Hello All,
Sorry for the long winded post but wanted to give as much info as possible:
backstory is that when I was a kid I really wanted and got a mountain bike that I was pretty happy with, it was a Schwinn Cimarron, however my parents were both close to or north of 6ft and since they were buying the bike they went with the old he will grow into it logic, that never happened and I ended up with a massive bike that didn't ever seem right for my 5' 8" height with 26" inseam...sold that on craigs list after having not used it for a few decades and now am looking for something new.
I was primarily looking at either a Giant or a Specialized hybrid and I visited four local shops, really I only count it as three as I didn't get help in the fourth.
The first was the Giant reseller where they had me try an Escape, Cannondale Quick, and then a Smaller Womans variant of the Roam (as I was most interested in that bike and they didn't have one in stock), the sales person was pretty instant that not only did I not need a bike like the Roam and the Escape was actually what I needed, but also that I am a size "medium", he didn't do much to determine that other than have me stand over the bike and look for like a second, and I was quite literally hitting the top tube with my crotch.
I then went to a second dealer who sold Trek and Specialized, I really liked the Crosstrail Disc, its about what I wanted to spend, looked nice, and felt light enough for what I was looking for and seemed like my old Cimarron in style. They had two medium models out on the floor.
The sales person had me stand over the bike, sit on the bike, looked at my shoulders, my leg travel, and a few other things, and according to him I was more than likely a small, the medium he said was a concern as while it fit when I was sitting on it, the top tube was like right up in my crotch and he would rather compromise with a smaller frame than risk it being too large.
I didn't bother test riding it and they didn't have a small in stock, they had me stand over another small and try that but it was a mountain bike with what seemed like a totally different frame.
I finally went to a third dealer that was recommended by a co worker who had the small in stock however when I went there and asked to ride it the salesperson was pretty insistent that I was definitely a medium, he went to their stock area to get one so I could ride it and while he was away I tried the small as I found it on their showroom floor and it felt a bit better when standing over it, though I never got to ride it.
He brought the medium Crosstrail standard out, not the disc (don't think that matters as brakes are only difference), and had me stand over it at which point he was like "wow so you're right on top of that bar huh?" and then he said ok well get on the pedals and then had me do the whole back peddle routine etc, and then asked if I wanted to take it out for a test (which I did) however I noticed that the tires were low on air (he said he would fill them but never did)
I took the bike out with low tires and when riding it things were ok, however when I had to stop and dismount I had memories of the old bike that was way too large as I felt like I had little control and would fall over.
Finally I went back to the second dealer, found a different sales person cause the first was busy and I wanted to just test ride the medium crosstrail disc and then just going to buy it as I liked the bike and so far two people have told me I am definitely a medium, I asked to test ride the medium and he looked at me and said that he wasn't sure it would be right for me, he had me take the bike down to a level part of the store floor and repeat the same drill that the first guy did but added having me stand over the bike and try to pick it up off the floor which I could not as the top tube was pressed into my crotch, he then told me that while the bike seemed ok while I was on it, if I had to dismount in a hurry or if something happened then I would not be happy as it would equal pain in the groin, he said that I should have some clearance between me and the top tube and he was pretty insistent that he wouldn't sell me the medium but wanted to special order the small.
Ultimately I ordered it, they said that it could take two weeks to ship from California, if it doesn't fit right they said I can get a full refund....but I am still wondering what is the "right" size and am I better off paying one of the shops for a proper sizing by appointment?
I plan on riding mostly for exercise and on weekends if time permits but still want something that feels right so I actually use it.
As I mentioned above I was also interested in the Giant Roam but got kind of turned off of it given how the sales person was pretty sure I didn't need that bike and instead needed an escape which also felt like it didn't fit right/was too big.
Any advice or thoughts would be greatly appreciated
Sorry for the long winded post but wanted to give as much info as possible:
backstory is that when I was a kid I really wanted and got a mountain bike that I was pretty happy with, it was a Schwinn Cimarron, however my parents were both close to or north of 6ft and since they were buying the bike they went with the old he will grow into it logic, that never happened and I ended up with a massive bike that didn't ever seem right for my 5' 8" height with 26" inseam...sold that on craigs list after having not used it for a few decades and now am looking for something new.
I was primarily looking at either a Giant or a Specialized hybrid and I visited four local shops, really I only count it as three as I didn't get help in the fourth.
The first was the Giant reseller where they had me try an Escape, Cannondale Quick, and then a Smaller Womans variant of the Roam (as I was most interested in that bike and they didn't have one in stock), the sales person was pretty instant that not only did I not need a bike like the Roam and the Escape was actually what I needed, but also that I am a size "medium", he didn't do much to determine that other than have me stand over the bike and look for like a second, and I was quite literally hitting the top tube with my crotch.
I then went to a second dealer who sold Trek and Specialized, I really liked the Crosstrail Disc, its about what I wanted to spend, looked nice, and felt light enough for what I was looking for and seemed like my old Cimarron in style. They had two medium models out on the floor.
The sales person had me stand over the bike, sit on the bike, looked at my shoulders, my leg travel, and a few other things, and according to him I was more than likely a small, the medium he said was a concern as while it fit when I was sitting on it, the top tube was like right up in my crotch and he would rather compromise with a smaller frame than risk it being too large.
I didn't bother test riding it and they didn't have a small in stock, they had me stand over another small and try that but it was a mountain bike with what seemed like a totally different frame.
I finally went to a third dealer that was recommended by a co worker who had the small in stock however when I went there and asked to ride it the salesperson was pretty insistent that I was definitely a medium, he went to their stock area to get one so I could ride it and while he was away I tried the small as I found it on their showroom floor and it felt a bit better when standing over it, though I never got to ride it.
He brought the medium Crosstrail standard out, not the disc (don't think that matters as brakes are only difference), and had me stand over it at which point he was like "wow so you're right on top of that bar huh?" and then he said ok well get on the pedals and then had me do the whole back peddle routine etc, and then asked if I wanted to take it out for a test (which I did) however I noticed that the tires were low on air (he said he would fill them but never did)
I took the bike out with low tires and when riding it things were ok, however when I had to stop and dismount I had memories of the old bike that was way too large as I felt like I had little control and would fall over.
Finally I went back to the second dealer, found a different sales person cause the first was busy and I wanted to just test ride the medium crosstrail disc and then just going to buy it as I liked the bike and so far two people have told me I am definitely a medium, I asked to test ride the medium and he looked at me and said that he wasn't sure it would be right for me, he had me take the bike down to a level part of the store floor and repeat the same drill that the first guy did but added having me stand over the bike and try to pick it up off the floor which I could not as the top tube was pressed into my crotch, he then told me that while the bike seemed ok while I was on it, if I had to dismount in a hurry or if something happened then I would not be happy as it would equal pain in the groin, he said that I should have some clearance between me and the top tube and he was pretty insistent that he wouldn't sell me the medium but wanted to special order the small.
Ultimately I ordered it, they said that it could take two weeks to ship from California, if it doesn't fit right they said I can get a full refund....but I am still wondering what is the "right" size and am I better off paying one of the shops for a proper sizing by appointment?
I plan on riding mostly for exercise and on weekends if time permits but still want something that feels right so I actually use it.
As I mentioned above I was also interested in the Giant Roam but got kind of turned off of it given how the sales person was pretty sure I didn't need that bike and instead needed an escape which also felt like it didn't fit right/was too big.
Any advice or thoughts would be greatly appreciated