: www.italiancycleproducts.co.uk
>
> Soem spares also from www.parker-international.co.uk

Deeside cycles were able to get spares for me no problem. Parker were
less helpful, ie did not reply to email.

>
> Instructions: http://www.velonews.com/tech/rev/levers.html
>
> * Not always strictly necessary to remove brake lever blade.
> * Thumb lever return spring (EC-RE116) is easily damaged in the process so
> have a spare one ready.
> * Trickiest bit is final reassembly whilst maintaining correct coil spring
> tension. I've not really got the hang of this yet so find it a nightmare.
>

My top tip for reassembly is shown in the photo on my blog, note the
lever blade is not removed:

http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/chrisg?anchor=an_afternoon_of_entertainment

Odd that it is one year and one day since I did this and the lever is
still working perfectly. I not had to do the left lever yet.

--chris

 

[Arthur Clune]

Simon Fisher <[email protected]> wrote:

> I haven't done any further investigation of the lever yet. Can anyone
> comment as to whether this is likely to be a fault that I can repair - are
> spares likely to be available? Or is it the case that a new lever will be
> required?

Just to add to all the other excellent advice you've had: if you don't
fancy doing this yourself, either Mercian or Italian Cycle Products will
do it for you.

Arthur

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[Pete Biggs]

Chris Gerhard wrote:

>
http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/chrisg?anchor=an_afternoon_of_entertainme
nt

Thanks Chris. I'll be trying your allen-key-in-vice method next time, not
that I hope there is a next time.

~PB

 

[Simon Fisher]

Thanks to everyone for their advice and information. The levers are on their
way to Italian Cycle Products in Derby (www.italiancycleproducts.co.uk) who
are going to carry out the service and repair for me. After reading various
comments about disassembly and reassembly of the levers, I decided I'd
rather pay someone else to do it.