FIR Rims?



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Bow

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Has anyone had any experience with FIR rims? The model I am looking at
buying is the SRG 30 aero profile 28 spoke.

Thanks

Bow
 
"Bow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Has anyone had any experience with FIR rims? The model I am looking at
> buying is the SRG 30 aero profile 28 spoke.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bow
>

I had a pair made up a couple of years back(32 spoke bright gold finish).
I experienced cracking around all the rear drive side spokes so took the
wheel back and had the rim replaced for free.
A couple of weeks later I hit a pothole and destroyed the new rim.
I don't use the rear wheel now and the front wheel, which is fine, is in the
garage. (would you like to buy it?;))

Personally I don't think the rim is any better or worse than Australian made
velocity deep V rims, which you should be able to find cheaper.

Peter
 
On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 16:07:12 +1000, "Bow" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Has anyone had any experience with FIR rims? The model I am looking at
>buying is the SRG 30 aero profile 28 spoke.


MAPLE or SPRUCE may be stronger.
--
Rick Onanian
 
"Peter Vesel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Bow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:sx5Hc.18501$%[email protected]...
> > Has anyone had any experience with FIR rims? The model I am looking at
> > buying is the SRG 30 aero profile 28 spoke.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Bow
> >

> I had a pair made up a couple of years back(32 spoke bright gold finish).
> I experienced cracking around all the rear drive side spokes so took the
> wheel back and had the rim replaced for free.
> A couple of weeks later I hit a pothole and destroyed the new rim.
> I don't use the rear wheel now and the front wheel, which is fine, is in

the
> garage. (would you like to buy it?;))
>
> Personally I don't think the rim is any better or worse than Australian

made
> velocity deep V rims, which you should be able to find cheaper.


And drilled any way you can think of.

>
> Peter
>
>
 
"Bow" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<sx5Hc.18501$%[email protected]>...
> Has anyone had any experience with FIR rims? The model I am looking at
> buying is the SRG 30 aero profile 28 spoke.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bow


I've used FIR on road and off over the years and have always had good
luck with them.
Karl
 
Bow wrote:
> Has anyone had any experience with FIR rims?


They used to have those before they started using metal... the younger
generation here will remember "Oregon Trail" and all the broken yokes,
tongues, axles, and wheels... wood (and thus, FIR) just wasn't reliable!
Can't imagine why you'd put one on a bike in this day and age...

--
Phil, Squid-in-Training (where's Sorni when you need him?)
 
On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 17:57:24 -0400, "ZeeExSixAre"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>They used to have those before they started using metal... the younger
>generation here will remember "Oregon Trail" and all the broken yokes,
>tongues, axles, and wheels... wood (and thus, FIR) just wasn't reliable!


Played it on an Apple IIe. Later bought it for Apple IIgs and PC,
and still have the DOS version around somewhere (probably on 5.25"
disks).

>Can't imagine why you'd put one on a bike in this day and age...


Me neither. Kiln-dried spruce is stronger.

>Phil, Squid-in-Training (where's Sorni when you need him?)


Boycotting this thread?
--
Rick "Sore-knee from changing fir wheel" Onanian
 
Rick Onanian wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 17:57:24 -0400, "ZeeExSixAre"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> They used to have those before they started using metal... the
>> younger generation here will remember "Oregon Trail" and all the
>> broken yokes, tongues, axles, and wheels... wood (and thus, FIR)
>> just wasn't reliable!

>
> Played it on an Apple IIe. Later bought it for Apple IIgs and PC,
> and still have the DOS version around somewhere (probably on 5.25"
> disks).
>
>> Can't imagine why you'd put one on a bike in this day and age...

>
> Me neither. Kiln-dried spruce is stronger.
>
>> Phil, Squid-in-Training (where's Sorni when you need him?)

>
> Boycotting this thread?


My mouse finger was itchy, and now I know why! (Didn't notice my name first
time, as newsreader sorta "dims" sigs and the Squid's remark was thus
treated...uh, thusly.)

Bill "FIR rims: soft ride, but the protesters throwing buckets of blood on
you gets rather old" S.
 
Rick Onanian wrote:

> On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 16:07:12 +1000, "Bow" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>Has anyone had any experience with FIR rims? The model I am looking at
>>buying is the SRG 30 aero profile 28 spoke.

>
>
> MAPLE or SPRUCE may be stronger.


How wood you know?

--
Tom Sherman – Quad City Area
 
Tom Sherman wrote:
> Rick Onanian wrote:


>> MAPLE or SPRUCE may be stronger.

>
> How wood you know?


That should finish this.

Bill "going against the grain" S.
 
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 22:30:51 -0500, Tom Sherman
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> MAPLE or SPRUCE may be stronger.

>
>How wood you know?


I'm in the construction business, so I mite (is that the best I can
come up with?) know this sort of stuff.

Er, seriously, engineers insist that kiln dried spruce is stronger,
but it sure is brittle. IME, hem fir has proven itself to be much
tougher, and I've yet to load KD spruce in any direction where it's
stronger than hem fir.

I hope you aren't board (hah! better...) of my lumbering (woo hoo!)
prose.
--
Rick Onanian
 
Rick Onanian wrote:

> On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 22:30:51 -0500, Tom Sherman
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>MAPLE or SPRUCE may be stronger.

>>
>>How wood you know?

>
>
> I'm in the construction business, so I mite (is that the best I can
> come up with?) know this sort of stuff.
>
> Er, seriously, engineers insist that kiln dried spruce is stronger,
> but it sure is brittle....


Loaded longitudinally, tangentially, or radial to the grain?

--
Tom Sherman – Quad City Area
 
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 19:51:23 -0500, Tom Sherman
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> Er, seriously, engineers insist that kiln dried spruce is stronger,
>> but it sure is brittle....

>
>Loaded longitudinally, tangentially, or radial to the grain?


In my experience, all of the above, in compression, stretch, span,
beam, whatever types of loads. I've just not had a real-world
experience where KD spruce has survived more load than hem fir.

All combinations of the above loads do happen, between cutting,
nailing, screwing, loading, removing, breaking, and all the other
things you do with wood. I've used both species as parts of walls,
staging, makeshift tools, pavement protection under heavy/sharp
stuff, tables, and as ultra-rough-service boxes.
--
Rick Onanian
 
What have I started? I'm sorry I asked ;-)

B

"Rick Onanian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 19:51:23 -0500, Tom Sherman
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Er, seriously, engineers insist that kiln dried spruce is stronger,
> >> but it sure is brittle....

> >
> >Loaded longitudinally, tangentially, or radial to the grain?

>
> In my experience, all of the above, in compression, stretch, span,
> beam, whatever types of loads. I've just not had a real-world
> experience where KD spruce has survived more load than hem fir.
>
> All combinations of the above loads do happen, between cutting,
> nailing, screwing, loading, removing, breaking, and all the other
> things you do with wood. I've used both species as parts of walls,
> staging, makeshift tools, pavement protection under heavy/sharp
> stuff, tables, and as ultra-rough-service boxes.
> --
> Rick Onanian
 
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:27:29 -0400, Rick Onanian <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Er, seriously, engineers insist that kiln dried spruce is stronger,
>but it sure is brittle. IME, hem fir has proven itself to be much
>tougher, and I've yet to load KD spruce in any direction where it's
>stronger than hem fir.


OTOH, bamboo really has been used, especially for track. Evidently
someone decided then to try to make bamboo bikes, but those didn't
work out so well.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...